Yeah we just called it the sound effect it made when you got it… it’s just hard to type out the exact sound.

No I’m saying we’re preparing for every possible contingency no matter how unlikely. You’re talking like this is a certainty and we’re unprepared for it.

You’re not quite understanding the probability of an economic collapse of the US, the probability of the politcal collapse of the US, the probability of that leading to a civil war. These are far more likely scenarios than Trump convincing the US military to invade and ally without that resulting in the military turning on Trump, combined with the probability of our NATO (two of whom are nuclear powers) allies also abandoning Canada, countries like the UK which would’ve been fucked in WWII without Canada, along with a bunch of countries Canada liberated. I know as an American you think you single-handedly defeated the Nazis and all countries are beholden to you forever about it, but Canadians were flying over Britain in their darkest hour and Americans weren’t. Whose side do you think Europe will take? This scenario is 99.9% an internet fantasy, but we’ll be ready for that 0.1% anyway only because we have to plan for all possible contingencies. But you’re going on like it’s a certainty and it’s very very far from that.

Perhaps you should do meaningful boycott and sell your US based financial assets as a country

You think a guy like Carney doesn’t have financial plans for the US? It’s not in our interest to be the cause of a US financial collapse it’s better for us if that happens on it’s own, so Americans blame Trump for it.

dk why you’re mad at me I’ve been boycotting these fuckers for over half a decade, welcome to the club, you could do so much more, and be less hateful to people who have no controls over the levers.

Because you’re exhibiting the American superiority that’s the root cause of all of this mess. You think everything in the world has to revolve around the US, and can’t accept the US not being the bestest most greatest nation in history. You are not the rulers of the world, if your country collapses we’ll have a tough go of it for a few years, but we’ll be fine. Probably won’t even be as bad as the pandemic, and we got through that.

BOTH SIDES!

So are you leftist or MAGA? Y’all say the exact same things these days.

So you prefer masked men abducting people off the street to how it was last year?

Progess takes a lot more time than regression. You think improving government should be like ordering something off of Amazon, just check a box and have it the next day. That’s not how things work, and if you were really dedicated to change you’d be willing to vote in every election (including the primaries) to get that change. The anti-abortion crowd are the minority but they got what they wanted by doing this for decades. You’re not getting what you want because you’re just not as dedicated as they are. Democracy requires work to get what you want, and if you’re not even bothering to vote you’re conceding governing to those that are way more dedicated to their causes than you are.

I think they may be under the impression that people actually read the articles instead of staring at just the photos and trying to find some pattern to them.

Yup, every day I see leftist memes that hate on liberals so much they are indistinguishable from MAGA memes. The monetized “socialist” influencers have successfully neutralized leftism as an effective politcal force.

The key is “with human supervision”. Calling it Full Self Driving with “Supervised” in parentheses aftwards while putting out videos where they say the only reason there’s some behind the wheel is because of regulations (those annoying “regulations” amirite?) leads people to think they don’t really need to supervise the driving of the car.

Couple that with the fact that there are actual full self driving cars (Waymo) there’s even greater confusion.

People have been killed because of the misconceptions about Telsa cars actually being full self driving. Which they aren’t, they cheap out on the hardware needed for that to be possible, let alone the software.

Oh FFS you’re honestly claiming Kamala would’ve had masked goons roaming around cities and grabbing up anyone that looked “ethnic”?

Talk about brain dead.

“Don’t compare me to the Almighty, compare me to the alternative.” - Joe Biden

Democracy is not a great system, it’s just better than the alternatives. In a democracy you aren’t going to have something perfect on the ballot that you can mark an X beside and all problems are solved forever. In a democracy it’s you’re duty as a citizen to keep informed and prevent the worst people from getting into power. Joe Biden wasn’t a saint, neither was Obama, or Clinton, or anyone else. What matters is using your vote to get the best possible outcome result possible from every given election. The best possible result may not be great, but you’re preventing something even worse. The constitution is just a piece of paper, it doesn’t protect your rights, your vote protects your rights. That healthcare you want, isn’t going to happen when you take a principled stand by not voting for anything less than perfection, in fact you’ll probably lose what little you have.

You’re looking at all the faults of Biden but he did a lot to promote labour unions, got the ball rolling on anti-trust on corporations, protected the meager healthcare you have, repaired relations with other countries, and was actually a good steward of the economy considering the circumstances (and despite the media narrative). Was he perfect? No. Would Kamal been perfect? Nope. But what small progress was made is lost now and you’re descending into becoming a fascist hellhole because you lacked the pragmatism to accept anyone that didn’t pass your bullshit purity test.

And you’re whinging about him pardoning his son? Have you been living under a rock? Trump is prosecuting anyone and everyone that ever said anything negative about him. People complain about old Joe being senile (and maybe he was) but even he had the wherewithal to now where things were going more than you do. Everyone knew Trump was going to turn the DOJ into his own personal attack squad except for you apparently.

And the corporate news will not publish pictures like that because it does the most harmful thing it could possibly do to this corrupt incompetent administration: it would damage their image, which is just about all they have.

Or maybe the respectable media just doesn’t do trashy tabloid level body shaming stories?

Nah it must be some insane conspiracy!

We just called it the WOOM.

I always thought of it as the “go super fast straight into a spike” power up since that’s how it usually worked out.

No it won’t. That just gets someone either killed by the Secret Service or put in jail for the rest of their lives. And you convince a lot of people that a crackdown is justified.

Where are you from, Russia? Iran? Why are doing this idiotic stochastic terrorism bullshit that obviously only makes things worse for everyone? Maybe you’ve just been influenced by foreign troll farms to talk this way. But it’s stupid and will only get people hurt with no positive political outcome.

Pretty much the case. Even those on the left want to blame Democrats for the things Trump is doing. Like it should’ve been obvious in 2016 this guy shouldn’t be President. After Jan 6 he should’ve been thrown in prison. The US has become a country of whiny children crying about how mommy and daddy Democrats aren’t protecting them from the worst impulses created by the horrible culture the countries decayed into. Without realizing the reason you hate the Democratic party is because you’ve become a culture that hates democracy in general.

Americans always think the stock market = economy. While there may have been some connection between the stock market and the economy in the past, once you transferred most of the money to the wealthy, that’s no longer the case. Now it’s essentially a casino for billionaires, and they get all the insider tips.

Speaking of casinos, Las Vegas is a ghost town now because your tourism industry is suffering. Which means unemployment. China isn’t buying soybeans from US grown soybeans anymore which means farms will go bankrupt or (more likely) they’ll be bailed out by the government.

You really think you’re gonna be able to stop Donald Trump from consolidating power and invading you in 2-3 years?

The most probably outcome is things are mostly the same but suck a bit more for you. Next most likely, economic depression. After that US completely collapses hopefully like the Soviet Union did, but with the American fetishization of violence, civil war would be more likely.

You need to get far down the list of probably outcomes to get to the US invading Canada.

The US is good at invading countries. Not so good about about occupying countries. And you’d be asking people in your military to die because of the whims of a crazy old man. Remember that both Canada and the US were in Afghanistan for decades. Which means the US would be committing the greatest betrayal in human history, invading a country years after being in a decades long war together. All because a crazy old man want to change how things look on the map? Also remember Canadians have experience in Afghanistan. I have a family member that diffused IEDs In Afghanistan. Pretty sure he also knows how to build an IED. Something you should keep in mind when you’re fantasizing about a war with Canada.

You may be looking at the massive numbers and tech the US military has, but the only number that matters is 2000. That’s the number of American soldiers that died in Afghanistan, so that’s the number of soldiers we’d have to kill if they dared cross into Canada. And remember there wouldn’t be an ocean between you and the country you’re fighting, there would be war within the US which Americans wouldn’t handle very well. Y’all shit your pants when there’s a few unidentified drones over New Jersey, what would you do when there’s drones flying over you carrying munitions? You think Pete Hegseth and his right wing version of DEI of prioritizing people looking the part over competence would keep you safe?

Your military is being converted into a Russia style military designed to look good at parades, be loyal to the dear leader, and tell dear leader what he wants to hear. Your government is being tasked to go after the “enemy within” so with every passing day you’re becoming weaker against outside threats. In 2-3 years time, continuing the current trend, if you were to invade Canada it might go about as well as Putin’s “two week special operation” in Ukraine.

You’re becoming Russia. You’ve got the kleptocratic government, authoritarian leadership, and declining military capabilities, but the authoritarian leader isn’t aware because he fires anyone that doesn’t tell him what to hear. They’re working towards media control and phony elections like Russia has. Even a decade ago, the US didn’t have the capabilities to occupy a country the size and population of Canada. With your country in decline, you may soon lack the capability to successfully invade, which is relatively easy compared to occupation. But you still like to threaten other countries (like Russia does) to create a narrative about being big and strong while you’re in decline.

Well yeah they called in the military to keep you safe from antifa. It’s like how this rock I have keeps the tigers away. I don’t see any tigers around so its working.

The trade war is top news here, and we’re spending a lot more on military including developing drone production capabilities.

Every week I go to the grocery store there’s fewer US made products on the shelf and more products made elsewhere. Most of us are avoiding products made in the USA, it’s a common sight to see people checking labels for where things are made and putting it back on the shelf if it’s American, I do the same. We can survive economic hardship as long as we have food. This is on the minds of every Canadian and a lot of Europeans as well.

China’s trade to the US is way down, but their overall trade numbers are up. Why do you think that is? It’s because trade is being routed around the US because we know the US cannot be trusted. Used to be China was the last place I’d buy things from (only when there’s no other option) but now the US is the last place. And not as much stuff is made in the US as you might think. It’s difficult to avoid buying stuff from China, but it’s actually very easy to avoid buying from Canada. The US is stupidly handing over the economic power to China, which sucks. But we’ll get by.

And don’t think this is a temporary thing either. Even if the US votes in a Democrat next election (if there even are elections) we can’t trust you to not go back to someone as crazy (or even crazier) as Trump. We thought y’all learned when Trump got voted out last time, but obviously there are fundamental problems in American culture that will take generations to fix, if ever. The most reasonable outcome is the the US to dissolve and form smaller countries, hopefully it won’t take a civil war to accomplish that. But it’s obvious the US doesn’t work as a country anymore, the sooner Americans realize that the sooner the world can form trade relationships with the less stupid parts of the US like California and New York. You know, the parts of the US that actually matter to the rest of the world.

Most fascist movements actually fade away. We tend not to focus on those too much since it’s not as interesting as the fascist movements that started WWII.

It’s not as exciting to do non-violent resistance, but it makes it difficult for authoritarians to accomplish anything and failed authoritarians don’t have a very long lifespan. There are those that respect authoritarians because “they get things done” but when the opposite happens and nothing works as good as it used to they aren’t respected by anyone. Even an authoritarian needs a base of support to have power and through non-violent resistance this can be accomplished.

Violent resistance actually helps a fascist movement in the early stages. See the assassination of Charlie Kirk… it didn’t weaken them in any way, it actually made them stronger. A loner with a gun isn’t going to change anything, even a small armed group can’t change anything. You need to build a significant base of support to accomplish anything and that’s what the No Kings group is doing. Most likely the non-violent resistance will succeed, and even in the case where the fascists use violence against a non-violent movement, there’s actually a framework for a resistance movement to succeed by other means.

You gotta have numbers to accomplish anything and No Kings is building up their numbers. That’s a real movement that can do something more than just whining on the internet.

You haven’t been paying attention have you? The government wants violence to justify them taking away more rights and gaining more power. Everything they’re doing so far is under the made up emergencies because of made up threats. These actions can be challenged in court.

If there were real violent actions they’d have real power not the phony power they have now based on phony claims of violence.

Who’s side are you on? The things you’re saying serve to help the fascists. One unhinged loner does violence and you get what? Another Charlie Kirk kind of thing? What did that accomplish?

Right now it’s a time to organize. Not organize online, that’s bullshit since the powers that be mostly have control over. Organize face to face with people in your community. If only there were some event happening where people could do that…

Abolitionist movements, women’s suffrage movements, and civil rights movements were all successful non-violent resistance movements.

What did violent resistance movements achieve other than getting a bunch of people killed? Oh right sometimes the leaders of violent resistance movements get power and there is the 100% predictable result of putting violent people into power.

On the internet there’s always some foreign troll farm whispering “burn down your own capital” in everyone’s ears all of the time in every country they don’t like. But it’s stupid to listen to them, their motives aren’t to improve anything for you, they just want to create chaos.

Violent resistances don’t accomplish anything. Non-violent resistances have accomplished a lot if you actually study history instead of listening to the troll farms.