NRA been quiet right

  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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    6 minutes ago

    So we should start calling ICE to report fashy gun owners are harboring illegal aliens, yes?

    Maybe even illegal aliens with blogs that are critical of fascism.

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    1 hour ago

    Who would’ve guessed that people overly obsessed with firearms and very vocal about their obsession had small dicks.

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    15 hours ago

    They’re 100% OK about right wing autocracy and white supremacy. That’s been their thing the whole time.

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    16 hours ago

    So if you shoot someone acting on a no knock warrant, are you in the wrong? What if you live in a state with a castle law?

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      18 minutes ago

      Just know that with the first shot, they are going to unload every round of ammo they have until every living thing in that house is dead.

      • wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works
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        If they have a badge and I get away with it, yeah. Especially an ICE badge. Traffic cops have done some good. But I can’t remember hearing any story about ICE that was about them doing anything positive, ever.

        Watch the life drain from their dead eyes and know some good was done as I have purified the evil trained into their husk like a cancer.

        Everybody wins.

        But shooting people in general? Nah. Personally speaking, anyway. I don’t even have a gun myself.

        I feel the opposite goes for conservatives. They’ll shoot anyone they can argue they felt threatened by. But they’ll lick ICE boots on request.

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      16 hours ago

      Depends on the state. But if you shoot a cop, regardless of how justified, your next 10 years, should you see them, are going to suck. And the following 10 are iffy.

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        7 hours ago

        I have lots of cameras. Some hidden. I have all kinds of evidence. Best things be done according to the law on my premises. The Constitutional law, not the flippant ravings done on a whim just to test the actual laws put in place for 200 years.

  • The_Caretaker@lemm.ee
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    A memo from the executive branch doesn’t change the law anymore than a memo from me or you can act as a change in the speed limit. “Officer, I don’t have to go 25mph here, I made a memo that says I can go as fast as I want, anywhere I want. I signed it and everything. Look it has my personal letterhead at the top.”

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      “You might beat the rap, but you won’t beat the ride.”

      This memo may not hold legal weight, but that won’t mean much when ICE black-bags you and sends you to a Salvadoran gulag from which there is no escape and no contact with legal services.

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      15 hours ago

      That would be the case if the executive branch still cared about what the judicial branch has to say or involved the whole legislative branch in the decision making process. However, they don’t and their bulldozer approach is met with very little resistance.

      Or in short: Being right doesn’t help you a lot if you’re being right while already in their concentration camp in El Salvador.

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    16 hours ago

    Because capitalism has beaten every last will I have.

    It won’t get better because we are, in fact, waiting to die.

    Dear other countries: don’t let the bastards win. They already have here.

    Edit: I’m depressed as fuck, please don’t let my doomsaying hurt you. Sorry.

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    20 hours ago

    Of course the NRA has been quiet. They always do this, because they’re not about to people. Do you remember when California passed stricter gun laws? Because black people were buying guns? That happened like 50 years ago. The NRA was silent then and they are silent now.

    Of course it’s always good to point out the hypocrisy. But let’s also remember the historical context, that this is consistent with the organization’s values and it always has been and it always will be.

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    19 hours ago

    The tyranny is when they take the guns and it’s too late to fight back. The tyranny is not the slow boil while they oppress the people I don’t like before getting to me next. Duh. Stupid libs.

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      7 hours ago

      Almost got me with this one. I’ve heard the same argument deployed unironically from some of my own family…

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    22 hours ago

    My 00 buckshot is allowed to enter ICE agents who don’t have a warrant.

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      18 hours ago

      Ya. I mean. They don’t have a warrant. They’re trespassing.

      The issue is law enforcement won’t serve a warrant in the blind. They do their research. They know who they’re about to take down.

      So if it’s just a migrant family trying to get by. Sure. They’ll knock the doors down guns drawn like in the tv shows.

      But it you a coked up methhead with traps all over your property in rural Georgia they’ll conveniently not have enough probable cause.

      America is a messed up country.

    • ibelieveinthehousehippo@lemmy.ca
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      19 hours ago

      I keep seeing this nonsense being parroted as though these pigs are going to burst in while you’re ready and waiting.

      Surely they won’t come in and kill you while you’re asleep, right? No, that could never happen…

      • Snowclone@lemmy.world
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        No knock warrants are stupidly dangerous for the victim and police. Personally if the SS are knocking my door down, and I can certainly say no one else is going to do this at any time, I’m comfortable with making my own terms. My life is going to hopefully cost more than equal loss. I’d rather fight till I die then die in a hole, they can torture and rape my corpse, I’ll be done with it before then.

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        18 hours ago

        Having firearms for protection is so they’re within reach and ready…if you lock up your fire extinguisher then it’s pretty fucking useless if you have a fire.

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          18 hours ago

          I get your point, but let’s be serious. That point is about being responsible. How often do fire extinguishers get kids killed?

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            18 hours ago

            The question is how often are they not used and kids die in fires?

            Same question is, how often are kids killed by the police?

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              17 hours ago

              Idk but i don’t think fires are all that common, and we have plenty of other mechanisms to prevent fires from even happening.

              OTOH, guns being stored incorrectly is for sure far higher than any fire death you are trying to make equivalent.

              I am not strawmanning you here, but i am calling you out for being disingenuous. Like I said:

              I get your point, but let’s be serious. That point is about being responsible.

              Please don’t do backflips to justify irresponsible gun owners. That is disgusting.

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                16 hours ago

                The strawman is that you assume children would ever be in their home. If the guns are behind locked doors away from children, they’re secured.

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                  16 hours ago

                  The strawman is that you assume children would ever be in their home.

                  Why would that be a wrong assumption? I am not sure what you are getting at here.

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    23 hours ago

    Well … The 2nd ammendment friendly liberals are smart enough not to post “come get sum ya dirty Nazi asshats” or say how they might be looking forward to defending their home against armed trespassers (ICE without a warrant). That stuff leads to trouble, or might look bad in court.

    People know this is bad. History shows this only ends in violence. There is no way to vote our way out of this, these people either get overthrown/arrested, or they get taken out by other nations world war style.

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      i don’t think it’s likely that other nations will take out trump through a world war, as happened with hitler in WW2.

      this is largely because i believe that other countries entered WW2 to stop hitler because they were getting attacked, or feared they were about to be attacked next. if trump doesn’t outright attack other countries, i see little reason for other countries to use military force to stop the US or trump.

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        For sure, but the rhetoric for annexing other nations has been ramping up, from Canada to Greenland

        So I don’t know about it not happening. I see a very real possibility of WW3. Or an American Civil War at least. While also horrific, for the sake of the world I hope it ends up being “just” a civil war

      • Wilco@lemm.ee
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        16 hours ago

        Are we talking about the same Trump? Orange guy? Current president? The guy constantly yelling about annexing other countries and making them a 51st state?