• A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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    "Whoa whoa whoa! I can totally see your point but you have to see the realities of today’s economy let me just quickly explain them for you blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda yadda

  • PixeIOrange@lemmy.world
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    Spoiler

    Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa

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    Why again aren’t we building an alternative right now? As soon as I pull off passive income, I’m devoting my time to making a big fuck you to this system, it is my life goal.

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      What alternative?

      Unless you’re talking about massively reforming your governments and the way your society is structured there is no alternative.

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        The alternative: trade directly and drop out of the consumerist market. Kick out everyone who tries to gouge, exploit, or trade shovelware.

        Nothing stopping us from starting up groups.

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          Indeed, as long as you’re aware, eventually it would be a parallel form of governance.

          Kick out everyone who tries to gouge, exploit, or trade shovelware.

          Yep, this sounds like governance to me! Just a better form that what you’ve been left with.

          Sounds great :) wish you all the best (genuinely).

          I’m honestly shocked the Americans aren’t already in-full blown revolt due to poverty.

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        Investment I’m afraid. It’s hard to even think of the other alternatives (developer, blogger, etc) while working 6 days a week. But I can certainly just earn a ton of cash, then earn a nice return on it.

        Though it’s risky, just saying it won’t work, and I can’t, will sooner get you nowhere than doing something at least.

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    No one deserves anything, stardust doesn’t become important just because it forms a particular structure.

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      I acknowledge your absolute nihilism, but I strongly believe in the existence of something more than just the physical reason in that sense. I believe in the existence of ethics, and with that tool I support human rights in all their forms.

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      Dangerous precedent to build your philosophy on.

      If no one deserves anything, that includes people who already have money. Why not tax every billionaire at 1500% and give that money to other people? Stardust doesn’t become important just because it forms the structure of a billionaire.

      But why stop there? Why have government at all? Why have law enforcement? Why not just do whatever we want to, to whomever we want to? Stardust doesn’t become important just because it forms the structure of a legal code.

      Nihilism requires anarchy to be logically consistent. And if nothing means anything, that includes your property and personal rights. The fact is that, in order to operate in this world at all, we have to value some things, and at least most of the people have to agree on most of the things we’re going to value. On a basic level, that’s how complex life has always functioned. On a more esoteric level, that’s our species’ evolutionary advantage: society.

      Right now, the West has decided that we’re going to value capital (and, in some cases, even just the idea of capitalism). Some people are saying, no, we should value people over and above capital; they’re facing a fight, not because nothing matters, but because the people in control have decided that only their financial enrichment matters.

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    …you know, I only get flak when i say “fuck white people”, when they are the only group that gets to “choose” their handicap…

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      Yeah, that might be because you’re maligning a group of people based on the color of their skin. That’s generally frowned upon.

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        no other group gets to “choose”, you’re black not nigerian, you’re asian not taiwanese, white people Re dutch or english, or german….brown people are mexican, or islamic….don’t you get it?..

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      …i love the downvotes, it means i’m corect…human beings subdivide without any merit….they are racist by nature….

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        Meanwhile in another universe “No one voted on my comment, therefore they’re ignoring me because I’m right”

        And in another “wow that’s a lot of upvotes, I knew I was right!”

        Your logic elsewhere may or may not be sound but your diagnosis on why people are voting the way they are is clearly not.

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        I hope you’re just trolling, because if not, that is the saddest thing I’ve ever seen in my life.