“Studies published in the 1990s concluded that D.A.R.E. had little to no effectiveness in preventing drug use in elementary, middle, or high school students, and may actually lead to increased drug use.” https://www.britannica.com/procon/DARE-Drug-Abuse-Resistance-Education-debate
Same thing as Christians and their anti-porn crusade. I got introduced to the concept of porn through church, lmao.
They were daring you to try to beat the stats.
In Canada back in the day cops would come into the classroom. They had big boards with all the drugs attached. More than a few times, they disappeared off the board.
I remember a constable coming to class with one of these and commenting that I had excellent veins should I ever do IV drugs. They 100% set us up to fail.
I have a DARE shirt that says ‘Drugs Are Really Expensive’ underneath and i feel like thats a more effective deterrent than anything they said in the program.
Don’t go get free ebooks on safe platforms like libgen or annas-archive !!
My dad would change the wording of Dare Tshirts with tipp-ex so that “dare to say no to drugs” would instead say “dare to say hi to roger” (in swedish) 😂
They taught us that drugs were evil and done by bad people. The first time I smoked pot, I realized I was lied to and wondered what other drugs were like.
Gatewayed by the marijuanas. We were warned about this, smdh
I’m amused by the one dissenter who downvoted both of us. Hey dissenter: a ton of people agreed with our takes and only you disagreed. This isn’t a forum for you. Go find a place where people share your views.
There was definitely a point in my life that I saw weed users the same as heroin, etc.
I’ve never used either, but thankfully my views have changed anyway. It does show how much harm it causes when your informative spiels get one thing wrong.
In middle school, my health class was all about how in high school, there’d be all these crazy sex and drug fueled parties and one day I turned to my friend and said “I cannot wait for high school”.
Ah yes drugs are bad. Weed kills you, etc.
You find out weed doesn’t do any of the shit they said it did… Now absolutely everything they claimed is called into question. Why would they lie about X but not about Y?
DARE did more to make people learn that police cannot be trusted apart from maybe their general violent tendencies.
DARE should have just told me that pot would just make me really sleepy and make me eat too much… causing an 8 lb weight gain overnight. That would have been enough. They should have avoided telling me anything about speed.
I may be too european, but our one prez was about hard drugs! Half of it was about was a biology lesson about the nucleus accumbens and its deterioration! The other half was safety tips, apparently you can try every hard drug once with exemption to crystal meth without causing permanent damage! I didn’t know that until then, I would have probably never tried morphine once if not for that lesson…
Also didn’t the cia sell drugs? Maybe it really was an advertisement?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking_allegations
According to Tim Weiner, the Central Intelligence Agency “has been accused of forming alliances of convenience with drug traffickers around the world in the name of anti-Communism” since its creation in 1947.
This was part of a more all-encompassing effort to leverage organized crime syndicates and other black market networks as methods of infiltrating, subverting, and ultimately dissolving Soviet Socialist Republics. Because the drug trade was such a lynchpin of the colonial-era plantation movement, you had a lot of anti-communist sympathizers already forced underground in the face of communist revolutions (which also, incidentally, tended to be anti-drug use).
Armies of Nationalist China fled into Thailand Myanmar, and Cambodia to run heroin operations and only significantly influenced the regimes in the region for decades and today.
Weed not actually being dangerous… when you find that out it’s like leaving the Matrix
I mean, I would have appreciated some information about weed influencing my body and brain development before I am ~25. Then I might have waited that time or smoked less. Now I can only imagine if I might have become less of a scatterbrain. Instead I was told that all drugs are bad and they will make me addicted and push me to drug-related crimes, which did not turn out believable enough.
Are you sure you’re not a scatterbrain from undiagnosed ADHD that you’ve been self-medicating with the weed?
I definitely had/have undiagnosed something but I don’t blame the drugs… those came after my lived experience being socially awkward, rocking to soothe myself and mostly daydreaming all day and forgetting homework existed. I can’t imagine what my mother was thinking trying to comb out my rats nest hair in the morning. No wonder she had it cut really short.
regardless, that would not do anything for other people experiencing the general case
That’s not true though.
People really struggle understanding anything else than “it’s horribly deadly” and “it’s harmless”.
What’s wrong with edibles?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)#Adverse_effects
Might be less bad than other drugs but it’s not this magical thing that can never do anything wrong.
And that’s without counting things like driving under the influence of it.
You’re absolutely right. And if you try them yourself, unfortunately most drugs are really good, at first.
That’s the problem with drugs, no?
When you can stop you don’t want to, and when you want to stop, you can’t.
I don’t remember where I read it, but I think it summs it up perfectly.
I did drugs before DARE. So, we knew they were full of shit. However it was the late 70s so we had legit caution about drugs that were administered with needles so avoided those… Then the cocaine era happened.
I remember learning about acid. If you do acid, you will freak out and stab a pencil through your eye.
They showed us a video like
Acid makes you see sounds and taste colors, and isn’t addictive… But don’t do it!
Before the video I absolutely had no desire to try acid, and after the video all I could think was like “what does a color taste like?!?!”
They should have just warned that acid would make you lose a few days. Shrooms will do that too but also land you in a bathroom for hours backandforth… was it just so much fiber??? I never experimented soaking them in hot water for a couple hours before ingesting like dried food mushrooms.
The chitin that makes up shrooms causes stomach upset because your body can’t do anything with it. Making tea and discarding the solids may provide a smoother experience.
I’m sure there are other more thorough forms of extraction, but this is the basic way I know of.
til chitin isn’t just a bug thing, and i am disturbed. somehow eating mushrooms is now akin to eating bugs at this moment. 😩
Look up stuff like lemontek. If you use a sugar base, psilocybin is sugar soluble. Should cut out the nasty feelings and be just slightly more potent. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
now I wanna try
Psychonaut with a couple of decades experience here: Acid can be excellent fun. For many years it was my favourite intoxicant. It definitely has a dark side to it tho.
If you are taking acid for the first time then you should do it with good friends and ideally have either a tripsitter (a sober friend who can help if things start to get a bit overwhelming) or someone who has taken it a few times before.
Do it in a safe space where you feel comfortable and is available for your use for the duration of the trip.
Be prepared for the long haul. A typical acid trip lasts around 8 hours and once you’ve dropped, there’s no going back.
Have a playlist of music that makes you happy, and have your favourite feel-good movie on hand.
If you are feeling anxious or depressed DO NOT DO IT. Acid does not make you feel good like ecstasy or mdma or 2cb. If you are feeling shit it will make you feel 10x worse but if you are in a good place, with good friends, then it is amazing.
Thank you for listening to my head talk.
That’s honestly one of the reasons I decided I probably don’t want to try it. I’m genuinely a nice person but I lean hard into negativity and I am classified as a pessimist. It’s one of the reasons why I’m pretty much the most prepared person in my friend group but it’s also the reason why I don’t want to take anything like acid because if I already think anything can go bad give me a reason to start like going into things that have no logical basis and I will probably end up in a bad place.
That’s fair enough dude. It’s strong stuff and it’s hard to break out if you’re having a bad one. Last time I did it was just after COVID, I was not in the right head space, and it really sent me sideways in a way that it never had before. So now I steer clear. I’d still recommend shrooms tho. They are a much friendlier psychedelic experience.
One of my buddies loves to wear his D.A.R.E. sweatshirt when he smokes.
- Drugs
- Are
- Really
- Excellent
I found one that says “Dispensaries Are Really Expensive”
I also live in a waspy town and several people have noticed the DARE letters, struck up a conversation about how great the program was and we should bring it back,etc. Then they actually read it and get all huffy. Best $24.99 I ever spent.
Does he say no to his weed and then smoke it?
That program was started at around the same time that the US government flooded the country with Crack Cocaine to fund their illegal wars in Central America
If any one is wondering … you should look up the story of Gary Webb
EDIT: … and if anyone is paying attention … the story that Webb uncovered basically ruined his life because the government hounded him like a dog until he lost everything. Even then, he still kept fighting, resisting and writing about all the terrible things the government was doing.
Then at the height of all the news about all this … he died by suicide … from two gunshot wounds to the head! … and people tell me to stop believing in conspiracy theories. How the hell do you shoot yourself in the head twice to kill yourself.
A simplified retelling of this story is in the film ‘Kill the Messenger’ (2014) which stars Jeremy Renner
I just want to know… Where The F… is the CIA when we really need them to protect the country? How is Tupperware Face still walking?
Important clarification:
Webb, an investigative journalist for the San Jose Mercury News, uncovered convincing evidence that proceeds from international cocaine trafficking represented a major source of funding for US-backed right-wing death squads in Nicaragua (known as the Contras) with South Central Los Angeles and other urban African American communities serving as key markets for the drug; and more distressing, that the CIA had become aware of this illicit commerce early on and incorporated it into a broader domestic strategy, allowing the cocaine pipeline to continue and thrive to a massive degree that eventually gave rise to the U.S. “crack epidemic” of the '80s and '90s and the birth of the prison-industrial sector.
Webb DID NOT break the story of America’s crack coming from the Contras with the CIA’s approval. That fact had already been available around the time it occurred. Webb’s contribution was gathering and sharing the details and more evidence. To be fair, Webb never claimed to have any evidence that the CIA engineered the whole thing, only that they knew it was going on, approved of it, and even met with Contra leaders and funders to discuss it.
Webb’s downfall as a journalist is mainly due to his making unsupported claims. If he had had evidence for all of his claims, it would not have made him vulnerable to being discredited. For example, the US Justice Department found that “the allegations contained in the original Mercury News articles were exaggerations of the actual facts,” and that “the claims that Blandón and Meneses were responsible for introducing crack cocaine into South Central Los Angeles and spreading the crack epidemic throughout the country were unsupported.” Even Nick Schou, Webb’s biographer, agreed that, “the story offered no evidence to support such sweeping conclusions, a fatal error that would ultimately destroy Webb, if not his editors.”
On December 10, 2004, Gary Webb took his own life. It is true that there were two bullet wounds in his head, which has raised suspicions that his death might not have been a suicide. However, no evidence has yet been presented contradicting the coroner’s findings, so we have to accept it as such for now.
And yes, Kill the Messenger (2014) is worth watching. It is a surprisingly accurate film starring Jeremy Renner. It portrays how Webb assembled the story and depicts the media’s tomfoolery and its impact on Webb’s life. Even Webb’s own son liked it.
On December 10, 2004, Gary Webb took his own life. It is true that there were two bullet wounds in his head, which has raised suspicions that his death might not have been a suicide. However, no evidence has yet been presented contradicting the coroner’s findings, so we have to accept it as such for now.
I fundamentally disagree with the premise of this statement and you should also.
“What we are being told happened here is completely impossible, but no one has presented anything more plausible, so we must accept this as truth and move on.”
Absolutely not. Bullshit. Fuck that. You should be ashamed of yourself for even writing that in public. You’re being lied to, right to your face, boldly and unashamedly, to rug-sweep a set of extremely illegal governmental actions without any sort of culpability - and your response to this is “Well, better not worry about that then!”
How could you possibly think that’s the correct response to that?
Bit late to do something about it now, we missed that bus, but I can draw a straight line from Ronald Reagan to Contra to this to the fascist hellhole of an American society that find ourselves in in the current day. If anyone had held their government responsible for anything it has done at any point in time, we might have shifted that path just a little.
Bullseye. Anyone swallowing the official story about Webb is naive at best. I mean what the fuck “It’s impossible so we must accept it as truth?”, again what the actual fuck? How does someone think like this?
Then prove it instead of just speculating.
The proof we do have is that Webb became extremely depressed because of all the media slander, his loss of credibility as a journalist from his peers and the general population and ultimately, the resignation from his position, inability to find a job, and loss of his mortgage and house a week prior to his death.
What we have zero proof of is why the CIA would want to kill someone that didn’t break the significant story in the first place, was already widely discredited and shunned, and EIGHT years after the news had died down.
Also, it is not impossible to have a suicide with two bullets. It happens rarely when the first shot fails to be immediately lethal. Considering the first bullet went through his left cheek, it probably didn’t kill him. It was the second shot that hit an artery.
On top of that, Webb’s own family firmly believe it was a suicide and they would appreciate it if you would treat it as such as they knew him a lot more than you did.
Yeah, I’ll get right on that, 21 years after his death. I was 9 years old at the time.
And surely, the CIA has never ever had someone killed under suspicious circumstances…
I remember when I used to think the government told the truth.
One of my sociology professors was involved in a project to assess the effectiveness of DARE. She found that it was slightly effective with one group – 8th grade boys.
Of course, her findings didn’t fit the 80s narrative, so her study was shelved and the LAPD was happy.
I love two things about DARE:
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Their mascot was an anthro lion.
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They did more to get kids ON drugs than they did to get them OFF drugs.
And then there’s former President George Bush, doing his part with Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue.
Totally made drugs more appealing.
I feel like Alf would do coke.
Catamine
Why did Gordon give up on wearing clothes when he came to Earth?
I almost got killed on a police ride along. Wait, didn’t love that part.
Story please
One of the DARE cops took me on a ride along. Dangerous domestic violence situations aside (he took me to the doors), just driving down a main street. He was of course speeding, and a car jumped the median coming head on. He made an amazing fishtail maneuver, spun the car around. He pulled them over into a parking lot. We sat for a minute while we both checked our shorts. We got out (still don’t know why I was allowed out of the car). The driver tried to get out her car and fell on her face. Beyond drunk.
I’ve been in some life or death situations, but this was surely one of the closest.
So how were your shorts?
How would were you at the time?
How would were you at the time?
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What I always found funny later in life was they never said anything about DMT. It was like they didn’t want us to be aware of DMT existing, even though it was discovered in the 30s, found naturally in the 40s, known hallucinogenic for hundreds or thousands of years, but only studied as a hallucinogen in the 50s.
DMT is a glorious hallucinogen that any psychonaut should pursue, it is easier to obtain than LSD and profoundly better with shorter lasting effects than LSD or mushrooms. You got an hour to spend and are willing to shatter reality? DMT can change your mind.
