It always starts this way. Then it’s a joke. Then it’s real.
Epstein files. He’s in them.
They have to normalize talking about. Last time Trump was asked to step down he said no then literally locked the front door on Biden.
Test the direction, inch by inch, slippery slope fascism.
And then, when the day comes, he’ll invoke the oldest legal theory of “Try and stop me”
States run their own elections, and they won’t put him on their ballots. Maybe some would, but most would not.
Thing is, they had legitimate reason to exclude him from the ballot after Jan 6. The Supreme Court said no, and the states all gave in.
The Colorado situation was always going to be an uphill battle. How do you envision this happening? Federal goons going into every swing state and forcing him onto their ballots? And then people proceeding to vote in a candidate they know shouldn’t be on there?
Republicans have a primary, Trump wins overwhelmingly, some blue state sues and it goes to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court says “Sure, the Constitution explicitly forbids this, but we can’t just disenfranchise all those republican primary voters” and rules 5-4 that he must be allowed on the ballot.
Some blue states that wouldn’t have voted for him anyway try and keep him off, and maybe succeed, but nobody really cares about those. Red states include him without a fuss, and a very well funded and organized pressure campaign to get Trump on the ballot takes place in every purple state.
If he wins, GG, if he loses, it’s Jan 6th 2 Electric Boogaloo.
Bang. That’s the way it could feasibly play out.
I’m trying to think of other possible justifications that the Supreme Court could use. Could they possibly nullify or neuter the 22nd Amendment? What justification could they use based on historical precedent, which the Heritage Foundation members cling to so tightly?
Could they just delay, delay, delay until making a decision after the election, then citing said election as precedent?
I am not familiar with the majority opinion in Trump v Anderson which must have laid out the legal reasoning why the Supreme Court was able to keep Trump on the ballot. It looks like it uses a clause in the fourteenth amendment to simply devolve the decision making power which seems to be an effective dodge and deflection to political winds.
In this timeline, yea pretty much exactly that. Plus you’ll have the die hard trumpers pretty much ready to riot if he isn’t on the ballots.
He did last time. Jan 6th wasn’t for practice.
Wait, he’s admitting that rules apply to him? Shit, he really is about to die, isn’t he?
MAGA “There is no third term, if the second term never ends.”
I hope he dies before that happens
I hope he lives long enough to sabotage potential candidates for the Republican nomination and only exits after sewing chaos and division in his own party and utterly ruining the primaries.
And tomorrow he’ll be like ‘I never said any such thing, that’s fake news!’
Sowmthing fishy about him admitting something. He’s not gonna let go of power that easy.
He’s dying /wish
The only thing for him worse than dying outside of office is dying with Obama in office.
And then he’ll pull the same stunt he did in 2020.
He doesn’t have to run. He can just declare an emergency and cancel the election.
He cannot “cancel the election.” States run elections, not the federal government.
And the states that don’t cancel will have militaries from trump supporting states come in and occupy the state to either cancel the election or scare everyone into their homes/arrest the ones that break emergency curfew to vote.
I dunno dude. The big gangs in town are the norteños and sureños. Last election, when conservative “poll watchers” thought they’d start shit, it was the gangs dealing with it not the police. Never seen them come together like this.
He can if the Supreme Court lets him.
He won’t run cause there won’t be an election; he just won’t leave.
We’re not even a year into this and it’s already abundantly clear that these are fascists.
There is no doubt about it. He will try.
“I guess I think it’s too cute,” referring to a scenario under which the person elected president would step aside so he could take over. “Yeah, I would rule that out because it’s too cute. I think the people wouldn’t like that. It’s too cute. It’s not – it wouldn’t be right.”
Adjusting for sociolectical differences in our usage of “cute,” I’ve never agreed with him more.
“I have my highest poll numbers that I’ve ever had”
I was going to say “low bar” but it’s not even true from that perspective:
"Oct. 29 -19 net approval rating: Trump’s approval rating dipped to a second-term low of 39% in Economist/YouGov polling, while 58% disapprove of his job performance in the survey taken Oct. 24-27 among 1,623 U.S. adults (margin of error 3.5).
Trump’s net approval rating in the poll is also lower than all but one Economist/YouGov survey taken during his first term."
This clownfuck always tries to test the water like this. Makes it a joke.
He 100% will try to stop legal elections so his addled ass can continue to stink up the WH.
Well, at least we can put that distraction from the Epstein files behind us
you “epstein files” people are getting obnoxious. no one cares. he is convicted and sentenced rapist, he is credibly accused of raping a child and he publicly brags about grabbing them by the pussy, he publicly creeps out about wanting to fuck his own daughter - and PEOPLE STILL ELECTED HIM. what do you think would happen if the files were released? FUCKING NOTHING.
so stop acting like it is more important than the fact he is dismantling democracy on live tv. i fucking swear at this point the BuT ThE EpStEiN FiLeS! is starting to look more and more like a russian influence operation.
I would argue that the Epstein files is a threat of democracy. There is a sizeable part of the elite class was alllowed to committ heinous crimes against vulnerable victims. These people will never face justice as long as the Epstein files are confidential.
You can’t have a three tier justice system in a democractic system. First tier, is “Fuck you, you’re going to jail forever”, second tier is “We’re going to slap you on the wrist, don’t do it again.” Third tier is “Don’t worry, you’ll never be held responsible”.
A functional democracy needs to have a functional justice system.
A functional democracy needs to have a functional justice system.
i completely agree with this.
but i do not believe that release of the epstein files, whatever that is, would result in this optimal state of affairs. and you shouldn’t believe it either - it would be released by his own fucking administration, what do you think would happen? you think they would implicate themselves?
i do however believe that it is a distraction from the fact that he just tore down half of the the white house, that he uses army and ice to lead war on american people, that he is building concentration camps and that he is working towards nullification of the next elections.
Trump has convinced people that those were all fake as soon as it came out, Epstein is the real pedo, and something something Clinton Biden something. Only problem is, he diverted his followers’ attention so much to Epstein that they believe it’s real (as they should). So now that they’re trying to say it’s a big nothingburger after all, people can’t do that 180 and finding out Trump is implicated would be much different than that “always fake” E Jean Carroll story.
what do you think would change if they released them with his name there? would he step down? would it affect his governing in any way?
I honestly think he’s pushed the Epstein stuff enough, and society hates pedophilia enough, that that is one of the few things that could obliterate his support and get enough Rs on board for impeachment (not to mention potential prosecution for anything he’s found to have done)
Nah the Rs will stay on the Trump wagon and just start raping kids in the street. I guarantee it. These people have shown their colors.
Probably even make a constitutional amendment.
he was creep and rapist before the elections and people still voted for him and republicans are still behind him, whatever their reason may be. i don’t see that changing right now.
