He made them work 14 consecutive 12+ hour days of physical labour (sun up to sun down) then bounced their cheques. Then, offered $1400 ($100/day = $8/hr, well below the CA minimum wage at the time) but only if they did 300-500 push ups, while bragging he makes thousands an hour.
Those fucking morons could have easily found a lawyer to take their case on contingency, sued him, won a ton, and probably uncovered all of his abuses, which would have led to him paying out a ton more money to present and past employees, probably bankrupting him, and very possibly putting him in prison for a few years. Far worse than death for that Putz.
I propose a new law. If the victim of a murder is someone who owns a fortune more than 1000x the median household income, then someone on trial for the murder can make an affirmative defense that it was ok, simply because, “he needed killin.'”
Literally, if you can convince the jury that the guy had it coming, you get off Scott free. Anyone who wants to avoid potentially being killed and having their killer escape unpunished can avoid this fate by simply not hoarding wealth over the critical threshold. Those who hoard such fortunes will just have to live with enough kindness that no one could ever convince a jury that they deserved to die. We’ll end up with no billionaires or every billionaire becoming like Fred Rogers. I’ll take either outcome.
You’re describing lynching. No change in law is needed, juries are free to nullify the law. Governors and the President also have the power to pardon. It’s how the system was designed to work.
I know lemmy can lean weird left sometimes where it’s quite alright to kill someone but other physical violence, like beating somebody up, is taboo, but . . .
My dad always told me that sometimes a man just needs a tune-up. Sometimes its you, sometimes its the other guy. Maybe its both of you. When I was younger I handed out a few and received one good one of my own. I think all were probably necessary and healthy, and I am a firm believer that sometimes someone is just in need of a good ass beating to help correct their perspective.
Such a course correction, if applied earlier to this guy, might have saved his life.
I’m really starting to feel like my youngest kid is like this. But obviously I can’t tune him up myself, he’s only 6.
Can I hire some other first-grader to beat him up?
He’s a pretty solid kid…could I get a fourth-grader?
I joke…I love him but man sometimes it feels like no punishment works with him. I know that it’s really just his ADHD and him being exactly like I was as a kid…except my hyperactivity was internalized while his is externalized. Adderall helps. Both of us. Maybe I gotta see about upping his dose.
I’ve seen a good argument that personal violence between men may very well be mentally healthy outside of sports. Basically as you said sometimes you need your ass beat to put things into perspective, funny enough I stopped doing my twitch elbowing reaction in middle school because I did it to someone and he punched me in the face. Stopped the tic and fair is fair.
The thing that Neoliberals will grow to understand very quickly as material conditions worsen; is that FDR was not the savior of the working class. He was the savior of the capitalist FROM the working class. And right now, there isn’t an FDR to be found.
Neoliberals, and even more so social democrats, are among the most (effectively) conservative candidates in a certain sense. With the understanding that pure capitalism is so unsustainable that it will eventually destroy itself, social democrats, by undoing some of the harm caused by capitalism, only seek to conserve it.
Of course, I think they’re (social democrats, not neoliberals) a better choice for now, since they don’t work to actively harm the working class. But in the long run, they are what’s keeping capitalism afloat. I don’t know what’s the way to escape the clutches of capitalism without causing complete societal collapse, but social democracy ain’t it.
Honestly, I consider myself a social democrat, and that’s a fair criticism of social democratic politics.
You can mitigate the worst excesses of capitalism, but only at the price of constant vigilance. And if you do a good job, people don’t think you are doing much of anything, and hound you about the “government inefficiency”, the “oppressive regulatory pressure” and the “poor business climate”. You are basically running PR for capitalism.
The new wave of DSA-aligned progressives are running on an FDR inspired “Green New Deal.” If they get enough victories in next year’s primaries there could be a realignment of the DNC towards FDR style policies, so there very well could be an FDR type running in the 2028 presidential election with the support of the Democratic party. The wealthy donors who control the DNC would be forced to appease the base
It’s likely to be a very chaotic affair given Trump’s unwillingness to abdicate power. Unfortunately the only way I see trump leaving office peacefully is if his own party turns on him and votes along with Democrats to impeach him before the next election. Failing that we’ll get Jan 6 two: electric boogaloo and we get to find out if they worked out the kinks.
I support DSA because I think it builds class consciousness and can show on a small scale what socialist policies can achieve.
However, I think the capitalist class has made it clear that they would not allow an FDR to save them. They turned down that offer with Bernie and again letting Biden run for a second term. They decided it was gonna be more neoliberalism or a Cryptofascist surrounded by actual fascist at every level of his administration.
You are right. They will not give up power. And they definitely won’t allow an FDR candidate in though. And if they do they definitely won’t allow the level of FDR policies needed to stop the anger of the working class.
The failing neoliberalism vs. growing fascism is the only real federal government cycle we have to look forward to. Eventually that hits it tipping point though.
However, I think the capitalist class has made it clear that they would not allow an FDR to save them. They turned down that offer with Bernie and again letting Biden run for a second term.
They’re just not desperate enough yet. They will cave when they begin to feel they are under personal threat.
Yeah and only halfway into the article it revealed that he had a “marijuana enterprise”… So, slice it as you will, but he was a drug dealer. Maybe a very clean legit operation, but still a drug dealer…
Story here https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/slain-calif-tech-ceo-humiliated-workers-report-21125144.php
The CEO sounded like an absolute cunt. When will they learn?
Why would they learn? There’s millions of them and they are rewarded so well for their tyranny. I think it’s time to take all of them out.
Wow.
He made them work 14 consecutive 12+ hour days of physical labour (sun up to sun down) then bounced their cheques. Then, offered $1400 ($100/day = $8/hr, well below the CA minimum wage at the time) but only if they did 300-500 push ups, while bragging he makes thousands an hour.
Jesus that guy was an absolute asshole.
Those fucking morons could have easily found a lawyer to take their case on contingency, sued him, won a ton, and probably uncovered all of his abuses, which would have led to him paying out a ton more money to present and past employees, probably bankrupting him, and very possibly putting him in prison for a few years. Far worse than death for that Putz.
Instead, they’re serving life without parole.
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I propose a new law. If the victim of a murder is someone who owns a fortune more than 1000x the median household income, then someone on trial for the murder can make an affirmative defense that it was ok, simply because, “he needed killin.'”
Literally, if you can convince the jury that the guy had it coming, you get off Scott free. Anyone who wants to avoid potentially being killed and having their killer escape unpunished can avoid this fate by simply not hoarding wealth over the critical threshold. Those who hoard such fortunes will just have to live with enough kindness that no one could ever convince a jury that they deserved to die. We’ll end up with no billionaires or every billionaire becoming like Fred Rogers. I’ll take either outcome.
You’re describing lynching. No change in law is needed, juries are free to nullify the law. Governors and the President also have the power to pardon. It’s how the system was designed to work.
I know lemmy can lean weird left sometimes where it’s quite alright to kill someone but other physical violence, like beating somebody up, is taboo, but . . .
My dad always told me that sometimes a man just needs a tune-up. Sometimes its you, sometimes its the other guy. Maybe its both of you. When I was younger I handed out a few and received one good one of my own. I think all were probably necessary and healthy, and I am a firm believer that sometimes someone is just in need of a good ass beating to help correct their perspective.
Such a course correction, if applied earlier to this guy, might have saved his life.
I’m really starting to feel like my youngest kid is like this. But obviously I can’t tune him up myself, he’s only 6.
Can I hire some other first-grader to beat him up?
He’s a pretty solid kid…could I get a fourth-grader?
I joke…I love him but man sometimes it feels like no punishment works with him. I know that it’s really just his ADHD and him being exactly like I was as a kid…except my hyperactivity was internalized while his is externalized. Adderall helps. Both of us. Maybe I gotta see about upping his dose.
I want you to know, as a parent I understand. I love my 3 year old but he is nonstop trying to get a rise out of us.
Oh yeah that’s about the age it started in earnest with our kid. He’s like a professional troll.
Buckle up. I tried to get his older brother to hit him (back…when he hit first), but he was too much of a softie.
I’ve seen a good argument that personal violence between men may very well be mentally healthy outside of sports. Basically as you said sometimes you need your ass beat to put things into perspective, funny enough I stopped doing my twitch elbowing reaction in middle school because I did it to someone and he punched me in the face. Stopped the tic and fair is fair.
The thing that Neoliberals will grow to understand very quickly as material conditions worsen; is that FDR was not the savior of the working class. He was the savior of the capitalist FROM the working class. And right now, there isn’t an FDR to be found.
Neoliberals, and even more so social democrats, are among the most (effectively) conservative candidates in a certain sense. With the understanding that pure capitalism is so unsustainable that it will eventually destroy itself, social democrats, by undoing some of the harm caused by capitalism, only seek to conserve it.
Of course, I think they’re (social democrats, not neoliberals) a better choice for now, since they don’t work to actively harm the working class. But in the long run, they are what’s keeping capitalism afloat. I don’t know what’s the way to escape the clutches of capitalism without causing complete societal collapse, but social democracy ain’t it.
Social democrats in the West managed to keep capitalism afloat because the brunt of the exploitation was moved abroad.
Yeah, that’s a critical difference between social democracy and true socialism. Socialists are against exploitation anywhere in the world.
Honestly, I consider myself a social democrat, and that’s a fair criticism of social democratic politics.
You can mitigate the worst excesses of capitalism, but only at the price of constant vigilance. And if you do a good job, people don’t think you are doing much of anything, and hound you about the “government inefficiency”, the “oppressive regulatory pressure” and the “poor business climate”. You are basically running PR for capitalism.
The new wave of DSA-aligned progressives are running on an FDR inspired “Green New Deal.” If they get enough victories in next year’s primaries there could be a realignment of the DNC towards FDR style policies, so there very well could be an FDR type running in the 2028 presidential election with the support of the Democratic party. The wealthy donors who control the DNC would be forced to appease the base
It’s likely to be a very chaotic affair given Trump’s unwillingness to abdicate power. Unfortunately the only way I see trump leaving office peacefully is if his own party turns on him and votes along with Democrats to impeach him before the next election. Failing that we’ll get Jan 6 two: electric boogaloo and we get to find out if they worked out the kinks.
He could leave in a box
I support DSA because I think it builds class consciousness and can show on a small scale what socialist policies can achieve.
However, I think the capitalist class has made it clear that they would not allow an FDR to save them. They turned down that offer with Bernie and again letting Biden run for a second term. They decided it was gonna be more neoliberalism or a Cryptofascist surrounded by actual fascist at every level of his administration.
You are right. They will not give up power. And they definitely won’t allow an FDR candidate in though. And if they do they definitely won’t allow the level of FDR policies needed to stop the anger of the working class.
The failing neoliberalism vs. growing fascism is the only real federal government cycle we have to look forward to. Eventually that hits it tipping point though.
They’re just not desperate enough yet. They will cave when they begin to feel they are under personal threat.
We’ll have to agree to disagree. In my opinion you can’t “unchoose” fascism.
And nobody will miss him.
Almost sounds like my current employer. The concept surely is the same. Workplace Enshittification.
The CEO certainly was asking for it it seems
Did you see what they were wearing?!?
Yeah and only halfway into the article it revealed that he had a “marijuana enterprise”… So, slice it as you will, but he was a drug dealer. Maybe a very clean legit operation, but still a drug dealer…
Employees did the world a favor.