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    Grey Poupon is not fancy mustard. You can buy that shit in any grocery store, it was developed by food scientists and is mass produced in giant semi-automated factories. It’s also not particularly expensive. If you can only afford yellow mustard but not Grey Poupon you shouldn’t be buying any mustard because your budget is way too tight to be paying for condiments you can get free in a fast food restaurant.

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    Oh yes, the classic “the poor people are secretly happy and that bothers me” argument. It’s like a cat call for stupid people. The whole point of it is to say “you’re not allowed to have anything remotely nice because I consider myself better than you.”

    It’s mental illness made into a political platform.

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      Their position is more accurately something like “If I have to pay for you to have things, you shouldn’t be allowed to have nicer things than I can afford.”

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        Apply that analysis to the mustard argument in the post. It’s ridiculous. Nobody is using food stamps to buy a Porsche. If their life is made a little better because an extra bit of my tax dollars went into fancy mustard I’d consider that nothing short of a bargain.

        That argument is literally gatekeeping fucking mustard. If you can’t spring for the grey poupon then being that much stingier with your taxes is not going to be enough to solve your problem anyways. You just want others to suffer because you suffer, which harkens back to my original point that is mental illness.

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    This is just a totally brain dead take. Maybe the SNAP recipient likes brown mustard and prioritizes it. And you don’t care that much so you don’t prioritize it. If it mattered to you, you would budget to get fancy mustard.

    If you really do feel you can’t afford fancy mustard, you shouldn’t be mad at the person who earns food assistance and then uses it to buy fancy mustard, you should be mad that you aren’t making enough to afford fancy mustard.

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      It’s also like $4 to get a bottle of Gray Poupon, absolutely ridiculous to be trying to whip people into a frenzy over that to begin with.

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        This is not the first time Republicans threw an absolute shit fit over negligibly more expensive mustard…

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          …while blowing hundreds or even thousands of dollars on red hats and overpriced campaign souvenirs.

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          Because in their minds, these people should be suffering more. Government food assistance should take the form of gruel, if it exists at all.

          Edit: Oh I just realized what you were referencing lol

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        that is how conservatives do it, tan suit, hot dog, djoin mustard, sipping from a cup. they always trying to find some thing they can complain about, which is anything.

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      This is just a totally brain dead take.

      Well yeah, they’re complaining about people who receive SNAP benefits, so that’s a given.

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      Theres the rub. The working class and poor have been indoctrinated to believe that they are their own enemies, and the puppet masters that orchestrated all of this class warfare are the rich to keep us busy from chopping their heads off.

      The poor aren’t our enemies. They are the frogs boiling in water that the rich use to determine what they can do to everyone else.

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      Yeah, it’s not like SNAP users get a discount on “fancy” mustard, they just get use their government-given food money to buy whatever kind of food they want instead of the government policing how they are allowed to use their food money.

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    I love the idiocy of the view that the poorest among us are eating like kings for free while we all suffer and toil for peanuts. I mean, how dumb do you have to be? I’ve got a steal of a deal on some property on mars you may be interested in.

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      I have MAGA family. The first thing they always mention about SNAP is how “welfare queens” are gaming the system, even though they were all on food stamps at one point. It’s purely all about racism and punching down. They don’t like the idea of black and brown people eating on “their” taxdollars. However, when my brother was on food stamps, it was out of “necessity” because he relied on SNAP to feed his step children.

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        white people make up the largest block of snap recipients.

        rural white people are represented very large chunk inside that group - I will never understand how trump can continually hurt his own voters (see: closing down hospitals in rural america, increasing the cost of healthcare in rural america etc.,) and still get their support and am left to conclude they’re deranged cultists, and dumb ones at that.

        I’m open to counter examples but at this point… I know one republican, he’s basically an independent now because he’s disgusted by a draft dodging treason buffoon like most sane people should be. The ones holding trump up at this point are either entirely in on the hate (stephen miller, bannon, etc.,) or completely deranged cultists.

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          It’s a cult. My parents became super religious out of nowhere in 2016 began worshiping Trump like he’s a demigod. I regrettedly visited them with a few months ago and now they’re prepping for civil war with “people from the cities”. When mental illness reaches this point of criticality, there’s no point of return. They simply live in a different reality. Voting republican is an existential crisis to them within their Qanon-based media bubble.

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            I’m thankful I don’t have to have these discussions with my dad who passed in 2012; I have a bad feeling he’d be all maga.

            that’s a really tough experience; best luck with the future as the shitshow progresses; it’s so fucked up that these want to be patriots are destroying this country.

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              I’m sorry that you lost your father so long ago :/ However, you do make a solid point. Watching your parents slowly lose their minds might be ultimately more painful in the long run. My parents were always abusive white trash, but now I don’t even recognize them anymore. I guess decades of alcoholism and hatred will do that do to a person…

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        Same, overheard one day they are paying immigrants $3000 a month to not work. Like what in the actual fuck is wrong with these people? That doesn’t hold up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny. But there’s no reasoning with people who lack any form of it.

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          It’s definitely infuriating. Anything is “true” in their land of make believe…

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        That’s how my dad was. He was the one only one who actually needed food stamps; everybody else was cheating the system. As far as I could tell, it wasn’t about race because he’d talk shit about other white people who used food stamps, too.

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    Yellow mustard is not less fancy. It’s yellow because it has turmeric in it. That’s more ingredients and it’s one of those fancy unique spices.

    The reason it’s cheap is because Americans like the flavor of turmeric in their mustard so some companies have made a cheap version of it.

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      Plus, different mustards for different foods. I like a yellow with a lot of things, but on a hotdog is pretty classic. I like a spicy brown mustard with some chicken. And maybe a stoneground for a deli sandwich. Chinese mustard from some restaurants, like with spring rolls, is also quite the treat at times, if you like the spice level! I’m hungry.

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      Dijon mustard is yellow? Isn’t it not only the classic mustard but also (if it’s made as it should, anyone can make “Dijon mustard” IIRC) made without any special additives?

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        Sorry, maybe my post was confusing. Dijon is the one that doesn’t have turmeric and isn’t yellow, the bright yellow ballpark mustard does.

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            Oh I see, sorry I agree most mustard is a little yellow. I was just contrasting it to ballpark mustard yeah.

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    His supermarket probably has house brands of spicy brown and Dijon mustards. They will taste no different. It’s not like Ketchup where only one company knows how to make it.

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      Consider that this person is the type to be actively funding the Nazi platform.

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        Yes the people with blue checkmarks are funding Nazis, but the dude pointing out the cost of mustard could also just fucking leave that shithole and leave it to rot. Same with anyone else left on there that doesn’t want to support Nazis.

        Just fucking leave the platform.

        Kill off whitepeopletwitter already.

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    “poor people shouldn’t be able to afford food because I’m irresponsible with my money”

    … That’s what this sounds like.

    If you’re not “poor enough” to need snap, and you can’t afford to buy whatever food you want, within reason, then either, you need snap and you’re in denial, or you need to learn money management.

    Snap recipients are forced to spend the money on food, since that’s the only place that money can be spent AFAIK… So they’re forced to be responsible with their food money. They can’t use the funds to get drunk at the pub and stumble down the street picking fights and ending up in the drunk tank.

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      If you’re not “poor enough” to need snap, and you can’t afford to buy whatever food you want, within reason, then either, you need snap and you’re in denial, or you need to learn money management.

      There are breakpoints where earning slightly more money can cost you more benefits than you gained in pay. I could also totally see someone being in that range where they’re only a little out of range for SNAP and as such have to eat on their own income while someone earning a bit less gets supplemented to a higher total budget than they have.

      Snap recipients are forced to spend the money on food, since that’s the only place that money can be spent AFAIK…

      I mean without doing shady shit, yeah. But then in lots of places there are known and routinely practiced ways to launder SNAP into cash. One that was popular here for a time a while back was a convenience store that would buy cases of canned soda of specific kinds from anyone who came in with them for less than wholesale price. People on SNAP who wanted to launder it into cash would go somewhere like Wal-Mart, buy cases, go to this store and resell them at a loss to get cash while the store stocks shelves at a discount.

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        Laundering snap into cash seems like an enforcement problem.

        But then again, we don’t want more cops… So I’m a bit split on it.

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    Whole discussion is about " I can only afford 1/3 price generic mustard, but SNAP recipients are spoiled"

    SNAP funds can also be used to buy cheap mustard to stetch limited SNAP budget.

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    It’s so weird seeing that sunshine account when our local sunshine lemming is the opposite.

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    They charge for the blue checkmarks? And…people do it? I haven’t had xitter since years before nazi boy bought it.

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      Yes, it was one of the more contreversial changes he did. Before, you had to be “vetted” by xitter staff as being both notable and who you said you were. That wasn’t a great system, and was effectively a nepotism/who you knew game, but you wouldn’t see blue checkmarks for fake accounts.

      It used to be a sign of trustworthiness.

      Now anyone can get one for a monthly fee.

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        what I find shocking is that the website still exists and has so many users; I even know a user IRL who hasn’t noticed it has gotten any worse since Elon took over …

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          It’s not for no reason, it allows longer posts, increases visibility and is required to monetize your account. If you care about any of those things (I don’t) you might consider paying for a blue check (I don’t). I’m definitely not the target market.

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        Before, you had to be “vetted” by xitter staff as being both notable and who you said you were.

        This made me think of an easy-ish way to do it for the fediverse:

        1. You must have a Wikidata page, with at least one Wikipedia page associated with that Wikidata page
        2. On the Wikidata page, you must have a P4033 property with that account
        3. Add some ActivityPub metadata for “Account owner’s Wikidata Item”
        4. When there’s a two way correspondance (Fediverse Account <-> Wikidata entry), show a Wikipedia logo which brings you to the corresponding Wikipedia article about the person.
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      Unpopular opinion but I think the blue checkmark as a way to show that you support the platform isn’t a bad idea, that it replaced a verification system was the actual issue.

      Voyager shows usernames in purple when they are a contributor to their app.

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        the blue checkmark as a way to show that you support the platform isn’t a bad idea

        The premise of how it works is fine, it’s the supporting the platform part that’s the problem