Trump is probably on the list, so he has to protect that. The Democrats had it during their entire presidency; even if they didn’t want turmoil during their time in office, they could have released it after their presidential defeat and before Trump took office.
As non-American, the reason I think that Democrats didn’t release the list was that not only were some Democrats and their donors on it, they knew that they would be crucified by Republicans and Americans for it. The also knew that at the same time all the Republicans and their donors on the list would be let off because laws, morality, ethics are only ever to be used to oppress the poor and non-whites or to combat Democratic politicians. Do you think Trump would ever have made it to President as a Democrat? There is a reason he switched to become a Republican.
Because Democratic leadership is aware that Republicans aren’t their actual enemies, and a ton of them are also on the list.
The democrats are aware that their names are on the list and they’re the only ones that will be held accountable for it. The republicans will hold witch burnings while completely ignoring their own member’s names on the list.
will be held accountable for it
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The obvious is that Dems are on the list too. Which is undoubtedly true. Even more importantly than that donors. But the fact that Merrick Garland was involved and he’d never to anything to make Trump look bad ever should also be remembered.
For the same reason republicans won’t: They’re on the list, their friends are on the list and their donors are on the list.
The last point is the most important.
The difference is the democrats didn’t campaign on the promise of releasing it. And MAGAs believed him for some weird reason
So? Do you think a politician cares about their campaign promisses, or gets held to them? They very often do the exact opposite of what they promised actually
The point I’m making is Biden never campaigned on releasing the Epstein files. So it shouldn’t be surprising that he protected the people on the list. Trump did and his idiots fully expected him to release the list because he’s an honest person who keeps his promises. Trump knowingly and intentionally got votes from the psycho qanon types who have always believed trump is playing 4D chess.
It’s important to note that the goal posts have moved. Originally people wanted to see the “black book” which may be what the client list has come from. The black book got released and it’s got lots of people in it but it didn’t prove any crimes, only that he associated with them. People kept talking about it and believed it was being kept secret because nothing happens and no one got charged with anything. I believe the “client list” which appears to be a new idea, is directly talking about a list of people who the fbi have information on of committing crimes where Epstein supplied underaged girls to them.
Nobody thinks that. Case in point - Trump is never held to anything he has ever said.
Because Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin?
I assume because there were some high profile dems on the list.
Yup. Everybody’s just going to pretend nothing ever happened and move on.
Just to be clear, that is not what should happen
Even if it comes to light, I have doubts anything will come of it. Look what happened with the Panama papers. Basically only Iceland did anything about it.
Australia acted on it for what it’s worth.
they bombed a reporter over it.
Iceland had the highest profile result so perhaps it may seem that way, but many countries investigated and prosecuted individuals. In addition, it caused the entire global financial system to redouble AML efforts.
probably some hollywood execs, and AIPAC people too.
because includes alot of politicians, donors, and other world leaders, movie executives. just like the panama papers got swept under the carpet, it including tons of rich people.
Gates, musk, trump, hawkings, diddy,etc.
Subsequent to the Panama Papers, there were arrests and financial seizures in many of the named countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers?wprov=sfti1#Recovered_money
Let’s not forget the assassination of one of the reporters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Caruana_Galizia#Death
Because most of their big money donors are also on the list.
If someone hands you $50,000 a year with no questions every year, it’s hard to say no when they squeeze your hand and ask you to reconsider releasing it.
Especially if even if you released it it probably wouldn’t change literally a single thing.
Bill Clinton.
And Bill Gates, probably. I have a feeling that was a reason for Melinda to split because she has never given a straightforward answer. It was just, “Oh, we’re splitting for reasons.”
She just gave an interview where she confirmed Epstein was a major reason for the divorce amongst other reasons. She said she met Epstein one time and had nightmares afterwards.
People just split for irreconcilable differences all the time, they don’t owe the public an explanation.
Except their split happened when it was revealed he was in contact with Epstein. And “differences” is vague enough that not many people care after. Keeping silent isn’t admitting “differences” with a spouse that you’ve been with for years.
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Yeah, but that wouldn’t be news. Same as Trump and Prince Andrew being on it aren’t news. I’m guessing some really popular people are on there. People like Bernie Sanders (I’m NOT saying he’s on there but you get my gist).
You’re right, it’s not news so much as that the Clintons come from an era of politics where merely embarrassing things are still kept on the down-low. Especially considering the continued influence of 1990’s Clinton-era politicking on the Democratic party. Even Obama couldn’t really break that hold, as seen by Hillary being given the Secretary of State position during Obama’s tenure and then running and losing after Obama. There was actually a lot of evidence at the time that the DNC was basically broke and was living off of the generosity of the Clinton foundation. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, chair of the DNC from 2011 to 2016, was literally in Hillary Clinton’s pocket. While Bill Clinton himself is not particularly important as a figure these days, the family influence continues to extend deep into nearly every facet of the Democratic party, and as such, Democrats are unlikely to bite the hands that feed them so to speak.
Its rumored that Epstein was working with Israeli Intelligence so they probably have big files on many prominent Democrats and Republicans which is why everybody talks a big game about releasing the client list (if it exists) but never follows through. Its stuff like this that exposes the real game that both these parties are working together against the American people. The party always comes first.
Pretty sure he was an asset and Ghislaine is the agent. Both based in who’s alive, and whose father’s funeral was attended by multiple former heads of Mossad.
This is the part that should be brought up always. MOSSAD ATTENDED STATE FUNERAL
it’s all a game. They use the vulnerable as currency and bargaining chips. Literal evil.
I’m Commander Shepard and this is my favorite conspiracy on the Citadel.
Simple, they have more to loose than what they stand to gain.
There are almost certainly several high profile democrats on the list, they don’t want to expose themselves so they are blocking the release.
But ok, let’s assume that the list has zero democrats on it, that doesn’t matter at this point, since it will be extremely difficult to find someone who the public can actually trust to give them real unbiased data.
The republicans knows that they can just lie and say that anyone in the democrats is on the list and just about everyone of their supporters will believe them
probably exposes alot of donors/megadonors to congress.
Two sides of the same coin. The Dems claim to protect the underdog, the Reps claim to oppress the underdog. Each identity politics appeals to a different demographic.
The thing that’s the same between them is that they ALWAYS protect capital.
There are probably highly placed people in both parties on the list. Is this saying “SeE, tHeY’rE BoTh ThE sAmE!!!”? No, it’s saying both have bad actors in them. Neither party has a claim to being morally pristine, because that would be stupid and so is insisting that they should.
it’s almost like humans, in general, are huge corrupt pieces of shit when they become wealthy and powerful.
The fallacy of overgeneralization. I’ve never heard of Warren Buffet doing anything malicious, he’s just really good at investing.
- disowned his granddaughter because she was interviewed on a documentary about the wealthy
- propublica published and article pointing out the hypocrisies of his trading ethics and what he publicly states are his ethics
- in 2008 he invested $5bln in Goldman Sachs, the company that is considered ground zero for the 2008 recession
- continues to support and invest in fossil fuels despite the clear evidence of the dangers to our planet
- has been accused of multiple cases of insider trading his entire career
he’s no monster, sure. he’s also no saint either. he’s guilty of being complicit with the current class warfare and division of equality in the world. not only that, he has profited directly by the suffering of people.
to me, that makes him a bad person. I’m sure he’ll lose lots of sleep over that.
He also bought a lot of land and housing with Berkshire, including prefab houses and trailers, taking over poor people properties and making them more expensive
What would they have had to gain? Fox news would just pivot around it and move on. Trump was already a convicted rapist, tons of catholic priests are forgiven among their community for child rape, so it’s not hard to imagine Trump walking away clean from the whole thing.
Meanwhile, dems probably had a couple big donors to lose and possibly a former president. Sounds like a bad trade when the whole party’s MO is to keep their hands clean and never play dirty.
Protecting child rapists is one of the dirtiest play you can play.
Releasing the list, prosecuting the rapists and making this the topic in all interviews going forward to expose every last one of them as well as possible ties to Israeli intelligence, that would be the clean play.
That’s horribly pragmatic but I have to believe there would be at least a couple of politicians who have the most basic of morals that would release it if they got their hands on the info
