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    If Trump pardons him he still has 20+years of state sentence to finish, this is a distraction….

    They are about to do the biggest grift ever with the tax cuts for the rich.

    All of this is a distraction

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      Yup, same with the tariffs. Drop the stock market by two percent and as the richest person in the world you’ve just invested billions

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    Couldn’t he only be pardoned for the federal level conviction and not the state? Looking at his Wikipedia article, he has a 21 year fed sentence and a 22.5 state.

    But yeah, this is a way to force violent protests and eventually martial law.

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      Maybe it won’t be protests this time and just 30,000 people turning his body into something that doesn’t resemble a human.

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      IIRC, Chauvin made the plea deal on federal charges so that he would do his time in the relative safety of a federal prison.

      Which would mean that if he gets pardoned on federal charges, then he would have to serve out his remaining state time in a state pen… the very thing he wanted to avoid. He would probably be dead in under a month unless he spent the next decade or more in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day (like he did in his pre-trial detention).

      Which would be a crying shame, of course…

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    The fact that Elon Musk is for pardoning someone who murdered an innocent person speaks volumes. Also, I can’t see how this wouldn’t lead to riots.

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      They want riots so they have a reason to put troops on the streets and “come down hard” to please their base.

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      Why haven’t there already been riots? Of all the reasons to start widespread riots, hasn’t the last 2 months given enough of them?

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        Americans are capable of riots, but it seems to require so marination before some trigger event happens on their soil that causes emotions to suddenly spark.

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    Presidential pardons are one of the dumbest powers. Change my mind.

    (Plenty of more stable countries get on fine without it, and don’t have to deal with this nonsense to boot)

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      People lose their shit over jury nullification, yet somehow pardons are A-OK

      Pardons should not be a thing, in my lifetime its pretty much only been used for scummy shit.

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          for all the guns americans have, theyre clearly too cowardly to use them for anything outside of school shootings

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            Exactly. Just shows you what a bunch of pussies they really are. I’d kick so much ass in an elementary or middle school. i wouldn’t even need a gun.

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              You don’t get to watch our local news reports. Plenty of people get smoked every single day by gunfire. Fuck someone’s wife , cut them off in traffic , call them a snitch ,bump into them in a bar, throw snow from your driveway onto theirs 💥💥💥. It could be anything that gets a bunch of new holes added to your meat suit

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                Sure but they all whine they need them for incase government be bad. Now we have a situation and they are all quiet. The only reason Americans need guns is to make the small minded can’t see their own penis men fell powerful. I have never once in my life thought I sure would feel safer with a gun. Ok maybe but not in the city.

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                Is that supposed to prove Americans are not a bunch of cowards? Because it does the opposite.

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            Are you just ignoring all the instances where this statement isn’t true or do those not count because two guys you don’t like are still alive?

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                I’m assuming you’re saying this because no one has killed Trump or Musk yet. That’s sort of nonsensical considering the former has had at least two attempts on his life in the last year. Important people get shot at on a fairly regular basis in America.

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          Does it matter though? The people with the most firearms are the most indoctrinated. And besides that, Americans have always talked about needing the right to bear arms to dispose of a tyrannical government, but it seems like people aren’t even putting in the effort to vote or protest, let alone taking out the fascists. So what exactly is the point of all the guns? Besides the purpose of supplying all the criminals in both Mexico and Canada with illegal weapons

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          A bunch of civilian rifles stand no chance against drones 30k feet in the air dropping guided missiles or the ai controlled murder dog robots they’ve been showcasing the past couple years.

          Plus, what is the disgruntled American town going to do when an abrams rolls down Main Street? They’re just as prepared as afghani villagers when that situation comes to pass.

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        Not saying you’re wrong just want to understand youre thinking why would they want riots? Isnt that the only real threat to them?

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          Triggering division as an excuse for suppression is Dictator 101.

          Your political opponents are lawless? That means you can legally crack down on them.

          It has the side benefit of stirring the shit/divisions which is what keeps Trump in place.

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          trump has been looking to apply the insurrection act since his first term. with the various sycophants in congress and the executive, there has never been a more opportune time (other than tomorrow, of course).

          as to why… well, trump has gotten even more messianic since his first term. suppression of dissent would be a powerplay that may yield significant dividends, showing loyalists the need to stay in the camp and detractors what happens when you resist.

          just my 0.02

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          Enact martial law, take over all legislation, be a dictator. Job done.

          That’s why he’s firing everyone at the top of the military who isn’t a white male.

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    They’re trying to Reichstag fire up their own Reichstag fire. Martial law in America as a toe dip for their invasion of Canada.

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    Elon knows millions of Americans hate him and are coming for him so he wants every single super-villain free to team up together.

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    They just want to cause riots. Trump and Elon are agitators.

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      This. I’m convinced at this point they’re attempting to instigate riots so they can declare material law and seize full control over the US government.

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        I know it a typo, but declaring it, would be the last step of making material law the ultimate authority. Taking Capitalist Fromm late stage to endgame.

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      I agree. This is just intended to cause civil unrest to distract from everything else they’re doing to tear America apart.

      But also, Musk is a Nazi.

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        They are the clowns of the circus. Half the US is trying to figure out who the ring master of the circus is … instead of looking for the guy who owns it.

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    If he gets pardoned I hope that will push the Americans harder to overthrow these sycophants. On the other hand it could be to try to trigger something so Cheeto Mussolini can crack down on the protests with violence.

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      There will be mass protests, looters will take advantage of these times. Martial law will be declared in those places and never given back. Nothing would make them happier

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        If the United States commits their military to enforcing martial law on their own soil then it’ll be more difficult for them to escalate their current economic wars into actual wars.

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          I still have hope in our military. I sincerely hope they’d never follow those orders. I have infinitely more respect for the army than the police.

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    I find it funny how people on the right want the cop who shot that lady during the Jan 6 riot to be punished, yet think Chauvin was in the right…like how can you be so stupid…then again they probably don’t care the cop shot her they care cuz he’s black.

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      One cop shot a minority. One cop shot a Republican. To them one one of the victims is considered human. Take a guess as to which.

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        I kind of wish Chauvin shot Floyd instead of the TORTURE he put that man through. Slowly choking the life out of him as he begged for his life.

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    I think the ultimate goal is martial law, and I think he is unconcerned about what triggers his ability to declare it.