I don’t know any serious leftist who would assume once we have a socialist system we are just done

It’s what Marxism is about isn’t it? Leftism is heavily influenced by Marxism, you hear leftists often say “late stage capitalism” without thinking how stupid the implications of that phrase are. Constant references to Star Trek abound, without realizing that show is actually agnostic on economics, they use an ideal system, but the writers don’t know what that would be. “Post-scarcity economy” is another phrase that’s used often.

Overall this indicates leftists don’t actually know anything about economics, they’re just unhappy with how things are going and have no idea how to fix it. Not significantly different than the MAGA movement, just putting faith into narratives that feel right to them.

Finance != Economics. Financial dumbassery can impact economics and economics will improve finances, there’s a relationship but they aren’t the same thing.

People learned the long lesson from the energy crisis in the 1970s, choosing “supply side” economics, which is putting the financial sector in charge of economics, and that’s resulted in an upside down economy. People learned the wrong lesson from the energy crisis, should’ve learned to end our dependence on oil, but people got bamboozled into thinking Reagan good and Carter bad. Now we’re in a situation where we can’t make the economy function properly because half the electorate is convinced the anything other than supply side economics is literally communism, and a significant portion of other half of the electorate is becoming convinced that they should support other failed economic policies in opposition to the failed supply side policies.

Many of the economic problems we’re facing have happened before, and instead of considering those policies (trust-busting, Keynesian economics, taxes on the wealthy) you’re presented with a choice between different paths to economic failure.

No she was fleeing the current regime, the one that beats women to death for showing their hair.

No evidence of this.

Only if you ignore the IAEA, how nuclear reactors work, and the fact that none of the uranium enriched in Iran is used in their one nuclear reactor (they use uranium imported from Russia for that) because it’s not suitable for civilian use. You don’t enrich uranium above 5% when it’s for civilian use, LOL.

Belief in at dictatorship of the proletariat and “the state will wither away” and all of the nonsense around how capitalism and imperialism corrupted science, etc.

The biggest famines in history weren’t caused by natural disasters, they were caused by weirdo ideology.

If you had specific questions on how things worked, then you might be able to learn something. You’re not going to learn anything by through snark.

Economics is a whole field of study. You expect me to teach a University class in a web forum thread?

You’re choosing narratives over listening to experts. I’m not an expert on economics, but I’ve learned enough to know that best case leftists are grifters, and worst case they are true believers that might actually try to implement economic policy without consulting with experts.

I guess we’ll need to wait and see on Mamdani.

So the Trump strategy of trying to kill trade is “wise” now?

You can have a universal healthcare system run in a socialist manner because both supply and demand are really warped when there’s patents and people’s lives on the line. But within the same country you could still have private businesses. And you can mix and match, having sectors partially solcialist and partially capitalist (subsidized industries, government procurement from private industry, regulations, etc.).

Capitalism like any tool needs maintenance (so does socialism) but there’s precedent for trust-busting and Keynesian economic policy.

The problem is everyone wants some silver bullet solution so they can vote once and all problems are solved forever. That’s an immature understanding of economics. It’s a whole field of study, economics is a complex area of study, and both the MAGAs and the leftists refuse to to even try to understand it. It’s like watching children argue over CPU architecture just screaming things at each other over something they have no understanding of while the wealthy laugh at both groups.

Back at ya.

Well he’s a corporate socialist (wanting a system for the benefit for corporations) similar to Xi Jinping (who Trump admires). But fascists call themselves whatever will get them power, so I guess Trump calls himself a Republican and Xi calls himself a Communist. So use what they label themselves or choose your own labels.

Communism is when authoritarians impose socialism for weirdo ideological reasons. Libertarianism is when people want capitalism control every sector of the economy, also for ideological reasons.

Both are stupid.

Well yeah atheism is a religion. You just don’t believe it’s a religion.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1489428/

First season was a bit procedural, but S2 may be the best season of TV of anything. Other seasons were great too, and it had the best ending of any TV show I’ve seen.

Based on some of the works of Elmore Leonard (author of the books movie like Get Shorty and Jackie Brown are based on) it’s about an old school cowboy kind of guy by the name Raylan Givens (Timothy Olyphant)… but in modern times. So cowboys vs. gangsters kind of thing.

Here’s the opening scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho2_c_LGZfk

Raylan isn’t the most interesting character, interesting enough though because it is questioned whether he’s creating situations so he can kill people, what the influence his father (a violent abusive criminal) had on him, etc. But it’s kinda like Batman TAS, where the villains are the really interesting part of it. The main villain, Boyd Crowder (Walton Goggins), is kinda like the Joker because he knows the hero is going to win and makes all of his schemes around that.

You can skip City Primeval tho, it’s kinda pointless other than the last five minutes.

Like I say, children think of capitalism as a system. The right wing believes this too. Children arguing with children.

Capitalism can co-exist with socialism in the same economic system. Happens in many countries. Just Americans can’t make that work.

“Sit down and stop being condescending.” – someone that doesn’t lecture people

That’s a lot of rationalization and excuses for why you won’t speak out against the rampant racism within your group.

Here in Canada we’re needing to create protest bubbles to prevent people from harassing Canadian Jews: https://globalnews.ca/news/11265909/protest-law-blocking-school-place-fo-worshp/

Look at the people in that image. They are protesting Canadian Jews because they’re angry at Jews on the other side of the world. It’s antisemitism.

We went through the same thing with the Antivaxxer Convy protests. Bunch of racist assholes back then were using their antivax bullshit as a reason to go out and harass random Asian people on the street.

This movement is no different. And how effective do you think your movement will in influencing government policy when the government is busy making policies to prevent your group from engaging in antisemitic attacks?

The point of this group is obviously not to change anything, and it’s turning into a hate group because no one within the group is speaking out against the antisemitism. Look at the image in the article I linked to. By their actions (harassing Canadian Jews at a synagogue), they are antisemitic people and how is anyone supposed to distinguish between that group of antisemitic assholes and any other “pro-Palestinian” protest? Given what I see posted here daily I’m doubting there is anyone that actually cares about Palestinians, it’s just an excuse to express hatred and fit in with the group expressing hatred. We’ve seen this kind of shit happen before.

In Canada, our grandparents fought a war against antisemitc assholes, so you aren’t going to intimidate very many Canadians into joining your cause when it’s entangled with antisemitsm and violence. If you’re looking the other way about antisemitism in your movement, you’re in a hate group and people will oppose it. If you really believed in your cause you wouldn’t feel the need to use violence to impose your views on others.

Yeah with how effective drones have been in Ukraine (especially in hitting the Russian Navy) I kinda doubt they’ll have the capability. I feel like Taiwan is probably developing the capability to mass produce drones right now. They most definitely have the technology. Amphibious invasions are really hard to pull off, and China doesn’t have a lot of naval experience. And nobody has ever done it with a thousand drone boats in the water.

And yup, authoritarians do stupid things with their military, we saw that already with Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. So the question is, how stupid is Xi Jinping? I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

I’m gonna need you to get all the way off my back with these obsolete tanks.

Children think of capitalism as a system. Economists think of capitalism as a tool.

So it’s just going to be children arguing against children with no one even trying to learn anything?

Everyone knows what Trump is. Trump is demanding an increase in military spending with the expectation that the money will go to the US. He’s basically demanding tribute.

Saying “sure we’ll spend more on defense” while spending on our own defense industry is calling his bluff while also getting ready for if and when he starts using the US military to bully allies.

Nobody else in the world needs to be lectured about the problems with the US military industrial complex. We know.