https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lyy4zevlyc2z - Alejandra Caraballo
The trans partner of Tyler Robinson had no knowledge about it and was told to delete messages but didn’t and instead turned them immediately over to the police and cooperated. Yet, the right is demonizing her and blame everything on trans people despite the trans person here doing the right thing.
I mean, absolutely worst boyfriend imaginable. I can’t imagine a partner doing something like that and then dropping that news on me. It was beyond selfish and disgusting. He not only ruined his own life and took another’s, he ruined his partner’s life as well. She’ll never have a normal life again.
The right are going to paint this as some result of radicalization and the fault of trans people but this was a cis white man and trans people had nothing to do with it. The partner was a helpless bystander in all this and when confronted with the truth, did the right thing and called the police.
You can tell the right believes she’s actually a woman because they’re blaming her for the actions of a man.
Did these messages come from the same fascist governor and FBI that lied about the fake bullet engravings?
If so then it isn’t valid
I have to admit my first reaction is hell no, don’t talk to cops. Don’t snitch. Don’t give them any evidence. In this case though I understand it because she’s probably going to need to be in witness protection to keep her safe from right wing extremists coming to kill her.
That’s if you believe the supposed messages. And that they’re even an item.
Those messages back up my time traveller theory more than anything.
You can tell the right believes she’s actually a woman because they’re blaming her for the actions of a man.
On the one hand, YES YES YES.
On the other hand, it’s so much more than that. SO many people were painting this as trans motivated violence BEFORE there was even a credible suspect in custody. Literally even before they found out he was dead, there were large numbers of people online saying this was due pro-trans terrorism.
I do not believe any of the rest of those points will mean a thing to the average MAGA conservative, based on my experience. In the most literal sense possible, most absolutely do not understand the difference between a trans person and drag queens. They honestly and fully believe that trans people are perverts patrolling public bathrooms to rape women and children. Trans-men practically do not exist, nor do intersex, nor any other atypical physical, genetic, gender, or sex presentation.
Ok, that last tweet made me bellow laugh, because it’s so true: “You can tell the right believes she’s actually a woman because they’re blaming her for the actions of a man.”. I mean it’s tragic, but it’s also insane how in searching for the scape goat it always comes down to either a minority or a woman. And in this case both.
It reminds me of a friend who was doing a PhD involving some weird, new kind of lasers. Catching up with her one time, she said "Well, men have started explaining my own research to me, so I guess that means I pass ¯_(ツ)_/¯ ".
My response was “Congratulations? Also, F.”
But also /s
You can tell the right believes she’s actually a woman because they’re blaming her for the actions of a man.
For those, like me, who haven’t seen these texts
Robinson: drop what you are doing, look under my keyboard.
[When the roommate looked under the keyboard, there was a note that allegedly read: “I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I’m going to take it.”]Roommate: "What??? You’re joking, right???
Robinson: I am still ok my love, but am stuck in orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn’t be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you.Roommate: you weren’t the one who did it right???
Robinson: I am, I’m sorry
Roommate: I thought they caught the person?
Robinson: no, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. Its quiet, almost enough to get out, but theres one vehicle lingering.
Roommate: Why?
Robinson: Why did I do it?
Roommate: Yeah
Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out.
Robinson: If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to retrieve it again, hopefully they have moved on. I haven’t seen anything about them finding it.
Roommate: How long have you been planning this?
Robinson: a bit over a week I believe. I can get close to it but there is a squad car parked right by it. I think they already swept that spot, but I don’t wanna chance it
Robinson: I’m wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle… I’m worried what my old man would do if I didn’t bring back grandpas rifle … idek if it had a serial number, but it wouldn’t trace to me. I worry about prints I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits. didn’t have the ability or time to bring it with… I might have to abandon it and hope they don’t find prints. how the [expletive] will I explain losing it to my old man…
only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel…
remember how I was engraving bullets? The [expletive] messages are mostly a big meme, if I see “notices bulge uwu” on fox new I might have a stroke alright im gonna have to leave it, that really [expletive] sucks… judging from today I’d say grandpas gun does just fine idk. I think that was a $2k scope;-;
Robinson: delete this exchange
Robinson: my dad wants photos of the rifle … he says grandpa wants to know who has what, the feds released a photo of the rifle, and it is very unique. Hes calling me rn, not answering.
Robinson: since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga.
Robinson: Im gonna turn myself in willingly, one of my neighbors here is a deputy for the sheriff.
Robinson: you are all I worry about love
Roommate: I’m much more worried about you
Robinson: don’t talk to the media please. don’t take any interviews or make any comments. … if any police ask you questions ask for a lawyer and stay silent
I still feel like this is just made up nonsense. Not because it isn’t true or anything.
But cause, who the fuck talks like that. This reads like a fanfic a 13 year old wrote.
It’s like uncanny valley.
It’s such a bizarre decision to censor out “fuck”-s. Who’s going to read about a murder but get offended by some swearwords?
Dumbfuck Americans. Just like always.
Yet you’re dumb enough to think these aren’t fake as fuck?
I made no such claim.
Edit to add: I have no idea if it’s real or not, and neither does anyone else. I’m not prepared to jump to any conclusions about it without further information, unlike everyone else has been doing since the shooting. This is probably the most level headed and comprehensive summary of what’s actually known that I’ve seen so far.
Regardless of which ‘side’ he was on or what his motive was, what mostly concerns me is the Republican’s absolutely psychotic reaction to it.
Is there another comment somewhere? How did you come to that conclusion?
Yes those totally weren’t fabricated at all
Remember that time we incriminated ourselves over text while on the run, my love?
Who is buying this?
“I planned on taking this to the grave”
Leaves a note of admission
Not to mention he gives a play by play of events he wouldnt have been present for because he was supposed to be escaping off the roof during that time.
this totally reads like “i am running from the police. going to take a nap in a pile of crack with some guns. call me” which granted sounds like a few people i knew but at the same time
At least the one person who downvoted my comment, apparently 😅
(I laugh but this whole thing is depressing)
i won’t lie that looks fake as fuck
I don’t for one second believe those are real texts.
FAKE NEWS/SATIRE
Kash Patel’s FBI keeps finding messages that undeniably PROVE the shooter was a 22yo leftist gamer with a trans roommate.
FAKE NEWS/SATIRE
This is great. Not too far off.
These are obviously fake and edited. Everyone knows he had an MS-13 connection too that’s being suppressed. /s
that’s just from eating too much venezuelan food you know they put ms-13 in it to make it taste good
You have a dangerous power friend, wield it wisely.
The word choice and sentence structure in some of his messages sounded like some Great Depression-era literature prose.
And then a note hidden under his keyboard that they supposedly have a picture of? The same place where boomers keep their passwords? I’m not buying that.
Yeah, for someone seemingly terminally online, surely it would have been digital at least, right? It seems like someone made it up based on their experience, without thinking about what this person would have done.
I’d sooner believe that Robinson fabricated those texts and that note to take the fall for the partner doing the shooting than believe those are real texts. To be clear, I don’t believe that at all either. Fucking Kash Patel could tell me grass was green and I’d go out and fucking check. They way too conveniently answer magically every investigative question they could possibly have.
Okay now I’m confused was the roommate trans or not because I was under the impression that was a hoax.
Either way I do think these text messages are fake as fuck. They read just like something Kash Patel thinks a leftist would say
Gender is fluid and they are in Utah. Trans or not-trans is often a matter of time, experimentation, experience. Some people stay non binary for a long time, some people transition to a degree but then still identify as non binary, some people are closeted, it isn’t real clear.
Its not important whether the roomate was trans or not, but there are good reports of a relationship, as it was verified by friends of Robinson’s who shared info with Ken Klippenstein
Wikipedia allowed the statement: Investigators interviewed Robinson’s roommate, who was reported to be transgender and in a romantic relationship with Robinson.
Which are sourced from NBC and New York Times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Charlie_Kirk#Investigation
But also evidence doesn’t matter to Republicans regardless.
It was manipulation so both sides hate the shooter and we don’t end up with an other Luigi. The whole goypher thing stinks.
The last thing this fascist administration needs is the left rallying behind shooters.
Fascists are going to do terrible shit. It doesn’t matter how you try appease them, they are going to do terrible shit.
If I were her I would’ve tried to disappear off the face of the earth. The amount of courage it must’ve taken to come forward despite knowing what would happen…THAT’S some real shit right there
The correct response was to listen to the shooter. You should never ever talk to the police under any circumstances because they will crucify you. She has a good chance of going to prison as an accomplice by speaking to them. They can either catch her in a lie about something mundane or they can forget or misrepresent questions they asked in court to make her responses look bad.
Here’s a great talk from a lawyer and a cop about why you should never ever get interviewed by police: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
Right, she’s been doxxed and targeted. She does not have many choices moving forward.
I just hope she was out about her trans status anyway. If that’s been outed on top of everything else, that would be excruciatingly painful
I hadn’t even considered that. Oof.
tried to disappear off
I think that would’ve made the situation worse for her. She probably would’ve been considered an accomplice evading justice.
Perhaps neither here nor there, but there are in fact worse boyfriends imaginable:
- Donald Trump
- Jeffrey Dahmer
- Benjamin Netanyahu
- Saddam Hussein
- Mao Zedong
- Dnepropetrovsk maniacs
- Heinrich Himmler
- Anders Behring Breivik
- Vladimir Putin
- Leopold II of Belgium
- Et cetera.
To lump the cognitively incompetent moral sinkhole Donald Trump among these approximate manifestations of pure evil might seem silly, but those who have ever been bullied will know why, especially considering this dunce does it on an international level without accountability.
I have no idea wtf is going on
MAGA needs the Charlie Kirk shooter to be trans illegal college immigrant. Since he was a cis white trades apprentice guy from a conservative family, they’ve pivot to him being indoctrinated by his trans roommate.
A Cis white trades apprentice guy from a conservative family who has a history of listening to Nick Fuentes, a right-wing podcast dude who called for political violence toward the left, and has even chastised both Charlie kirk and Donald Trump
who has a history of listening to Nick Fuentes
Would you have a source where I can read about that? I haven’t been able to keep up with all the news
I’m pretty sure no source has confirmed he’s a Groyper. It’s just speculations.
All we know is that the shooter wasn’t particularly political.
The shooter’s mom said he leaned left into the extremism of thinking gay and trans people deserve to have rights. Absolutely no other examples of leaning left, just that one thing.
The comment right above you says otherwise. With a link to a source. What do you have other than intuition?
That article doesn’t point to any specific. Citing the article:
On his Discord and social media accounts, Robinson shared Groyper memes, labeled Kirk a “Zionist sellout,” and praised Fuentes’ “purity tests” for conservatism.
This could be the most concrete evidence. The question is, what memes did he share? What were the texts showing he praised ”purity tests”? There’s nothing in the article, and I haven’t seen anything surface since.
Recovered rifle casings had chilling inscriptions like “Hey fascist! Catch!” and references to internet memes rooted in alt-right culture. Some even referenced the leftist anthem “Bella Ciao”—used ironically by the far-right online.
The link between the inscriptions and the Groyper movement weak. Liking Helldivers 2 doesn’t make you a Groyper.
To me, this sounds more like the typical fashion of old people not understanding young people internet culture, and attribute anything they don’t understand to the alt right.
The rest of the article is just explaining the Groyper movement.
That link is kind of suspicious. I don’t know how much faith you can put into it.
Propaganda exists and just having a link doesn’t mean you’re right.
It’s based on discord messages and the “Bella ciao” bullet so it could just be a coincidence or a throw off
Who are these investigators? Where are the discord messages? It’s odd that the smoking gun of the article isn’t shown or corroborated. Or am I missing it somewhere?
In Groyper’s defense, Charlie Kirk, the 13th disciple of crucified Christ, wasn’t Valhalla enough to date a Valkyrie who transitions for the greater good.
/s
That last tweet was delicious.
I thought so too
