Just here for the facts

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Cake day: August 13th, 2023

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  • I don’t understand your point. Is this because of the vegan point of view that that’s what happens to the livestock?

    If you are really asking, I have answers.

    But, if your questions are about animal consumption, I’m not in any way saying people shouldn’t be vegan.

    I was taking issue that equating someone who goes to church once a week (and does nothing else) is NOT the same as a vegan who is vegan 24/7.

    Someone was trying to say it was the same thing. Like vegans are only vegan when it’s convenient, or one meal a week only. So it would be super easy for a butcher and a vegan to be partners in that case. My argument is that while it could happen, someone is compromising a lot or not really walking the walk.

    Religious people are to vegans What Non practicing people are to omnivores that eat vegan sometimes.

    If you’re only doing it once a week, there’s not going to be much friction.

    Saying otherwise about people who live their beliefs 24/7 is minimizing the strong beliefs of religious people and vegans.

    My point was that religious people aren’t just perfomative one day a week. It’s going to bother the true believers to see their partners doing things that go against their beliefs.

    Including a lot of vegans.

    Some exceptions always, because humans are complicated.


  • UU was fine. I’m not looking for a congregation, so not my cup of tea.

    I really liked Buddhism until it got into the mysticism and some of the suburban converts were super obnoxious. I also don’t believe in any mysticism, so Wicca and similar are out. I’d love to believe. I want to be able to do magic.

    My best friend is Jewish (converted) and I appreciate the lack of judgement from her and her friends. But they still live varying lifestyles that seem important to them, but I don’t see how it gets me closer to god. Plus, it doesn’t seem appropriate for me.

    Honestly, the Satanists resonate the most. But it’s also a religion to make sure religion stays separate from the American government. The point of it is that people who want to live a certain way can do it without a sanctioned religion breathing down their neck or burning them at the stake. You are right about Satanists/Atheists. The Satanists like you aren’t believers, you are just trying to be good people. But you are also going to get judged in the Bible Belt if you are public about it and told you are going to hell. Other than supporting the cause, I’m already doing my best to live by the tenets, since before I knew about them.


  • You are correct, not all religious people, some are super tolerant.

    My lived experience is that being an out atheist means the religious people that love you are worried your soul is going to the Bad Place (whatever that happens to be) and people who don’t care for you don’t trust you because an atheist doesn’t have fear of eternal punishment to stay in line.

    But even the super tolerant seem to really want to convert you, because they don’t want you to suffer eternal punishment. Tell one you’d like to know more and see.

    Evil was a bit much, but people who think you’ll suffer eternal damnation for not believing in the same thing (or an acceptable thing), the end result is that they think you’ll be in hell with the evil people after you die.

    But I grew up in the Bible Belt of the USA. Maybe the religious people where you are don’t care about conversion and salvation.

    People who are religious and “just go on Sunday” but don’t live their beliefs the other 6 days, aren’t religious. They are social, peer pressured, or whatever.

    My point is that vegans live their beliefs and lifestyles 24/7. Religious people live it 24/7. If you are religious are you okay living with someone sinning 24/7 by being an atheist?

    A person who only goes to church once a week and otherwise lives without a thought to their religion is like a vegan that eats meat voluntarily everyday except Sunday.

    Why are you upset that I believe atheists are judged because of the lack of belief in a god? Being judged worthy is a huge part of religion.

    Can you name some organized religions where no one is judged? Some that are completely tolerant of all others? (Lgbt+, women, competing religions, heretics, etc etc)

    I’m asking earnestly. I’ve studied many religions when trying to figure out my place in the world. It’s about finding the one that most aligns with the kind of person you want to be. Or aligning with the one your community or family follows. Or giving up and just trying to do the best you can to be a good person.


  • Both the vegan and religious person are judging their partner for how they fundamentally live their life. And low key (if not full throated) simmer in the evilness of you not living right and want you converted to save you.

    Religious people don’t “just go to church on Sunday” and are atheist the rest of the week. (Does not apply to closet atheists)


  • To me it can be like watching A Muppet Christmas Carol with certain older movies.

    Michael Caine’s acting skill with muppets make the magic. He’s not playing pretend against a green screen and a tennis ball on a string. He’s playing against fantastical creatures and killing it. Making us believe it, even though we can see the glue holding it together sometimes in 4K.

    The original Total Recall is like this too. Everyone is knocking it out of the park, especially when the Mars scenes starts and every frame is filled with fantastical practical (mostly, I believe) creations.














  • There’s a movie called Shallow Grave. Ewan McGregor’s character is on the phone at work at a newspaper. We hear his side of the conversation:

    Was there a pet in the house? Yeah, a pet. You know, like a dog or a budgie or a gerbil or something? What I need here is “PC Plod saves Harry the Hamster from house of horror”. All right. Well, that’s a pity. You see, no pets - no human angle.

    This line has lived rent free in my head for almost 30 years. “All right. Well, that’s a pity. You see, no pets - no human angle.”


  • While I love manga and the artwork… I read and comprehend words much, much faster. For a massive opus like One Piece, I would love a novel version of the manga that I could dig into, with the novel and manga chapters lining up or notated, so I could go back and read chapters of the manga and enjoy the artwork for especially key or poignant scenes. Then I could start just consuming the manga and anime in real time… Right now it’s just too daunting to start. I’ve seen the first season of live action and anime. I’m very interested, I just can’t justify the time commitment.