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obligatory firearm safety reminder:
- rule one is “keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire”
- rule two is “never point the weapon at anything you are not willing to destroy”
- rule three is “always treat any weapon as though it is loaded”
- rule four is “know your target and what lays beyond it”
only by holding each other accountable can we make sure that everyone stays safe and has fun.
My grandpa who takes me shooting was going over the firearm safety rules and with rule two I was like “that seems extreme” and his response it’s supposed to be, a gun killing or injuring or damaging isn’t as vivid as the word destroy
And yeah for me the other rules kinda seemed a given, bullets move fast and possibly through our hanging rubber targets, the gun probably can’t fire if you don’t give it a squeeze, and as for loaded better safe than sorry.
These rules seemed almost obvious to me, and yet there’s all these guys at the range behaving like absolute idiots
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I don’t get America, a place where you can walk around with a weapon that has no purpose other than to cause harm
Some context here: this is almost certainly a gun store, and this is going to be from the check-in station for when people come to jlhave their guns worked on, a holster fitted, or for gun sales.
I used to work an a major outdoors store and we’d have dozens of customer-owned guns come in a day, and we’d find a round in the chamber a few times a year, and we have them hell over it every time. We also had jar of shame like this one.
The worst that I experienced was when I was mounting a scope on a 300 Win Mag. The rifle was checked in up front, made it through 2 salesmen who helped them select a scope, and then to me for the mounting.
I had the customer shoulder the gun so I could find their eye position, got the appropriate mounts, and took the gun to the back and spent some time.mounting everything.
When everything was mounted properly, the optic zeroed with the bore scope (good enough to hit paper at 100 yards), and the gun ready to go I worked the action to check clearance on the bolt and a nickel-plated round was ejected. The guy at the gun check-in had seen the color of the jacket and assumed it was the magazine follower (they’re supposed to che k more thoroughly, and the next 3 of us in line did the same quick visual check and were fooled by the silver color.
My asshole was puckered for a week, and when I reported the incident to the firearm department manager he threw a shifting at everyone involved (including the customer), but let me off easy since I reported the incident and he could see how shaken I was.
But it also was a great demonstration of the importance of the rules of gun safety. Even though we all “knew” the gun was unloaded, there wasn’t any real danger since we all still treated it like it was loaded at all times.
Safety requires multiple layers. With the 4 rules (treat all guns as if they are loaded, do not point the gun at anything you aren’t willing to kill or destroy, be aware of your target and what’s behind your target, and keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire), you can screw up on any 3 of the rules without anyone being injured.
It’s for killing MAGA. Washington and his friends were worried people would try to create tyranny, so they made sure Americans all had guns to kill the people who do that.
The amendment was actually added at the insistence of slaver states to ensure they would have well armed militias to hunt down escaped slaves and put down any slave rebellions.
Then why’d they add “being necessary to the security of a free State”?
You see, we might just need to cause death at any moment, one never knows, there’s too much life around all the time. Someone’s gotta keep that in check.
FFS I can watch you clear a firearm and the first thing I will do is clear it when handed to me or I pick it up at the range.
Always assume it’s loaded. It’s not hard.
I have watched a fat dude with a beard turn a ping pong ball into an orange using nothing but a solo cup and a quick wit. I do not trust, I only verify.
How?
same. people think they’re smarter than themselves.
How do we make people feel stupid again?!
Put lots of hot objects around saying “Do not touch: hot”.
Rubics cube without google and you don’t know how to solve it.
lobotomy?
See they would be stupider, but I’m not sure they’d gain any level of awareness.
In the social media age it seems like everyone’s opinion seems just as valid, so there’s no reality check on how dumb you actually are.
It’s like how you think you can fight, then go to an MMA gym and get man handled and then come to realization you can’t fight at all.
so lobotomy at an mma gym then
I’m not a gun person so maybe I was just fooled by a video. I also probably don’t use the right terms so forgive me.
But it was awhile back; one video I saw of a guy showing how he was clearing the chamber of a pistol. Pulled it back from a full clip and counted each one. He counted 8 (which was expected for the size). Kept clearing it while nothing came out. Asked the viewer “Clear? Nope. Did you notice what’s wrong”?
Pulls the gun back to show the bullet still visually in the chamber.
Apparently it was a pistol with a recall or common issue of not correctly clearing the last round. He had an additional bullet chambered at the start so he counted the clip size but the pistol had 9 rounds initially with one still completely capable of firing at the end.
Like, he literally pulled it back and cleared it like 20 additional times. Bullet still just sitting there at the end.
Will try to find the video.
A faulty extractor would easily cause this issue. That’s why you also have to visibly inspect the chamber. A round would be easily visible while the slide is back.
ALWAYS treat every gun as if it is loaded
Yeah, it sounds like a malfunction. It should clear by racking the slide until nothing comes out, but ALWAYS verify by checking the chamber.
Acts and prove, acts and prove.
Every gun you see is always loaded.
This is clearly a lie, but is a useful lie that if you live by will make yourself as well as others safer around guns.
Better way to word it is: “Treat every gun as if it is loaded”
Followed with:
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Never aim your weapon at anything you do not intend to destroy.
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Keep your trigger finger straight and along the receiver until you intend to fire your weapon.
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Keep your weapon on safe until ready to fire.
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Be aware of your target, your surroundings, and what lies beyond your target.
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Disagree. Every firearm I’ve ever handled has been loaded.
Sure, sometimes I’m wrong, but even a hint of “well it might not be loaded” seems like a dangerous slippery slope.
There is a fallacy named after this.
If you treat loaded and unloaded guns with the same safety, you don’t have to lie.
It’s no use reasoning with people who would rather be correct than be safe.
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Take a bullet, leave a bullet
I can’t tell you how many times this has saved me at checkout.
Wow you must encounter some really aggressive cashiers
I dunno about aggressive, they seem pretty courteous to me
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If you aren’t condition 4 when entering, I’ll meet you at condition 0.
Rule #0 of firearm safety: Trust no one.
not even myself from an hour ago! or 5 minutes ago! Every single time one is picked up it is checked
Never trust the last person, especially if the last person was you.
Nope, Rule #0 is: have no gun.
Ammmeeeeriiiiicaaaaa
What the fuck are Americans doing?
I’m no expert on their citizenry, but on average, probably the same fucking shit you or I are doing.
“Well organized” “militia”
I ask myself this everyday
Even from just movies and video games, I know to empty the breech and not just take out the magazine.
At the same time: It should be treated as loaded 100% of the time even if you just 100% fully unloaded it.
I go the extra mile and treat it as loaded even after taking it apart. Never know when the barrel tube might go rogue.
Yep. When I check my rifling I do so from the back of the barrel lol.
Ding ding ding. If you can see light when looking up the barrel through the breech/chamber, your weapon is very likely to be clear.
American things.
the perspective of this pic makes some of those rounds look like grenades
I’ve had multiple people try and hand me a gun saying “It’s not loaded.” Let me see you clear it, please. I want to see light down that chamber if I’m going to accept that. Some guys get annoyed, but I once failed a gun safety course as a teen because I forgot to ask as the instructor as he handed me one. I will absolutely never forget that going forward.
My rule is whenever anyone hands me a gun (why do people do that so often?) I always eject the magazine then rack the slide myself to verify. I don’t trust the other guy not to do it too fast and not to have his finger on the trigger
I taught my kids never to touch a gun unless the owner cleared it in front of them and showed them the empty chamber.
My gun and I are always loaded so I would not be going to that store.
Why would you not go to the store that is checking every firearm they handle to see if it’s loaded? If you are handing your weapon to someone else and they aren’t checking to see if it’s loaded, you’re in the wrong place.
Why would you go to a gun store if you aren’t always loaded and ready to fire? Not talking about a gun. (ps: pretty sure they’re making a joke)
Every range I go to here in Texas does NOT permit you to carry inside the store. Even the employees can’t carry. Every gun must be secured in a bag or safe prior to entering your shooting lane.
Edit… didn’t mean to reply directly to you but leaving the comment as a addon to my previous comment
Not a joke I wake up and drink six beers before I strap my shootin’ iron on and head out to start my day.
'Murica
