ITT: people supporting torture and violence against tech entrepreneurs because of post-hoc political justifications.
These comments are operating under the hypothetical premise that it is literally a human consciousness. They’re essentially describing what they want to do to people if there were no legal consequences. It’s very revealing in many ways.
It’s like the mentality of a terrorist breeding ground here. Yikes.
Tech bros literally destroying the very planet we live in, causing untold misery… you quiet
A meme about them maybe facing consequences in the far future… you: pearl clutching
sit this one out
Downloading your consciousness next have fun being a Minecraft villager.
ps, Modding Elon’s consciousness to play with in KSP does sound fun
It’s an impossible premise, and it will remain that way for even the speculatively distant future. People riffing off that is not a sign of the moral failing of lemmy, you need to calm down.
Idk if legal consequences were any “moral” these people would’ve been punished for appearing on the epstein list.
Guys. You know what I would do in this scenario? It involves swimming pools and no ladders.
wasn’t it no bridges?
Too slow, too kind.
They think they’re going to live on their island fortresses with an army of slave robots, and the occasional actual slave.
They think the LLM hallucination problem will be ironed out in a couple of years.
They think longevity drug therapy is just a few years away.
I think they’re very wrong. They can throw all the money and electricity they want at these two fantasies, and they will remain fantasies. Unfortunately, we’re going to let them beat us all to hell over this… until we won’t anymore.
They know they’re in a race against an uprising, they just think they’re going to win this time.
They think the LLM hallucination problem will be ironed out in a couple of years.
That one is a tad more realistic than uploading human consciousness.
not unless they pivot on the basic principles of the LLM’s, instead of attempting to force a square peg into a circle hole.
What kids like i want my character to be a seditious pedofile narcissist who is trying to dismantle democracy, dismantle the education system, take away women’s rights, build a mass surveillance AI to subjugate all of humanity and ultimately end up hiding in a bunker when humanity either turns on them or they unleash some kind of evil depopulation plan. Fun. I don’t get how they don’t understand that they are the villain
They watched 80s and 90s Saturday morning cartoons and thought the bad guys were actually the good guys with good plans of bringing law and order to a chaotic world and the good guys were the bad guys because they did woke shit like have token female/non-white characters and did things like help people without demanding a 50 year contract and ownership of their children.
I’d put them into a boilerplate game where there is just a green floor and blue sky and 1 skeleton that doesn’t do anything but you can hit it.
but you can hit itBUT IT CAN HIT YOU
Can we please not accidentally Bobiverse these creeps, this sounds far too similar. Worst possible ending for humanity
Mpreg here we go!
Pretty optimistic to think we’ll be able to upload and downloaded consciousness in the next 25 years.
If even possible, it’d be centuries. Chances are everyone alive today will go the same route as every other human who has ever lived.
We can do it today. Its shit but you can do it.
No we can’t.
I suppose to some extent, what is it to download consciousness? An LLM trained off someone would be like a pretty shit version of that.
Its basically this book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32109569-we-are-legion-we-are-bob
My grandma has a dog named Bob and I can’t look at this and not imagine a dog doing these stuff.
If you like this kind of read also check out Fall; Or Dodge in Hell
Well worth a read, especially if you like Andy Weir.
Better than most of Andy Weir’s books. Even tho bob is a bit of a Mary Sue.
Very much enjoyed the whole series.
There is a lot of it also in a Black Mirror Episode - USS Calllister.
I think it is also the only episode with two parts.
There is also the show “Upload” which is about a digital afterlife once you die.
What was that Sim Sisyphean home design that was floating around the internet a while back? The guy ha designed a home for the Sim that basically took forever to exit via a circuitous hedgerow or something that the occupant could never quite make it out of to get to work, and would have to turn around and trudge all the way back through the circle to home, only to have almost next to no time to sleep and eat before it was time to get up and begin the hopeless trudge to work again.
Yeah.
Good place for those personalities.
That is too creative. More than they deserve. Just have a simple swimming pool with no ladder… then bring them back to life and repeat.
I want to get off of Mr. Bones’ Wild Ride
Sounds like something GrayStillPlays would do.
Idk, there’s the Cracked juggalo experiment to rerun
Sounds like something Let’s Game It Out would do. They very often make silly things like that.
Nah, he only made a living, enclosed gallery composed of the entire neighborhood in front of Keanu Reeves’ toilet, which happens to be 2 feet away from his kids’ bed. Truly breathtaking
This is extremely farfetched. Surely in 2050 we’re finally using zstd or something else better than gzip.
Surely the .mind format would already be compressed, like JPEGs or PNGs.
You’ll get a .7z wrapped inside of a .rar and you’ll like it.
If it kinda-works why would anyone fix it? (See: microsoft windows, literally everything in the US)
“If it doesn’t work, then you come so far without it already so just continue as usual.”
- USA
Me trapping Sam Altman in a pool with no ladder
I’d be a bit more hands on, forcing him to do certain tasks and when he’s about to reach the item, enter buy mode, misplace the thing, unpause.
There should be a few billionaires trapped together. After all, leaving them without anything to eat would just be mean.
4 walls. No windows, no doors, no toilet…
Whenever I see this post, I think of this short story. I don’t see it linked here yet, so here ya go.
(Wrong copy linked, updated)
That was a great story, thanks for sharing. I love how the voice of the article sounds exactly like I’d expect from the kind of article we might read today. It reminded me a little of the 1972 “Lenna image” of Lena Forsén in Playboy that was frequently used for illustrating image processing algorithms (a practice that is now banned in most relevant journals.
I also liked how the story mentioned fiction about brain uploading. That was very meta, and I enjoyed it to an unreasonable degree.
Oh! I bet that’s where the name of the thing comes from! If you go back into the link, Lena is at the top of the page, and the original draft shared the name.
Thanks for that added context!
This is brilliant. It reminds of those asklemmy questions, “If you could Google one thing from the future”, or in this case read one Wikipedia page from the future. Obviously I wouldn’t know to find this page, but it reads about a world I, living now, don’t understand.
ah sweet man made horrors beyond my understanding
Oh my God that is horrifying. Reminds me of “I have no mouth and I must scream”
Great story, I thought of this too. What I like about this story is that so much of the horror is implied.
excerpt
MMAcevedo’s demeanour and attitude contrast starkly with those of nearly all other uploads taken of modern adult humans, most of which boot into a state of disorientation which is quickly replaced by terror and extreme panic. Standard procedures for securing the upload’s cooperation such as red-washing, blue-washing, and use of the Objective Statement Protocols are unnecessary. This reduces the necessary computational load required in fast-forwarding the upload through a cooperation protocol
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MMAcevedo develops early-onset dementia at the age of 59 with ideal care, but is prone to a slew of more serious mental illnesses within a matter of 1–2 subjective years under heavier workloads. In experiments, the longest-lived MMAcevedo underwent brain death due to entropy increase at a subjective age of 145.
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Towards the end of his life, as it became possible to run simulated humans in banks of millions at hundred-fold time compression, Acevedo indicated that being uploaded had been the greatest mistake of his life, and expressed a wish to permanently delete all copies of MMAcevedo.
!I agree. I think the technical tone of the story was great for keeping that eerie distance that makes the reader do the work of understanding the horror.
I found the time bit most creepy. When it first mentions about telling him what date it was, I felt unnerved because at that point, I had no way to know how long after the initial upload this piece was written from, in narrative. The sense of disorientation from this made me empathise even harder with MMAcevedo.
I think probably the part I found most horrifying was the bit discussing the kinds of work that MMAcevedo is useful for. I know a lot of people who work in research — enough that I know that academic nerds like Acevedo tend to find menial, repetitive work that doesn’t engage their brains to be especially soul destroying. But I suppose that’s the benefit of MMAcevedo right? No need to worry about destroying a person’s soul if they’re not a person, and they (are legally considered to) lack a soul. !<
You should put that in a spoiler tag :)
Really? OK… btw any idea why it’s called “Lena”?
Another comment gave probable context for that :)
ooh that makes sense, thanks!
No idea on the naming, I haven’t really looked into the author or their writing beyond this tbh. However if you click on the links at the top, it takes you through more of their work and author info, it might be buried there somewhere.
And the spoiler request is just because it’s really not that long and those are the juicy bits ;) I think it’s way more impactful inside the greater context, but I mean maybe I’m wrong on that, and have weird preferences.
Man, that was a depressing reading
It is. If you like the concept though, the animated show Pantheon starts similarly, but goes an entirely different depressing direction :)
I disagree,
Pantheon
I think Pantheon goes in a very pleasant and inspiring direction. After going in a depressing direction first of course
So, it’s Gray Matters with more computers.
I’ve not read it; any good?
It’s definitely of its era, and I’d describe it more as memorable than good. I think it was a stylistic exercise by the author.
I would torrent any of them. Then I’d mod them into palworld so they can work to death while my pals chill in the japanese terms.
I would mod 'em in minecraft villagers. This is all i can say, my lawyer said to not continue.
Force them to trade for low prices with that metod
Hahaaa, I’d mod them into fun Rimworld characters.
Oh no, Jeff was hit by a space junk while building his simple rocket and lost his leg! And Elon is there, on ketamine aaaand he overdosed by smoking a blunt and is lying unconscious. And all the robo cat droids broke down so no one can save them. Damn you Randy.
I think Elon could make it with one lung one kidney one arm and one leg and being drained of blood regularly
Oh yes, the “one” character. Juste one of everything!
Under rated game
I was thinking upload them into a twink femboy fuck doll but your idea is good too.
Normally I don’t kink shame, but ew. Twink femboys are one thing, but getting it on with tech bro consciousnesses is where I have to draw the line!
I think putting peter thiel into the body of a cum powered maid bot would be ethical and good
Too much risk he might like it, and more importantly, unethical to find somebody to supply the cum. The fundamental issue here is not whether he deserves the humiliation, it’s the collateral damage in inflicting it.
What other reason would he have to upload his consciousness but that?
what did twink femboy fuck dolls ever do to deserve that?
It doesn’t even matter what you do to them. You can torture them forever and you can choose whether they can remember or not.
A better hell of their own making I cannot think of.
Thanks for the reminder to never, ever do something like this. My consciousness dies with me.
