A CNN/SSRS survey of 1,245 U.S. adults shows that 63 percent are unhappy with Trump’s performance as president, the highest figure of either of his terms.#

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    I’m downvoting every headline like this until it’s referring to more than a 1 or 2% drop as “the lowest ever”. It is always a 60/40 split. Every time.

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      I guess you could attribute a fair share to self-destructive and contrarians but 37% is still too high.

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      19 hours ago

      this. the most shocking thing to me is how low it is for disapproval. What would it take for those folks to disprove? We literally have masked paramilitary grabbing folks off the street.

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        Probably if he tried to implement UBI or forgive student loans. That would probably lose his base.

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        They want masked paramilitary to grab folks off the street. As long as the paramilitary isn’t grabbing them, they think it is working perfectly fine.

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        Stock market collapse/bubble bursy and more aggressive recession indicators. That’s what it will take to really move the needle.

        These things are all bad if you are paying attention and have empathy. But the number of people being DIRECTLY impacted is still too small for it to affect that 37% of consistently stupid, selfish idiots. It will need to take more impact, for millions of people, and more than gradually worsening prices and things.

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        You gotta account for the bigots, intellectually challenged, sociopaths, illiterate, old and senile, etc. If you’ve worked retail, you might even be surprised it’s only 37% of people who lack critical thinking or empathy.

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          Yeah and I sorta feel it. I know this is not nearly on the level but I was coming back to my car after putting the shopping cart in the return carousel to watch a woman push hers to the side of her car and get in. The return carousel let me be clear was behind us like 3 parking spaces distance down. So as she pulled out I grabbed her cart and walked the excruciating few steps to put it in the return. I then mopped my brow from my superhuman effort, got in my car, and rode away. I swear the effort bar for people to do their part is so incredibly low.

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            It may not cause excessive damage but it’s certainly a red flag. One of those signs that someone is probably a shitty person, like being rude to wait staff or yelling at nurses that are trying to help them. But hey, it’s been proven that you can be a scummy piece of shit and still become president.

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        19 hours ago

        I’d imagine a lot of those people are on food stamps so that’ll hopefully impact that disapproval as well. This is pre-losing snap, it’ll be interesting to see polls after.

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          17 hours ago

          well and the health care marketplace. unless they buy into the republican vibe argument that its the democrats fault because well they just are.

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        You’ve got to remember that for most people living outside of cities, or living in red cities, this might as well not exist. Hell I bet even within big cities you might not be exposed to it depending on the neighborhood. You’d only really know through the news, and they don’t get their news from anywhere that would show them the truth.

        If by chance word actually gets back to them that something really is happening, it’s already been carefully run through the Republican spin machine, where this is all very legal and very necessary to “restore order” - where resisting is the real anti-American thing to do.

        What would it take to collapse the fantasy-land Trumpers inhabit on the daily? I’m not sure. You’re fighting 50 years of conservative propaganda for some of these folks - Trump is just the latest at the helm. They won’t be swayed easily.

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          I mean again. Even their own footage shows it. Their videos honsetly makes me ill because of how they try to make it out like its something good.

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      Gotta keep an eye on that 37% because they seem to be the only ones that matter to the country … at the expense of everyone else.

      Sure takes the “demos” out of “democracy”

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    Do polls even matter anymore in this era of politics?Are 1,245 US adults enough to gather anything truly meaningful? What type of people tend to take these polls and are they really reflective of the general population?

    Been seeing these bs “disastrous polling for Trump” headlines since his first term

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      It matters but Trump’s polling is remarkably stable. Headlines are overstating the changes which are barely measurable.

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      Disregarding sampling bias and other effects, sure, 1,245 is enough for a statistically significant representative sample. You can’t do a lot of subsampling or cohort analysis from it, but if you just want to infer the behavior and attitudes of “Americans” and you sample that many Americans effectively enough, you’re fine.

      But practically speaking, no. You’re not going to sample that many Americans effectively enough. Polling is a shitshow these days.

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        He definitely is he’s just counting on the numbers being whatever he tells the Russian hackers to make them be. He likely won’t be campaigning without the ego feeding crowds. He’ll (as if by magic) win the popular vote. I believe this was the purpose behind feeding all of our personal data in the government systems to Russia. They’ll pinpoint people to switch their votes and while I don’t know the plan on exactly how they’ll use the data, Defcon hackers showed exactly how they’ll be doing the vote tampering.

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    And this comes right after he boasts on… Truth Social, was it? about how incredibly popular he is. Interesting.

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    19 hours ago

    As a community can we just try to get sources that aren’t paywalled?

    We can really consider paywalled/ adwalled journalism.

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      I share your preference but I find it odd to say it’s not journalism if it’s not available for free. Newspapers weren’t free but they were definitely journalism.

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        but I find it odd to say it’s not journalism if it’s not available for free. Newspapers weren’t free but they were definitely journalism.

        As an author, I think it depends on where you think things begin and end. I publish in scientific journals, and its quite literally not possible to do the kind of work that I do if the information isn’t available. If I can’t access your work, I can’t “do science” on it because I can’t both a) be critical of it, and b) use it as the basis of my own work. Journalism, is in this sense, all the same; its transformative work that builds on things that already exist which the author themselves did not create.

        The beginning of an article on the war on terror doesn’t begin or and when the author picks up the pen. That author will draw on sources and writing and journalism which already exists; while it may be transformative, it doesn’t exist as an island to itself. If I can’t read your work, I can’t audit it or build on it. Journalism has the same knowledge-building logic. Reporting is transformative work that stands on prior reporting; it’s meant to be checked, contextualized, and advanced by others, and barriers that prevent that from happening.

        And to be clear, I spend real money every month on journalists whose coverage I think is good and important and should be supported. But I specifically support journalists who put their work out there freely; I don’t support operations that don’t put there work out there for all to consume.

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          I publish in scientific journals, and its quite literally not possible to do the kind of work that I do if the information isn’t available. If I can’t access your work, I can’t “do science” on it

          Ok so maybe I have no idea what I’m talking about, but scientific journals are not free.

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      Pretty sure Biden’s highest disapproval rating wasn’t this high as most people could just ignore what the government was doing because it wasn’t imploding. Trump has made enough of a mess that the people who normally ignore things are actually choosing disapproval.

  • Makeitstop@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Particularly noteworthy here is the way the 5-7% who are “unsure” in all previous polls have disappeared in the past few months.

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      18 hours ago

      I’d love to know what part of that percentage is because some people are so tuned out that they don’t pay attention at all and have just realized politics cares about them, too, and under Taco, that’s not a good thing? Or how many were okay with everything Taco was doing, as long as they thought they wouldn’t be impacted, because fuck everyone else, and now realize that they may be impacted?