SpaceX’s Starship spacecraft exploded on Thursday minutes after lifting off from Texas, dooming an attempt to deploy mock satellites in the second consecutive failure this year for Elon Musk’s Mars rocket program.

Several videos on social media showed fiery debris streaking through the dusk skies near south Florida and the Bahamas after Starship’s breakup in space, which occurred shortly after it began to spin uncontrollably with its engines cut off, a SpaceX livestream of the mission showed.

The failure comes just more than a month after the company’s seventh Starship flight also ended in an explosive failure. The back-to-back mishaps occurred in early mission phases that SpaceX has easily surpassed previously, indicating serious setbacks for a program Musk has sought to speed up this year.

  • Eddbopkins@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    5 days ago

    Hmm maybe the FAA should not have cleared the flight since the rocket in January wasn’t fully investigated to completion. You rush complex engineering and science and things go wrong.

    • sebinspace@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      4 days ago

      To be fair, I’m gonna play devil’s advocate and point out that Falcon 9 is one of, if not the most reliable launch vehicles ever built, and their landing success rate is phenomenal, and that they got there by fucking up, a lot, and eventually figuring out how to not do that.

      That being said, I’m getting pretty tired of Musk getting all of the credit for the work of countless engineers and scientists, where fuckboi’s physics doctorate doesn’t actually exist…

        • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          5 days ago

          We also desperately wanted any space program. The space shuttles were retired in 2011 and we were reliant on Russia for flights at that point.

          Musk said the things progressives wanted to hear, but eventually we wanted substance. That’s when he shifted to catering to conservatives, who are ok with being lied to.

  • HalfSalesman@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    6 days ago

    I say this as someone who loathes Musk, its not a big deal that this exploded.

    But the success or failures of the program should also not be meaningfully attributed to Musk anyway. He owns the company but hes not an engineer.

    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      6 days ago

      I think it can be attributed to Musk because he’s the driving force behind pushing the “move fast and break things” mentality into rocket science. They haven’t figured out why the last one blew up and they go ahead and launch another one which looks like it blew up for the same reasons.

      That might work with non-critical software, but when you’re talking about large rockets it’s bound to get people killed eventually. At the very least they could’ve built a launch site for testing where the rockets aren’t going over populated areas. But naw, build it in Texas and fire untested rockets over Caribbean countries, because there’s not enough white people in those countries for Musk to give a shit.

    • FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      6 days ago

      I personally want Musk’s space program to fail because scientific advances and achievements need to belong to the people, not some corporate asshole. Publically funded science is the only way to go. Also, NASA seemed to have mastered the rocket back in the 60s–SpaceX can’t even do that.

      • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        5 days ago

        Unfortunately NASA rockets are also made by corporate assholes because everything is outsourced to the military industrial complex

      • blakemiller@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        5 days ago

        NASA’s mission is to pioneer the future in space exploration, scientific discovery, and aeronautics research. I’ll support any model that enables those principles. They paved the way in the 60s and that’s enabled others to succeed. Isn’t that the highest form of achievement? Look at what SpaceX has done with their massively reusable Falcon 9. The space shuttle flew 135 missions over 40 years; that’s about 3 a year. There’s been 453 Falcon 9 flights (134 in 2024 alone) and a single Falcon 9 stack has been reused 26 times… all of those achievements happened within a span of 15 years. I think it’s safe to say that they’ve mastered the rocket. You’re just seeing the R&D phase of their new one …which has the added spectacle of some rapid unscheduled disassemblies that we get to witness 😉

  • IHeartBadCode@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    6 days ago

    Remember when the FAA grounded him till he got this fix and then Musk told the FAA head to retire or be fired?

    I think it’s wild that “better times” is now when corruption wasn’t so naked.

  • blady_blah@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    6 days ago

    It pisses me off that I’m rooting against Space X, a company with an unarguably cool mission and product. Fuck Musk.

    • vxx@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      6 days ago

      Whats cool about mining colonies on other planets? They will probably send slaves prisoners there.

      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        4 days ago

        the cool thing is that it will give these “christian” dictators in the US something to do, other than destroying earth, that will hopefully distract them from destroying earth in the first place. and conveniently, it would also send them very, very far away, with low chance of them ever returning, i hope.

    • Buffalox@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      6 days ago

      There is NOTHING cool about SpaceX and there never was.
      Musk claimed it was “Plan B” but there is no fucking Plan B, if we destroy the earth that is it!!
      Musk and Trump are the idiots in Don’t look up! And the movie nailed it!

      • KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        6 days ago

        The coolest thing about Space X is that it knocked about 100 million dollars off the cost of putting a satellite in orbit. More, if you consider the possibility of multiple small satellites sharing a launch to a similar orbit.

        This enabled many, many small research companies to begin developing satellites for Earth and atmospheric imaging which is advancing our ability to collect precise data about things like greenhouse gas emissions.

        Fuck Musk, absolutely, but a lower barrier to entry to putting things in space absolutely has utility.

        • HellsBelle@sh.itjust.worksOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          6 days ago

          Fuck Musk, absolutely, but a lower barrier to entry to putting things in space absolutely has utility.

          Have you actually seen how many Starlink satellites surround Earth? There little room for more. Source

          • insufferableninja@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            6 days ago

            That image is so incredibly silly.

            First, there are fewer than 20k starlink satellites, each about 3m long. If you put 20k 3m objects on the surface of the planet would you think that they were taking up all the room? Of course not. And the amount of free space available in LEO is even greater than at the surface.

            Second, if they had made the “satellites” on that image to scale, you wouldn’t be able to see them at all. The approximate surface area of LEO where the satellites are is like 8x10^8 km^2. They aren’t running out of space.

            tl;dr: the satellites aren’t “running out of room”

    • b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      6 days ago

      Going to space under capitalism makes no sense.

      Why should space exploration need or want a profit motive?

      Create an anarcho-communist society where we firstly house, feed, and educate everyone. Explore space for the pure purpose of exploration in conditions where we can all collaborate without the need of competition and destruction.

      • theluckyone@discuss.online
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        6 days ago

        I’d much rather mine resources in an asteroid ring than on Earth. Polluting a lifeless chunk of rock in vacuum makes a lot more sense to me.

        We’ve got a long way to go before we get there, but we won’t get there by waiting until we’ve the rest of society perfect first.

      • EsmereldaFritzmonster@lemmings.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        6 days ago

        I have a family member that works as an engineer building parts for various spacecraft. They get excited about the possibility of finding a renewable energy source and just in general what science can gain and learn from space that will make life better on earth.

        Do with that what you will, I’m neutral, I’m just providing a different perspective that I think is relevant.

  • Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    6 days ago

    Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth.

  • Heikki@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    6 days ago

    The FAA was investigating SpaceX from the last explosion and grounded all spacex flight until after an investigation. Then, the nazi-in-chief fired the FAA leader to get his way.

  • RattlerSix@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    6 days ago

    Has he tried firing half the SpaceX employees, slicing half the budget and making everyone still there send an email detailing what they did this week?

  • SabinStargem@lemmings.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    6 days ago

    Not a failure. The whole point of R&D before doing a genuine payload is to remove this sort of issue. While the association of the company with Musk is truly crappy, this explosion is genuinely useful.

    If this project were European or under a different administration, I would feel the same.

    • leds@feddit.dk
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 days ago

      It is usefull but the trouble is that they should be much and much more certain about their designs. Let’s say they want 99.99% reliability for real payload then they should by now be at 99.9% . If they want to do it by trail and error they would need to do a lot trials to show that they actually achieved that reliability. Otherwise the next one is still just as likely to explode. I guess what I’m trying to say is that you can’t get there by trial and error.

    • jonne@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      6 days ago

      Yeah, Musk is just not micro managing enough. If he was on board he’d be able to fix any issues that come up in real time.