Fair enough. Have a good day friend.

I get it, but MacOS is UNIX which is arguably just as complex, and that shit is far from niche or obscure.

The main difference is that MacOS is unified in its construction and Linux is fractured by design. If Linux can put everything together in a seamless and unified way, even if it’s not seamless under the hood, then we’ll be a lot closer to big OEMs putting out systems with Linux pre-installed.

If OEM systems with Linux pre-installed start appearing on shelves next to Windows systems and Macs at best buy, then it’s actually possible it would happen. But the Linux community needs to do what they can to build, test, and deliver, some kind of front end that gives the end user that polished experience, that for anything that a user wants to do, there’s a knob to do that with which doesn’t require dropping into a config file or to the command line.

I’m not going to delude myself or anyone else, while a lot of this is easy to say, the challenges are immense, and some organizations have been trying to accomplish this for many many years. Linux has come a lot way, but it’s not quite where it needs to be yet, in order for it to happen.

I work in IT for businesses and the number of times I’ve had to debunk AI slop hallucinations as actual troubleshooting information is not zero.

“Yes, I can see the instructions say to check that checkbox, however, that checkbox does not exist” (screenshot of relevant control panel).

This is just evidence, to me, that business types are already relying on AI instead of doing any actual thought or research on any topic they don’t already have a deep understanding of, or are too lazy to bother with.

Consumers are not driving this change.

The worst part is that it’s an echo chamber of yes-men that seem to be pushing for it. The AI enthusiasts trying to sell their crap, convincing the middle managers that they need their AI crap, and them buying it and asking for more/better AI crap, and the cycle continues. At no point does any of the output of any AI system provide any unique insight, or value, to anyone. The rest of us are being dragged along for the ride, regardless of what we want.

Well, I didn’t lift it from anywhere. So, I guess there’s dozens of us?

I work in IT. IMO, the civilian population moving to Linux is inevitable. As Linux finds itself and good ways to do things that don’t require people to know bash, or customize options by manually editing config files, things will push that way.

IMO, it will happen, but not quite yet. We’re seeing the initial push of the privacy conscious and those that want to avoid becoming a product. It’s good, but we’re not there yet. We’re also seeing some pretty major players, most notably valve, pushing for consumer goods that are unashamedly Linux under the hood. This is, slowly but surely, pushing forward compatibility for apps running on Linux.

We probably won’t see any line of business apps adopting a Linux build any time soon, and business in general actually wants the majority of what Microsoft is pushing for… Along with government institutions (for their own needs), and more. I don’t see business moving towards Linux anytime soon… Not beyond it’s current role in server operations.

As stuff like steamOS get better and better, and find ways to solve problems in consumer friendly ways, that knowledge will feed back into existing Linux tools. We’ll get to a point where Linux will be as plug and play as Windows, and that’s when we actually have a good chance of migrating a lot of personal PCs to Linux.

The Battle for the workplace is still a long way out. Well after the Linux home PC is commonplace. People at the office will simply have more experience with Linux, and push for being able to use Linux at work and eventually that’s going to start to happen… Probably not in our lifetimes.

To me, it’s only a matter of time. Unless Linux undergoes a hostile takeover and unforeseen bullshit happens, it will happen.

I’m sure some people exist with little to no stress.

They’re probably independently wealthy.

Who says I’m upset?

You’re the one who is butthurt because you don’t think that valve did good enough by your standards.

The flaw in your comparison, especially with any wired controllers is that they basically didn’t have firmware. At all.

Meanwhile, the og steam controller didn’t even have an associated console.

So the comparison I’m going to draw from this, since people update their computers… Is that it’s a bit like asking Xbox 360 controllers to interoperate with the Xbox series x…

The controller gets left behind while the hardware it is supposed to attach to, morphs into something entirely different.

I don’t see PlayStation controller ports (from the og PlayStation era) on PS4s. So why are we bitching about steam controllers when Sony won’t continue to support the og PlayStation controllers on the PS4…

The fuck are we even talking about anymore?

Can you hear yourself?

You mean the one that was released in 2015, and they stopped selling in 2019, then continued to support for at least four more years?

That’s the one?

And we compare that to what? Can I get support on my Xbox 360 wireless controllers still? How about my dual shock controller for a PS3? Google surely still updates the stadia controller, right? They didn’t give up on it less than a year after the stadia service was taken down… Right?

With the exception of maybe 8bitdo or something, their support for that controller was extremely good, and the fact that they made it 10 years ago, and stopped selling it 6 years ago, but only stopped supporting it 2 years ago, that’s pretty good, IMO.

Exactly right. And this is driving my point. There are options. If you don’t like one option, try something else.

Pretty much every controller design has positives and negatives that change depending on who is using the controller. I enjoy the xbox one/series controllers for the most part, and they’re fairly reliable and my usual go to. I also have a dual shock somewhere that I don’t really use, and a stadia controller that was patched to work with anything, which gets more action than the dual shock, but not nearly as much as the Xbox controllers.

I usually play with kb/mouse, so controllers are already pretty rare in my gaming experience, but they make an appearance from time to time.

With these new steam controllers, I might see a good reason to use a controller more frequently… Especially if I can afford the $900+ that the steam machine will probably cost… They said it would be “competitively” priced in relation to PCs, not consoles. So I’m expecting $900+ right now. Time to start saving.

I would argue that, as long as valve gets it out the door, they support it. Index owners are still supported and that’s from a headset released in 2019. The oculus rift CV1 released in 2016 and it was killed around 2020 when oculus was purchased by Meta. Four years, and the headset is basically a paperweight for anyone who still owns one. A $600 USD paperweight.

Considering that the connection cable was the first thing to die and in 2020 meta stopped selling those cables, anyone I know who had one, including myself, either stopped using it, or was forced to stop when their cable inevitably broke.

There’s a dozen examples. The og steam controller, the steam link, and more recently the steam deck, which is still going strong.

Yes, they have issues getting ideas out the door, but when they get out the door, they’re supported for a good long while.

These don’t look like “we have an idea to build a thing” that will never make it to market… This looks like “we finally got a delivery date for these finished units and we’re excited about it”

I’m looking forward to it, no matter what. Valve has time and time again proven itself to be more consumer focused than other tech companies. More from them is good IMO.

That’s a big challenge, but a worthwhile one. The reason that Microsoft exploded in the DOS era was because it ran on everything that was “IBM compatible” aka x86. Meanwhile Apple was over there with a competitive product, but you could only run the software on their OS that ran in their hardware. People were able to get cheap third party x86 compatible computers and run MS-DOS (and later Windows), and they were not locked into a specific vendor doing top to bottom hardware/software support.

If they do this right, they’ll be the go to option for a lot of people who generally use their PC primarily for gaming.

As someone with hands on the larger side, small controllers suck for us too.

The point you should be focused on is having a diversity in controller options, not that any one controller is good/bad.

It is entirely subjective to say the controller is good. Your definition of good won’t be my definition of good. Your taste and opinion is just as valid as mine, and I don’t impose my preferences on you.

I don’t know how big that controller is, since no banana was provided for scale. It could be huge and unwieldy, or it could be very tiny. One size never fits all.

At the end of the day, if you don’t like it, don’t buy it, and/or don’t use it. This is +1 option in the controller space, and that kind of competition is good no matter what opinion you have.

I get all of the comments here. I understand the anger and distain that so many of you are feeling over the current state of things. I share in many of the frustrations and anger.

But it depresses me that Trump won’t run for office again. He will be replaced by someone and the entire pool of former Trumpers will see that person and think that they can do all the things they hoped that Trump would do.

Even if Trump exits office without doing any further significant harm, the people who have made these kinds of revelations, like in the OP, will probably still vote for the same party, in spite of it all. Sure, they may never vote for Trump again, but they’ll never get the chance to anyways, so who cares?

This was calculated.

Don’t be surprised if the next candidate follows the same playbook as Trump, and don’t be surprised if the MAGA crowd falls for it again.

The only way forward, to ensure that this kind of damage is stopped, is to rally together in sufficient numbers to ensure that these folks don’t get into office any more. The absentee voters need to get out and vote.

I am confident that the numbers would work out if we could get enough people to the voting booth.

That’s fair.

Laundering snap into cash seems like an enforcement problem.

But then again, we don’t want more cops… So I’m a bit split on it.

It’s one of those rare 5 cylinder in-line engines with a 3.6L displacement.

Oooooooo

I’m not sure why you haven’t gotten more upvotes.

To bring this full circle. “67” was used in a (semi?) popular song among Gen alpha, and unless they know this factoid, and that “67” is used as slang for the 10-67 police code in Philadelphia, then the placement of “67” in the lyrics of the song seems very odd at least, and completely random at best.

It seems that a nontrivial amount of Gen Alpha humor hinges on randomness, but as far as I’m concerned that’s not exclusive to their generation. My fellow millennials were ROFL-ing to some pretty random stuff in our glory days too, so that part I get. With Gen alpha one noticed that the less of a meaning something seems to have, the more they cling to it, and the funnier it becomes.

6-7 sits in such an obscure part of human knowledge that, until very recently, only a very small group even understood it, even now, I would say that number hasn’t really changed much. And because the meaning of 67 in the original lyric was unknown and presumed to not exist, making the lyric both random and meaningless, it’s become the funniest shit ever for the Gen alpha kids.

Look, anyone from Gen alpha, I love you. You guys keep doing what you’re doing. Let your freak flags fly. Do it while you can. As Baz Luhrmann said: “enjoy the power and beauty of your youth. Nevermind. You will not understand the power and beauty of your youth until they’ve faded. But trust me, in 20 years, you’ll look back on photos of yourself and recall in a way that you can’t grasp now, how much possibility laid before you, and how fabulous you really looked.”

Cheers everyone.

At least someone understands me.

I can explain it better than the people using it right now. 6-7 is a social indicator of being “in” on the joke. It identifies people as part of a generation/movement.

This type of thing isn’t particularly unique. Like with “fuck your couch” it indicates that someone is a part of a social group.

The difference that the other poster is missing, is that, unlike previous stuff, where something like “fuck your couch” (to continue with the same example) has meaning outside of what it’s referencing, aka those are words that mean things, 6-7 doesn’t share the same informational bias.

“I can dig it”, even without knowing the social etymology of the phrase can be interpreted by a layman, more or less, for its relative meaning. Meanwhile 6-7 is impossible to comprehend without knowing what it is referencing.

… It actually comes from Philadelphia slang, but I also wouldn’t expect Gen alpha to know that either.

I hope that’s enough…

Like I said, good luck

“Should” is doing some serious work in your last statement.

As someone with ~72 TB of raw storage… Heh. Good luck.