Another Trumper full of regret.

  • Yeller_king@reddthat.com
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    3 hours ago

    A lot of people will just support the populist in the race regardless of their ideology or whether their proposed policies make any sense.

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    This is good.

    Odds are she 8s the kind of person who has spent most of her life voting for Democrats to save her from Republicans and Republicans to save her from Democrats when they’re two sides of the same coin.

    The sooner people learn to break out of that, the better things will be.

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    14 hours ago

    I hate how it can take literally having your choices fuck you over to get some people to change.

    I despise how more people have their choices fuck them over and then double, triple, and quad down on them.

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      I think what’s really sad about Trumpism and similar surges of right wing support in other countries is that I get where it’s coming from — many of these people were already thoroughly fucked over by things they had no choice over. And then they’re so desperate for change that they vote for things that fuck them over even harder. We need more politicians like Mamdani

      Edit: typo

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    23 hours ago

    Oh look, it’s yet another one of those socialist <-> Trump “anything but the status quo” crossover voters that neoliberal Democrats deny exist. Tell me again about how Bernie couldn’t have won and it was essential to laser-focus on the “moderates.”

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      11 hours ago

      Aren’t most US Americans immigrants if you just go back in time long enough?
      Hell, even Native Americans must’ve immigrated somewhen.
      It’s all about ‘I got mine, fuck you!’ attitude.

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      14 hours ago

      Of course! Do you know who was also an immigrant? Mary Anne MacLeod who was married to, and had children with, Fred Trump who was himself a first-generation American.

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      22 hours ago

      For her, it’s just who ever most recently said a thing she liked vs who who ever is in charge and can be blamed for all the things she doesn’t like. She’s probably never met a government official she couldn’t blame for a cloud blocking her sunlight, and never met a politician that lies if the things they’re saying sound nice.

      PS. That’s not aimed at Mamdani, just Shirley Wong and those who behave like her.

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      22 hours ago

      It’s almost like conservatives have spent decades chipping away at education specifically so that people wouldn’t have critical thinking skills and could be treated like cattle.

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      22 hours ago

      More likely she grew up in an environment where this type of thinking was normalized, and to think otherwise was met with social consequences. Outside of a few breakout individuals, most have to be taught early not to take what they’re told for granted.

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    23 hours ago

    It’s not surprising…

    When “moderates” run one party, the other party goes further in the other direction to compensate.

    So when neoliberals took the Dem party to the right. And people stopped getting helped by them, they turned to the only other option.

    Biden and Kamala doubling down and insisting that everything was great made that even worse.

    Because for the vast amount of Americans, shit is not ok.

    It was harder to believe Biden/Kamala lying that everything was fine than it was to believe Trump’s lies about whose fault it was. To a lot of people what mattered is trump admitted shit needed to be fixed, and Biden/Kamala couldn’t (or wouldn’t) do that

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      23 hours ago

      Democrats spent four years fixing shit and the American public fell for lies from the guy who wrecked most of it.

      There’s no way to fix that kind of stupidity.

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        23 hours ago

        Democrats spent four years fixing shit

        That’s not how the vast majority of Americans viewed 2020-2024…

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          22 hours ago

          and the American public fell for lies from the guy who wrecked most of it.

          I don’t have a high opinion of the majority of Americans right now.

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            22 hours ago

            Well, it doesn’t matter what your opinion of them is…

            This is (pretty much) a democracy so what the majority (of states) wants is what matters.

            And they don’t believe the turtles pace of 80 year old neoliberals is fast enough.

            We can stomp our feet and call them names, or we can push for progressives willing to fix shit fast enough that it has a noticeable result to even the average American…

            Don’t forget, that’s always been an option.

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              22 hours ago

              Americans have consistently shown they don’t want a progressive or socialist.

              You’re going to point out Mamdani and I’m going to point out he hasn’t won yet.

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                  20 hours ago

                  You’re going to point out Mamdani and I’m going to point out he hasn’t won yet.

                  If progressives are so popular why is Sanders and AOC the only ones in their party?

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                22 hours ago

                You’re going to

                Realize I’m talking to a less than day old alt of an account I probably blocked a year ago…

                Have fun moderating one of the fedivers’s only conservative communities!

        • shalafi@lemmy.world
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          22 hours ago

          Watching Mamdani interview Trump voters really woke me.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7FcVCYqQNs

          People can’t see past the tip on their nose and vote on what’s in their wallet today. I’ve had people tell me they voted for President by comparing their tax returns.

          The BBB is so much worse than we’re talking about. A lot of American’s will get a few hundred, maybe $2,000, more back and say, “That Trump fella’s the man for me!”

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            Yep. Which is why Biden backing out of those Covid relief checks was stupid.

            Republicans don’t give a fuck about balancing the budget, everything Biden spent on social projects would have been less money for the shit trump is doing today.

            That’s my whole point, we need a Dem president that will overwhelming help Americans rather than a cold calculating capitalist whose aim is to help just enough to get re-elected.

            Moderate policy is not effective and it never has been. The Clinton years rode the dotcom boom and claimed it was because of backwards ass policy and it took the DNC 30 years to realize, luckily they did a couple months ago when voting for chair.

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          19 hours ago

          Yes and their unawareness of employment numbers going up, prices stabilizing, companies being prosecuted for price fixing and profiteering, consumer rights being strengthened, unions being strengthened, etc, is in large part the fault of the media (and yes a fair bit fault of the party who couldn’t tell anybody what they were doing).

          Things were getting better, and people’s view of the economy ended up being extremely wildly distorted from the real numbers by the end, people were fearful over nothing because media boosted the fear campaign from Republicans.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            19 hours ago

            Yes and their unawareness

            You can blame millions of people for not taking a slightly better choice, or devote your energy to making sure their next choice is overwhelmingly easier.

            One makes you feel superior to others, the other makes life better for everyone.

            One is a co.plete and utter waste of time, the other literally saves lives.

            Which one do you want to pick?

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    22 hours ago

    his support for education and affordable housing.

    WTF? When has Trump ever said anything even close to that?

    Edit: I can’t read.