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Notable majority feel the country is headed in the wrong direction, and only 27% approve of his job performance
Donald Trump’s standing with Hispanic adults has dropped notably since he took office at the start of the year, according to a new poll.
Polling by the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research suggests growing unease among a voting bloc that was crucial to his 2024 re-election victory. The October survey shows that 25% of Hispanic adults now hold a “somewhat” or “very” favorable view of Trump, down sharply from 44% in an AP-NORC poll conducted just before he began his second term.
At the same time, the share of Hispanic respondents who believe the nation is headed in the wrong direction has risen from 63% in March to 73% in October.
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27% of people still haven’t realised they’re next.
I mean. I have no idea why the fuck any of them, no matter how “conservatives values” they might have been, would have supported this dumbass. Did they not even see Stephen Miller in his first term?
It’s still 25%? What. The. Fuck.
Bro Spanish language radio in South Florida is absolutely wild with the propaganda. I wasn’t in the least bit surprised when I saw the polling numbers.
Is that aimed primarily at Cubans? What is an example of some of the propaganda?
Not just Cubans, but the Hispanic culture by and large in South Florida is that of machismo. So having any amount of empathy is seen largely as a weakness. And I wasn’t a regular consumer of the Spanish radio but every time i was scanning stations I would inevitably come across an Español tucker Carlson, or sometimes tucker himself. Talking about how we need to close the “open border”, and Democrats want to turn everyone gay. You know the typical red meat for chuds.
Democrats want to turn everyone gay
🤣
I don’t even know how that would work in practice if Democrats (or someone else) even wanted that to happen, which they don’t.
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Citizens are getting harassed and brutalized by ICE. Prices are skyrocketing and unemployment is surging. The approval rating should be much lower.
Trump is doing what was promised. A lot of scumbags are very happy.
Right? Like it’s weird so many people are saying “This isn’t what I voted for.” Yes, it is exactly what you voted for.
he also said you voted on what i campaigned on.
That’s a lot of scumbags.
About 25%.
342 million x 0.25 = 85.5 million
Don’t get it twisted, white Latinos voted for exactly that, delusionally thinking that the only ones who would be harassed and deported were Latinos less white than them. They’re only opposed more because they found out that the WASPs didn’t consider them white the hard way.
asians: vietnamese, and some chinese in florida too. asian people are next after hispanics.
Yup. Shit got pretty bad under Covid as it was. But I can see that happening next, although I doubt blacks are going to be overlooked… I suppose all the attacks on DEI and trying to get universities and companies to change all their hiring and teaching policies is part of it already.
alot of them turned to trump over covid. University have thier own problems way before the pandemic, covid just worsened it. low job prospects, causing enrollment issues(at least for state universities in cali), example for stem not much resources going to expanding lab works for bio students, which is the most important part of the degree anyways, bad advice from overworked professors that are reluctant to "advise"students. university problems are a symptom of a much larger problem.(trump+ covid definitely unraveled it more). the state uni i went to sources quite alot of students from a nearby CCollege(which decided that to make thier core classes equivalent to what berkely UC wanted, and you can see the fallout of that directive, if you were to take a equivalent course at any other state, you wont face the same difficulty as of that CCollege courses(mostly stem, and english)
Which I really don’t get. We’re called WASP for a reason. It’s not just because it’s “white Anglo Saxon protestant” it’s because we’re scary in any amount.
Like shit, I’m far more terrified of other WASPs than any other categories of people.
(Well, ok I guess technically I’m not protestant anymore, but I consider being raised that way enough.)
I went to high school in the mountains of WNC and we had a few Cuban families and They still live in the west of Asheville area and they a hardcore MAGAites to the point of them endorsing P2025 to my face at a big class reunion about a year and a half ago. I saw one of them a about 3 months ago and he was still going on about getting all the illegals out of here. I understand his parents came here to get away from Castro but they want to pull up the ladder behind them. The Hmong are the same. I live in a big Hong area now and fuck me they are fucking rabidly conservatives Trump voters.
25% is on the low end of the Hopeless Dipshit Constant™, i.e. 25 to 33%.
Ugh, this is like the whole tipping thing. Used to be that it was 10%, now it’s 25-33%?
There has always been a big undertow of awful anti-intellectualism/conservatism in this country. Only twenty-five percent is probably being optimist.
conservatives as a whole still support him. are they all maga, republican hispanics?
Churches be pushing their political views on these believers. I spoke to one of them when the ice shit started and he was defending Trump under the guise of a libertarian. So after a while of arguing and pointing out his don’t thread on me argument and knowing hes a church person, I said is this what Jesus would do? He just said oh my gooood trying to make it look like he wasn’t getting through to me and was stuck without a comeback.
25% of Hispanics still approve of Trump? Holy hell, I thought 2020 showed us how stupid humans can be, but this is on a whole other level!
They’re the “fuck you, I got mine” people that will be shocked when they ultimately turn on them.
Anyone who votes for Trump who is not a millionaire is an idiot, but anyone who is not a white male really is fucking stupid.
Millionaire isn’t even enough to benefit from the grift! Basically middle class.
You have to have tens of millions to have come out on top here…
So many dumb people.
Americans are on a whole new level
Some of my cousins are incredibly stupid people who watch Fox News all day.
They were given worms or they were asked at gunpoint?
It’s F’d up propaganda, and some cultural differences, that led these communities to vote the way they did.
- Some Latin cultures want leaders that talk tough, the “machismo” to crack skulls and “get things done.”
- Some are very religious, and were taken in by the Right’s monopoly on religious propaganda and “morality.”
- Many fled countries and leaders that claimed to be socialist, but were just awful authoritarian kleptocracies with a shitty veneer of socialism for the people. A country with few resources or those resources are financially captured by major western industry (like oil) and most of the profits go to the leaders. Thanks again to Right Wing propaganda associating any Democrat or social policy with socialism, the minorities FUD voted for the Right because “liberal socialists are evil”.
- Sometimes they’re just uneducated assholes that can’t look past #1, just like our reich wing, and choose the least effort, lowest thought, solution to a problem…violence, strong-arm tactics, “simple” solutions.
Five: culture war bullshit, which social media started to push for engagement and potential benefits reasons (the CEOs got pretty pissed off at progressives for not welcoming genAI with open arms, and only the right with its anti-intelectualism was accepting of it), and otherwise unchallenging to most of the status quo.
Six: the voters’ wager: politicians obviously lie, so there’s a non-zero chance it’ll be all better.
Don’t forget the “fuck you, got mine” mentality, as once they make it, they’ll try to beat off others from coming in to be naturalized then trying to have the same privileges they have.
Man … what could have happened? Certainly not the exact thing that he said he would do. No, can’t be that.
No shit Sherlock. The death camps tend to upset people who get targeted by the secret police.
The question is why the broad community didn’t see this coming, to such a large degree.
Anecdotal from the Mexicans I know that voted for him, I think a lot of people convinced themselves that he was only going to go after the “illegal” by THEIR definition Hispanics; Guatemalans and Venezuelans that are bad at “working hard” and it was going to free up resources for their hard working, attempting access via legal means, family members to enter. I tried to explain why this wouldn’t be the case but it fell upon too many deaf ears. Your anecdotal evidence might vary from mine though!
My sister in law worked among a lot of Latinos for various jobs, and one of the first culture shock moments was when she realized how many slurs were casually thrown around, between the various groups, depending on who was a first-wave immigrant, and where they came from, etc.
She speaks Spanish fairly fluently, and knows a bit of Portuguese, but looks like a typical suburban white lady, so many things were said within earshot when she was first on the job, LOL.
So what you are saying seems like something that definitely tracks. People probably just thought that “other group” is going to be targeted, but not us, we’re from the right country, we voted Republican, or we’ve been here first, etc…when the truth of the matter is that someone like Stephen Miller just sees brown people speaking a foreign language, in “his” country, and wants them ALL gone. Even the citizens.
Especially when he openly said it was coming, over and over again.
I know Trump lies a lot, but when he says he’s going to do something that causes pain to everyone but himself, he’s generally telling the truth about that.
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It never should have gotten here… I’m incredibly disappointed in Hispanic voters, especially males, SMH.
Many were folks who came here via some “legal” means who looked at those crossing during Biden and resented them. That hatred of folks just trying to find a better life now has an entire gestapo ready to arrest and deport anyone who looks too brown to be in American.
They thought that all that paperwork made them whole in the Republican eyes. They thought those words saying they were a citizen was enough to made confessed racist look the other way. But an administration that doesn’t care about the law, doesn’t care about what status a sheet of paper says.
That’s what’s so crazy about letting your hate get to you. That hate comes back to bite you.
Yes, they let themselves get deluded by a strong man with an ego the size of Jupiter. All of this was painfully obvious to those that barely paid attention. This is what hate gets you, only more hate.
Sadly this is the same the world over.
In the lead up to Brexit, UKIP had a startling number of foreign names on its roster of candidates. Immigrants and children of immigrants, who were so keen to pull the ladder up behind them and be treated by others as a “true” native, that they devoted serious time and energy to making it happen. They don’t like seeing other immigrants because they involuntarily project their own feelings about those immigrants as outsiders, back onto themselves.
I remember back when Priti Patel was Foreign Secretary she was interviewed about her proposed new immigration policy and had to admit that under her rules her own parents wouldn’t have been allowed in the country.
You’re saying they essentially wanted to yank up the ladder after themselves? classic conservatives.
They thought they were white.
they think it makes them white, because they 'european descent like whites", for asians they think if they act white enough(being religious and super-conservative(at least for viet people) or look white enough they will be accepted.
The majority of then grew up in a cult and would never vote for a woman. They have spent their lives in a fantasy world and only react now that reality rudely bumps into them.
blacks, asians, muslims men went for trump. via roegan, jordan peterson and other right wing grifters that assisted them into the manosphere.
STOP. LUMPING. BLACK. MEN. IN. WITH. THESE. SELLOUTS.
Black men were the LARGEST male group to vote for Harris. Im sick of ppl trying to claim otherwise.
Edit; also dont act like men only sold out the country. Trump’s second largest voting block was WHITE WOMEN
A majority of White people voted for Trump (men and women) three elections in a row. Its unusual to treat the largest demographic in the county as a foregone conclusion and direct all ire at minority groups as a whole.
By all means, ire towards anyone that voted for Trump is acceptable but perhaps we should talk about who keeps voting for him over and over again.
or perhaps making generalizations about people based on race and sex is the inherent logical flaw of racism and sexism even if you feel you have the moral high ground.
trying to find who to point the finger at is the conservative solution. the problem lies deeper. it’s in our social media, our news, our socio-economic struggles, and our culture of “rugged individualism”.
like yes, the racism was always there but it was waning before billionaires got their claws into our social media feeds. and that issue goes WAAAAAY beyond America.
just like when Trump was crazy for saying covid was a hoax aimed at him even though it affected the whole world, it would be crazy to blame this GLOBAL shift to right wing authoritarianism on any one race. are white people responsible for modi?
blaming white people or men could only possibly serve to Make people angry. it’s not a solution oriented approach unless you’re willing to go full genocide.
-a white male who despises Trump among others and has worked hard to fight against him and is tried of somehow still getting blamed.
I’ve been seeing more “this minority demographic is to blame” from so called white liberals so I feel its important to challenge that notion and make it clear that the majority demographic has put their support behind Trump for three consecutive elections. In fact the majority of the majority demographic has voted for the Republican candidate since the civil rights act passed in 1964. Minorities are the only reason we’ve had any Democrats in the White House since then.
I agree with you generally. Pointing fingers is not a productive long term strategy. The only complicating factor here is that there are a sizable number of Trump supporters that are also Christian nationalists. Its hard to counter a racial supremacist ideology while ignoring race.
My philosophy is that looking at such data and recognizing trends is important in understanding how/why we got here but applying generalizations to an individual based on data is unproductive and reductive. I don’t think all Hispanic people are responsible for Trump’s election, nor are all White people.
Let’s get real, fellow White man who voted Blue. We’re a minority. For everyone like you and me, three more people who look like us voted for the shitgibbon and his merry band of miscreants. In a country with 95 million people counted as White males (who are NOT Hispanic), that’s 56 million White dudes who think the Shitgibbon is on their side. And when we include Hispanics? Well, all of the 6 million idiots who voted for Trump thinking they would be counted among the good ones because they thought their Whiteness overcame their Hispanicness? They’re in the Finding Out phase.
All you can do is say “Hey, I voted Clinton in 2016, Biden in 2020, and Harris in 2024. It’s not my fault 56 million people who look like me shared a single brain cell and elected that shithead into office.” Do what you can to help people survive in the Shitgibbon Era.
my point isn’t that the stats are wrong. my point is that pointing fingers gets us nowhere. the point is that we need to look at the actual issues and not focus on identity politics, but i guess I’m fighting against every dollar that every billionaire pumps into every piece of media when i say that.
we’re all being whipped into a frenzy and probably going to kill each other over it. it will probably only make everything much worse.
like yes, the racism was always there but it was waning before billionaires got their claws into our social media feeds
I stopped reading after this. Racism was waning my ASS. White America voted OVER 50% for that jackass while being the largest voting block in the country. It’s white ppls fault.
How the hell do you fix anything when you ignore with whom the problem lies? White ppl are the ones who are overwhelmingly conservative regardless of class and education. Everyone else has this shit figured out except for a few dumbass latinos who thought they were white and are QUICKLY realizing they’re not
you don’t have to ignore with whom the problem lies, you have to keep going.
that’s not the end of the puzzle. that’s not a solution. it’s only anger and blame. demographics aren’t a goal or an answer. they are a guidepost with which we can do further research.
pointing fingers does nothing. we need ACTIONABLE solutions. otherwise you’re just spreading hate and division. the who is useful to figure out the how and why. but if you stop there all you’re going to do is incite blood feuds.
ok, so WHAT’S THE SOLUTION.
if it fully falls to the feet of a race and i an to blame, what’s the solution?
reeducation camps?
people’s skin color didn’t make them this way. to believe that IS racism. no matter what direction it’s pointed.
I’m not saying white people didn’t vote overwhelmingly for Trump. I’m not saying it’s not their fault. I’m saying that assigning fault is inherently the wrong strategy. it’s not a solution oriented mindset. it’s just anger.
so, that’s why i say we need to focus on the HOW and the WHY not the WHO. yes, the who can help us understand the how and why, but it’s not the end of the path. it’s just lazy to get to “the white people did it” and stop.
and would you seriously argue that racism hasn’t gotten worse in america since 2015? because as bad as it might have been, it’s gotten so much worse. the political right finally figured out the internet and are using it to turn as all against each other.
or maybe many white people are just ok being racist
tired of having to tiptoe around it
#murderedbybargraph
So 70% of voters in the USA are white and people think it’s the other groups that won Trump the election?
COVID-19-driven inflation under Biden. Inflation is very unpopular.
BS, if they cared about inflation they shouldn’t have voted for Trump. Every news org and political correspondent was adamant in letting folks know he’d have a negative effect on the economy. “Tax breaks for the rich” were hammered over and over. At the end of the day we deserve this though. Unfortunately now it needs to be painful for the public to wake up, and that sucks for us all.
Every country holding elections In 2024 saw incumbents losing seats
Hope they enjoy the change they wanted
The thing is, political parties and candidates need enthusiasm to win, mearly being not the worst option doesn’t work as a strategy
Nope. Don’t care. Don’t give chicken fried fuck. They were warned but still voted to condemn everyone else because thought they were the “good ones.”
Have the life you fucking voted for
reminds me of that jon stewart daily show segment where he showed a group of latinos who are leaning republican trump’s clips of talking shit about them, and when asked if they will still vote for him, they said yes…
I tried so hard to convince some of my fellow Mexicans the repercussions of voting for Trump, I even passed them a copy of the Project 2025 playbook. They still voted for him and are dumbfounded that ICE is dragging them away. Fuck 'em is all I can say.
I mean, in 2016 he literally campaigned on a platform of keeping Mexicans out of the US. It’s wild that any Mexicans in the US can see that and go “he’ll be the person to do what’s best for me!”
In the first term he just was terrible to those trying to cross the border. If you were already in, his first term was largely nothing if you don’t care about others.
This term has been going after people already here, and rounding up and us citizens and looking to remove legal status for those that have it.
Every single racial minority that supported Trump should be forced to donate their bodies to science whenever they die.
That way we can find out what type of brain tumor causes someone to become the ultimate, unceasingly submissive bitch/cuck.
It’s lead. I’m sure it’s lead. Decades of lead poisoning from gasoline is the reason.
The one I know definitely has Agent Orange exposure in Vietnam. Then again, he bragged about his war crimes to me as a kid, so we was always a cruel person.
Leading up to the election:
Frantically trying to explain that if you put your hand in the fire, you’re going to get burnt.
The election:
“Stupid snowflake librul cuk! Would it trigger you if I do… this!?” puts hand in fire
Since election:
“Ow! My hand!!” 😢
It was an open book test here. At least people breaking off with him. I guess lol.
