MAGA’s gonna party like it’s 2020!
I think they’re just trying to get us to panic buy stuff again
There are actually quite a few things at WalMart made in the USA. That was big news in the 90s? early 00s? Do stock up on medical supplies like diabetic test strips and maybe get that new glucose tester today. I bet business in Thailand and Cambodia booms this year.
Great. When do they start calling me essential then require me to work while everyone else is on lockdown?
Being called a hero want enough reward for you? /s
I see what you’re saying about this whole hero thing but how about instead like a few months just feeling like I belong in this world and enjoy existence?
Ok let’s not go over bored here buddy.
You can have an hour of free time at best
Fine but I’m eating cheese, then.
Pizza lunches for moral!
Can someone post the article, it’s completely paywalled for me.
Covid-like shortages for US consumers ‘within weeks’ Shipping data shows container traffic from China to the US is collapsing A shopper looks at nearly empty egg shelves in a grocery store. Apollo Global Management said there “will be empty shelves in US stores in a few weeks”, similar to those of the pandemic, and warned of “significant layoffs” next month
President Trump claimed he has already struck “200 deals” on tariffs with foreign leaders — even as one of America’s biggest asset managers warned that a fall in trade between the US and China will lead to Covid-like shortages within weeks.
Apollo Global Management, which manages about $700 billion of assets, said analysis of China shipping data showed container traffic from there to the US is collapsing.
The consequence “will be empty shelves in US stores in a few weeks and Covid-like shortages for consumers and for firms using Chinese products as intermediate goods”, Torsten Slok, Apollo’s chief economist, said.
• Trump: I’ve made 200 tariff deals and spoken to President Xi
The White House claims that scores of trade deals are close to completion but has yet to release details of any. In an interview with Time magazine, Trump said that trade negotiations with foreign powers could be “finished” within “three to four weeks”.
“Ultimately, I’ve made all the deals,” Trump said in the interview to mark his first 100 days in office. “I’ve made 200 deals.”
Trump said that China’s President Xi had called him, despite China denying any contact between the two governments over the trade war between the economic superpowers. The president did not say when he and Xi spoke or what the two leaders discussed. “He’s called. And I don’t think that’s a sign of weakness on his behalf,” Trump said.
Trump has placed punitive 145 per cent tariffs on imports from China, while Beijing has retaliated with 125 per cent levies on US goods. “There’s a number at which they will feel comfortable,” Trump said, referring to China. “But you can’t let them make a trillion dollars on us.”
Explaining his approach to the tariff policy that has triggered weeks of turmoil on global markets, the president compared the US to the world’s department store.
“I am this giant store. It’s a giant, beautiful store, and everybody wants to go shopping there,” he said. “And on behalf of the American people, I own the store, and I set prices, and I’ll say, ‘If you want to shop here, this is what you have to pay.’ ”
The White House suspended tariffs on other countries for 90 days this month as foreign leaders vowed to negotiate with the Trump administration, but it has not spared China.
Vowing to “fight to the end”, Beijing has restricted exports of rare earth minerals that are vital for manufacturing batteries and high-tech devices.
Apollo warned that a collapse in trade between the US and China would lead to “significant lay-offs in trucking, logistics and retail” next month.
The White House has softened its posture towards China in recent days, claiming that trade talks with Beijing were moving the right direction. China dismissed the claim as “fake news”.
Markets were subdued on Friday. US equities rallied earlier in the week, with the S&P 500 on Thursday posting its third straight gain of more than 1 per cent and the Nasdaq its own third straight gain of more than 2 per cent
Thanks
PLEASE GO PANIC BUY
United States of Corporations
This rhetoric is just trying to butter us up for the impending next round of price gouging.
If something seems too expensive, don’t buy it and opt for goods with less headway for markup. Start cooking scratch meals and cut out the prefab stuff; you’ll take more time for food prep, but it will save you thousands in medical bills later on.
Man, I’m really hoping our OT provider is able to help my kid overcome ARFID, because feeding him is hard enough as it is. We try to home cool stuff, but the tism gets the best of him and he won’t eat a lot of ‘normal’ foods. Good times.
Yup. Your new best friends are rice, beans, white sugar, molasses, (did you know that brown sugar is just white sugar plus molasses?), salt, all purpose flour, oatmeal, and lentils. Bought in bulk. And use your local ethnic markets for spices and bouillons; They’re often 3-5 times cheaper than your local grocery store.
You can just buy one or two things per paycheck, if you can’t afford all of them at the same time. Or hell, get some friends together and split a bulk bag. I have a 10 pound bucket of rice (split from a larger 25 pound bag) that I have been working on for literal months. A 20 pound bag of rice can keep you full for so fucking long, as long as you store it properly.
Then you just add extra things when you can. Maybe you have potatoes, an onion, a clove of garlic, and some pork this week. So you make a loaded baked potato soup. Also, learn to dress up instant ramen. A scoop out of a giant bag of diced frozen veggies will do a lot. If you can afford it, add a soft boiled egg too.
“Nobody has time for flour, cuz you need to wait for it to rise!” Use baking powder recipes, or flatbreads instead. Learn to make biscuits and scones, if you want to bake. Tortillas are stupid easy to make; They’re literally just flour and water, pressed flat (fucking use an empty wine or beer bottle if you don’t have a rolling pin) and cooked on a flat hot surface like a skillet. I could literally fit the entire tortilla cooking process, from raw flour to finished tortillas, into an uncut 5 minute TikTok tutorial if I wanted to. Congrats, now you have tortillas for 2¢ each, instead of a 10 pack for $5. And they’ll fucking taste better than the store-bought ones, because they’re fresh and hot.
“I don’t have a rice cooker so I can’t make rice!” Do you think people have been using electric rice cookers for thousands of years? My brother in Christ, people have been cooking rice using the “just put a fucking vessel over fire” method for over nine millennia now. Will you likely fuck it up the first time, and accidentally make porridge? Yeah. But that’s a learning opportunity, and you only spent like 5¢ making that mistake because the rice is so fucking cheap.
“I can’t afford fancy cookware!” Go hit your local thrift store. I guarantee they have an entire shelf full of cast iron cookware and baking sheets for like $1 each, that you’ll be able to hand down to your grandchildren.
How I make rice - it turns out quite nice every time -
1 cup of rice, 2 cups of water. If we plan on eating a lot of rice, 2 cups of rice, 4 cups of water.
Boil water. Add a pinch of salt, depending on my mood. Once water is boiling, turn heat down to lowest possible setting, put in rice, and put on lid. Set timer for 18 minutes. Do not open lid. When timer goes off, turn off heat, take off lid, fluff rice.
We could surely find a rice cooker, and probably a very fancy one, but I don’t really see much use for it and it’s just another appliance we have to find a place to put…
Also - it’s weird you bring up the molasses thing - my wife just told me about this in the past year when she mixed up a batch of brown sugar. I’ve lived for decades and had no idea.
I havnt finished reading Ive just gotten excited when you mentioned the sugar and molasses information.
For years I’ve only bought pure cane sugar. It is interchangeabe with white sugar, it also still has its molasses. If a recipe calls for a half cup of white sugar and a half cup of brown sugar, I just use a full cup of cane sugar. This works beautifully. Even a recipe that calls for caster sugar. I have placed it in the food processor and ran it for a bit to make it more fine, no issue there. It worked in the recipe beautifully. I do have molasses in my cabinet for its purposes, because they are some, but I don’t understand why today we need white sugar and brown sugar differentiated when we have regular cane sugar. To bake a white cake (The only instance I can think where you would need white sugar at the moment) is pure vanity, not practicality.
I’m so glad you’ve mentioned it here
Some things should suddenly get much cheaper as well, like Pork.
McRib comimg back!
Curious as to why you say this?
China stopped importing it.
Correct… but i wonder if the massive corpo farms that generated that would lower prices or let it rot at a high price and write it off as a loss?
The “should” in my statement was very intentional. Will it? I don’t know. But given massive amounts of excess product in the supply chain, it should
Pork should become stupid cheap.
They will slaughter the animals and dump them illegally near a source of drinking water before they lower prices. We do not live in a market based economy.
<insert quote from Grapes of Wrath>
Was about to say this. Ironicly no capitalist will be happy to see the price go down. And its easier to have solidarity among the pork owners.
Solidarity? I thought it was spelled c.o.l.l.u.s.i.o.n.?
If you deposed your dictator this wouldn’t be happening.
Nah, just roll over and yell “FREEDOM”.
There any sense on what would be good to stock up on now? When I’ve searched this, the advice is usually pretty worthless. Just advice indistinguishable from general prepper stuff. I’ve seen recommendations to stock up on things like flour, things that the US produces domestically in abundance. But some necessities are going to be more vulnerable to disruptions in shipments from China than others.
Anyone find a good guide or have a sense of what basic household necessities are going to be most vulnerable to disruption of trade with China? I’m not concerned with things like consumer electronics right now, those are luxuries. I’m talking basic food and household staples. I don’t need the standard prepper list that’s meant to prepare you for grave natural disasters. What’s really needed is an analysis of precisely what necessities are most likely to be interrupted by this.
Has anyone seen such a list, or have a sense for what necessities are most vulnerable here?
Buy a chest freezer! It opens the world imo.
My advice is if you need something electronic or mechanical and it’s expensive buy it now. I just replaced my hvac last month because I know this summer will be a mess. Most air conditioners are made in Asia. You want an e-bike, buy it now.
The more parts something has the more likely it’s going to be affected by tariffs.
Start growing some food if you can it’s a great way to be more resilient. I’d recommend buying things like coffee and tea and chocolate that are not easily grown in the US. There’s actually a pretty bad chocolate shortage right now I believe.
Also for other stuff, buy used, in thrifts or on eBay. Not only are you recycling, most sellers are individuals rather than big corps. Also, if you have old stuff you are not using, it’s a great time to sell. My eBay sales are up 10% this year.
Big fan of buying used on eBay, here. Works amazingly for clothes, too. They aren’t nearly as poor quality or as dirty as people would imagine. I can get brand new shoes or pairs of pants for $10-$20 per pair!
It’s impossible to know, the economy is complex. Even your example of flour may be affected. Many things aren’t done by hand, and if a machine used in producing flour needs parts that’s sourced from China, there could be a problem that disrupts production. Many things from China comes by ship there’s already been a significant drop in shipping from there. Remember it takes more than a month for a ship to cross the Pacific, and from there it may need to go by rail to where you are. If you live towards the east coast, it will take longer, and if there’s disruptions at the Panama Canal, there could be even more of a delay.
Shipping was busy before the tarrifs, companies were frontloading and warehouses are full. But if people start panic buying, that’ll empt the warehouses really quick and it could be months before anything new gets shipped in and who knows what the prices will be?
Some stuff that’s made in China might be fine if no one panic buys is. Some things made in USA there may be shortages or massive price increases because they need materials from other countries to manufacture them.
So the generic prepper stuff is pretty much the best anyone can offer you. Make sure you have a month’s supply of everything you need, more if possible. You’d need to know the specifics of every industry’s material needs and also know what people might panic buy to be able to be more specific than that.
This is why Trump’s broad tariffs are insane, it’s just pure economic chaos that’s going to hurt Americans more than it will hurt anyone else in the world.
I think the tp during COVID was kind of a fluke. It could have been anything. Laundry detergent, some food product etc. TP was just what the news hung their hat on so it’s what everyone thought about when they went to the store.
I’m personally buying rice, beans, and lots of spices to make some delicious meals and wait out the price shocks of food.
Besides that, I mean what do you really need need when it comes to this stuff? I can think of a few things but it’s a very short list. Really we’re just going to have to ride it out and hope it doesn’t get bad bad
Supposedly the TP issue was that the supply chain was segmented out by office TP and home TP, can’t easily switch over easily but everyone was crapping at home.
Who are all these psychopaths crapping at work
I avoid that scenario as much as possible 😅
Same, especially if it’s a high-traffic one. Our office has one shared for the floor, with 2 other businesses on the same floor sharing it. It’s like Grand Central Station in there…
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime.
That’s why I poop on company time.
(Except I’m salaried and WFH but the principle is the same.)
Haha yeah I guess in that case I poop at work on company time too.
I’m still in the group chat for the office nearest me and there was a LOT of outrage last week because the company mysteriously removed all of the bidets. I was outraged on their behalf!
If you’re just worried about the possibility of shortages and not being able to get food easily then stock up on things that will last a long time in the freezer, is something that you will regularly use regardless, and won’t break you to buy in bulk.
Even with some of the prices already going up a little bit chicken is a good example, you can go by huge packs of it at Costco for a reasonable price still at the moment and other similar stores, vegetables like broccoli florets tend to hold up decently in the freezer for a little while (4-6months) and there multiple types of bread that deal well with being frozen and then later thawed out if you use bread a lot.
Basically instead of trying to hyper optimize like some type of prepper just look at what you generally go through, evaluate what out of that is something that will last in a freezer for a good amount of time, and then bulk up on it and just continue using your food like you normally would. Worst case scenario you saved tiny bit of money by buying in bulk which usually comes with a slight savings. Best case scenario shortly after your bulk buying price is Skyrocket and you can try and ride it out off of your supplies.
Avoid the toilet paper problem by getting a bidet, I spent money on the nice $300 one it has heated water which I like and now a single pack of toilet paper from Costco is like almost a Year’s worth of toilet paper because I only use it to help dry a little faster than the weird but hair dryer does so i use almost nothing
Keep in mind that flour might be in abundance now, but if everyone in the country buys it, the supply might drop quickly.
Apart from that, dried beans and lentils are probably a good source of nutrients, easy to store and last for a while.
If it’s really like Covid, toilet paper will be the first thing to go.
I installed a bidet like two weeks before that entire shortage started. I have never felt more smug about a decision.
Any fellow bidet user should feel smug about it, I say in half jest. Not using a bidet is barbaric, I say in full seriousness.
Can never go back after getting one
More hotels need to have them 😫
Couldn’t agree more. Went on vacation couple weekends ago and felt like a fool using TP
There’s travel options that are a bit like using one of those picnic ketchup bottles. But if you’re like me, you want to blast your ass with a pressure washer and a squeeze bottle just won’t cut it. Some people suggest using a travel water pik but I haven’t tried it myself.
We got a new toilet several months ago and it took some time for the new bidet to get here. Those couple weeks have never felt more disgusting and it removed absolutely any doubts about their superiority.
We have started a sort of bidet pyramid scheme and have converted so many people. Housewarming? Bidet! Christmas? Bidet! Birthday? That calls for a bidet!
I must admit we’re a bit selfish in that we want to minimize the likelihood of bidetless crapping when we’re away from home.
Come to find out, thanks to bidets thorough, frictionless cleaning they’re incredible for people who suffer from hemorrhoids. They’re really hygienic and beneficial and everyone should just get on board already.
I agree.
90% of toilet paper is apparently domestically produced in the USA.
Doesn’t matter. The shortage wasn’t rational then and it won’t be rational this time. It will just be the first thing people hoard.
I have the worst timing …. I’ve been trying to eat my way down to an empty freezer. I bought a chest freezer in covid and kept it full ever since, but it really needs to be defrosted. I still have more stuff in there than can fit in all my coolers and in the fridge.
But maybe I should restock while I can and try again to defrost in four years
You think things will be better in Trump’s 3rd term? 🤔
As someone who doesn’t live in the US, I’m looking forward to watching this unfold.
It’s going to hurt Trump. I’m sorry a lot of Dem voters will be collateral damage but honestly, an economic shit storm of biblical magnitude is pretty much the only thing that can save you IMO.
Lmao hurt Trump? His cultists will be eating rat soup to survive and insist that the economy is great and America is on its way to being Great Again™, and that rat soup is just a necessary sacrifice on that path.
The cultists, yes… but they’re not the ones keeping him on his throne. If enough rich people lose enough money he will be impeached.
Rich people will make money if the stocks go up or down because they’ll know in advance what’s coming.
There’s more at stake than stocks going up or down by a few percent.
People with large business empires don’t want a catastrophic recession.
I hate that you are right about that.
The cultists at jonestown were perfectly fine to die. The magas will die for him at well without complaint.
After the great divide and maga has central USA, you guys can get back to work, but unfortunately the civil war is gonna suck
…as someone who opposed the fascist-in-chief by civil means and will be wholly caught up in the economic maelstrom, i’m looking forward to watching this unfold, too: it’s the only thing which might save us from full-blown armed conflict and martial law…
As an American I agree, though I have to point out something those of us living this shit nightmare know…
This won’t hurt him. At all. His supporters by and large are what you’d expect from full on Stockholm syndrome victims.
They excuse, Sanewash, and pretend it’s part of some plan to make them great.
His supporters? They can soak in their own bloodbaths and say it was Obama’s fault or some Hillary conspiracy.
The one issue voters who sat out last time, the middle of the ground twats who thought their vote didn’t matter, the Palestinians who thought Kamala’s stance on Israel wasn’t strong enough… Those are the people who have to suffer enough to motivate them to not be so fucking indifferent to things they don’t fully understand.
Agreed. After watching videos of people literally dying in the ICU being told they are passing away soon specifically because they got COVID and didn’t take the vaccine or wear masks and drank horse dewormer or whatever else, and when asked if they were regretful, they all say “no,” I knew we were screwed.
Hell, I had that same thought happen again when I watched parents whose little children died from Measles were asked “do you regret not vaccinating your now dead children?” And they immediately without hesitation said “no.”
It is a cult, and they are locked in until they are all burned away like a literal fever.
It is a cult, and they are locked in until they are all burned away like a literal fever.
Yes but, as with any cult, blind faith won’t save them. They’ll go destitute, get sick and die all the same.
It’s a shame it had to come to that but the world will eventually be rid of them anyway. People wishing MAGAtards redeem themselves are focusing on the wrong thing
They are supremely loyal but relatively few enough to be outvoted by the other voters that more casually voted for him. It’s harder for me to grasp, but there are folks that voted for him that wouldn’t be going to his rallies or anything.
There’s a lot of folks who are either.:
Vote republican by default, but a shock could change them.
People who vote for or against the status quo based on how the feel things are going. Trump lost in 2020 in part due to people voting against whoever was in office. Hilary Clinton probably would have lost in 2020 had she won in 2016. Trump won in 2024 in part due to similar sentiment to vote out the current party after the inflation that was likely unavoidable consequence of not collapsing from COVID.
Yes the MAGA cult is unwavering, and they are a huge factor in the GOP primaries and certainly an asset in the general election, but they are not enough to assure an election.
…presuming that quasi-representative elections happen in 2026 and 2028, which are by no means assured…
IMO it’s not really the MAGA idiots you need to worry about. It’s the influential people in the republican party who are supporting Trump.
You’re right that the stereotypical trump supporter can’t be dissuaded by economic hardship.
However, the people that thought Trump was going to deliver them never before seen profits through de-regulation can very easily be dissuaded be economic hardship.
An economic hole is forming, and if it’s deep enough and wide enough Trump will be unseated.
It’s unclear if it’s going to save america, considering it’s 1:1 out of hitler’s playbook. He crashed the economy with tarrifs before going all in.
WTF, this bullshit again.
Well… look who’s president again. Just saying
Let’s see how long they can survive on thoughts and prayers.
Everyone ready to start intermittent fasting without choice?
It’s one way to lower the obesity rate.
Strategic… They stopped paying for wegovy first to get people desperate.
Food is one of the few things we export more to China than we import.
Grateful at this moment for my wife who grew up food insecure who stocked up several months of food. That will run out though eventually.
Faster than you think. I’ve lived off zero a few long stretches, it get really irritating when you realize you’re out of fat to lose.
I’ve been seeing a lot of tiktoks about raising meat rabbits lately
For anyone who prefers the long form version, there’s this classic from 30+ years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pets_or_Meat:_The_Return_to_Flint
None of those weepers have the stones for raising rabbits.
Rabbits scream when you kill them, so yeah… it’s unpleasant.
rabbit stew 🤤
AI Answer to how many you’d need
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Breeding:
A small breeding colony of rabbits, like 2 does and a buck, could potentially produce 40-50 rabbits per year, enough for a small family, according to Mother Earth News.
Meat Yield:
A rabbit can yield a significant amount of meat. One rabbit can easily feed a family of four, and they are generally sold whole, weighing just under three pounds, says Countryside Magazine and FoodPrint.
Sustainability:
Rabbits can be a sustainable meat source due to their relatively efficient conversion of feed to meat compared to other livestock. Individual Needs:
The number of rabbits needed would depend on your individual meat consumption and preferences.
I’m gonna combine it with intermittent non-pooping.
I’m going to make another sticker that instead says “You voted for this.”
I think the “too much winning” is the best
Tbf, a lot of Dem voters sat it out, allowing him in. Don’t forget that special class of virtue signalling moron.
If they sat out then they werent Dem voters
Almost like the system isn’t “people promise they’ll vote for us and we can phone in our election” or something, eh?
Any society is three meals from revolution
All the qons would have to do is cut the power while the shelves are empty, point at the trans and the POC and the liberals, and tell their base that they took their stuff and that BLM/“antifa”/illegals attacked the energy grid…
This probably won’t be a starvation situation. This will be a supply crunch for all the cheap shit at Walmart and Target that Americans love.
Have no fear, Classico Pasta sauce should fare just fine, because their main ingredient is now water! Also now that it’s the main ingredient, they can just dial it up as much as they want without it moving up the list anymore!
All the sugar addicts are going to flip.
That’s all it will take.
Hit the Magas where it hurts - Walmart.
