Are you fucking kidding me…

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    “Most of the 10 the Democrats are considered centrists in the party, and belong to either the Blue Dog Coalition, the New Democrat Coalition or the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus.”

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    “I don’t mind being one of 10 Democrats who said, no, there’s a deeper principle at stake here, which is reverence for this institution,” Himes said after the vote, adding that lawmakers need to act “with the decorum and with the civility that says to the world that we are a serious country.”

    For fuck’s sake!

    That’s exactly the kind of bullshit that shows that conservative Democrats are NOT serious about doing their ACTUAL job of serving and protecting the people, which is more important now than ever.

    In a “serious country”, the outcomes for the people are taken MUCH more seriously than adoration of an ancient and broken system and useless etiquette.

    “I have no love for Donald Trump, but I do have reverence for the Office of the President,” he told CNN’s Pamela Brown

    Here’s how much respect anyone should have for an office: 🖕🖕

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          Cowards?

          Pelosi was pretty brave defending insider trading after someone used her husband to stress test their hammer.

          They aren’t cowards. They’re morons or traitors.

          They aren’t -afraid- to do the right thing.

          They’re afraid of losing money and power. Or worse, they actually think they’re doing a good thing.

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    Fucking cowards.

    Their thinking is that they gotta keep him in his place, I suppose.

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    “…anger is growing among Democrats about Green’s antics — which they believe have consumed headlines and distracted from Trump’s actions”

    I have not heard of any of Green’s antics because Trump’s antics are what’s consuming the headlines. Seriously, what a load of bullshit. I’m increasingly disgusted with Democrats’ lack of response.

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      I haven’t seen a single Democrat (voter, not these ghouls) appear angry about Green. If they even know about it.

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      Not to mention, the democratic base is mostly behind Green, because he’s doing something people are pissed. They want action. They don’t want weak, pathetic, little placard things that trump can’t even read.

      These ten fuckwits need to get fucking primaried. It’s disgraceful. They just sided with fascists against one of their own, because that guy made them look bad.

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    The 10 Democrats who voted with Republicans to censure Green were: Ami Bera of California, Ed Case of Hawaii, Jim Costa of California, Laura Gillen of New York, Jim Himes of Connecticut, Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania, Marcy Kaptur of Ohio, Jared Moskowitz of Florida, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington and Tom Suozzi of New York.

    Democrats are absolutely fucking pathetic.

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          You’re right and you should say it. Progressives in America need to execute a takeover just like the Tea Party did on the right. Primary out every moderate Dem.

          You won’t win em all, but you’ll win enough to fundamentally change the direction of the party.

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            We don’t have to talk about this as a nebulous concept, there are groups that work to run progressives everywhere and they are currently seeing a surge in interest. We can get to work today

            For instance, Run For Something supports progressives under 40 year-old both in primaries and general elections. They have had 26 thousand people sign up for them to run for local and state office since November alone. Jasmine Crockett came through the Run for Something pipeline, so this is not some hypothetical that doesn’t get results. They’ve gotten thousands of progressives elected at the local and state level, we can ramp that up. Consider running for state & local office yourself and encourage any progressive you know to run as well

            Groups like Indivisible are also putting pressure on both Republicans and Dems and starting to get some degrees of success. For instance, they have gotten senate Dems to start using unanimous consent to slow down senate nominees like Russel Vought and RFK (they held the floor for the maximum 30 hours too)

            You will always hear 10x more about the losses than the wins, but please know this is a fight we can win. There are people putting in the work and we can all join them

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            The biggest issue with that is that the Tea Party was an astroturf movement backed by Koch brothers. We already have enough big money in politics. And it would be more beneficial for everyone if the DNC simply dropped off the face of the earth and was replaced by a workers party.

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              Your don’t have to be the Tea Party in order to replicate their success.

              It might be better if you got some glorious new socialist workers party that appeared out of nowhere, but Santa doesn’t have any of those in his sack right now. Work with what you have.

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                What we have is 2 corporate owned parties that will do everything in their power to keep things the same. There is no reforming a corrupt system

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                  What you have is rapidly encroaching fascism. What you need is any solution that gets you out of that.

                  You’re not looking for ideal. You’re looking for workable. You’re going to have a lot more success pushing forward leftist candidates in a party that already has an established base of support than you are in trying to somehow build sufficient momentum for a viable third party in a country that has basically never had viable third parties.

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    Democrats prefer their performative politics like wearing pink and holding up paddle boards. Not actually speaking up against the administration.

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    Oh, but the CIVILITY!

    The Tone Police are here to issue a correction against the Democrat that used the wrong fork at the dinner table. Meanwhile, Bronzo and fElon can do whatever the fuck they want…just boys being boys, oops, I mean, Republicans being Republicans.

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      When push comes to shove and I need to work someone over with a lead pipe, I’ll be sure to extend my pinkie finger so the tone police won’t get upset.

      (Apologies to Rab C).

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      California has had term limits for state office for over a decade now. It hasn’t helped at all. It just gives more power to party bureaucrats and the civil servants at the expense of the electorate. Like almost every other quick fix, it’s worthless.

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      Term limits are an antidemocratic solution to an antidemocratic problem - the problem isn’t incumbent people, which the voters select, it’s incumbent corporate interests, which the voters don’t select.

      Term limits for the legislature would create a revolving door of corporate shills. It takes a couple terms for a legislator to become skilled at the process and learn to make progress on their agenda - and to build a backbone to their donors.

      Ultimately, everything people think would be solved by term limits would actually be solved by eliminating money from politics. We need to greatly diminish the incumbency advantage, which is fueled by money in politics, to give us legislators who have to be accountable to the voters instead of donors.

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        This is an interesting point. Would revoking citizens united solve this the same way?

        I still think term limits could help get new perspectives into politics.

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          I think it would at least return us to how it was before Citizens United, with some amount of constraint on political donations. But I think more is needed to reach the intended effect.

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    7 days ago

    Why do we allow republicans into the democratic party? They do not strengthen the party, only the opposite.