We hanged people like Charlie Kirk at Nuremberg. He didn’t deserve to be assassinated, but Kirk did deserve a life sentence in prison for crimes against humanity and incitement to genocide.

Eh. Trump was able to make a very specific and tangible case to his voters for how he was going to directly improve their lives. Kamala was completely unwilling to do that. That’s why she lost.

Trump’s plan was evil, but it was clear and direct. His message was “I will deport a bunch of immigrants and slap up tariffs. This will make it easier for you to get a job and buy a home.” It’s a cynical, evil, and short-sighted plan, but it was actually a plan to directly improve the living standards of working class Americans.

What was Kamala’s equivalent? Nothing. She had some vague language about a tax credit that would just inflate the housing bubble higher, and she took the usual idiot liberal approach of attaching dozens of strings that made it so only select marginalized people would qualify for it. Kamala offered nothing. People were hurting, and she offered them nothing. She didn’t lose because of Gaza, no matter what Republican trolls on Lemmy like to say. She lost because she was unable to make a clear and specific case about how she was going to help the people that voted for her. Her only real core message was the defense of democracy, but it turns out that people see little reason to support a democracy that will do nothing to actually advance their interests.

Most conservatives worship Satan. They’re literally devil-worshipers. If your religion leads you to hate, you are not worshiping a benevolent god, you’re worshiping the Devil. Charlie Kirk was a devil worshiper and he’s now joined his master, where he will burn in the fires of Hell for all the misery he brought down upon his innocent victims. All billionaires go to Hell. Most Republicans go to Hell. Any “Christian” that preaches hate is bound for the the Pit.

Charlie Kirk is currently burning in the 7th Circle of Hell. Despite his claims to be a Christian, he actually practiced devil worship. Like all those who worship hate, he actually worshiped Satan rather than God. If your religion leads you to hate, you’re not following any teaching of Christ. You’re worshiping the Devil.

Satan has now claimed his own. For his sins and crimes against humanity, for all of his victims, if there is a Hell, Charlie is burning there right now. That is the fate of every Nazi and every billionaire.

As a reminder, we hanged people like Charlie Kirk at Nuremberg on charges of incitement to genocide and crimes against humanity. “Just asking questions” about the extermination of entire groups of people IS a crime against humanity. If Kirk had been alive in the 1930s, he would have been challenging people to debate him about “the Jewish question.”

Fucking clankers.

Yeah, go ahead and name call. That really helped you win last time.

If I’m a tankie, you’re a quisling.

The thing I’ve been repeating? We literally hanged people exactly like Charlie Kirk for crimes against humanity at Nuremberg. If Kirk were alive in 1930s Germany, he would have been challenging people to debate him about “the Jewish question.”

Nominating a candidate you know can’t win is voting for the opposition candidate.

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Take some responsibility. The “we’re an iota better than Trump” strategy lost miserably in 2016, 2024, and would have lost in 2020 if not for covid. And here you are, still spreading blood libel about leftists. Leftists almost universally held their nose and voted for the shitty lesser evil candidate, just like they do every fucking time. But it didn’t matter at all, because nonaffiliated and more casual voters don’t show up unless they have someone to vote FOR not someone to vote AGAINST. Not enough ordinary people, not the people hanging out on lemmy politics subs, but just normal working people, were convinced that Kamala would make any meaningful improvement in their lives. Meanwhile, Trump was making an immoral, but very clear and direct case of “I will raise your wages and lower housing costs by deporting millions of immigrants.” Trump made a direct case for how he was going to improve the lives of some portion of the population. Kamala didn’t. And that’s why she lost.

And no, screaming about democracy doesn’t work. It’s a piss poor election strategy. The vast majority of the population doesn’t feel that we actually live in an effective democracy anyway. People don’t feel the need to protect a system that isn’t serving their interests.

Exactly. These people are exhausting. Like, have they not seen the current popularity figures of the Democrats? Their popularity is in the shitter because they STILL have no platform beyond “we’re not Trump.” And yet, this thread is still full of centrist muppets blindly parroting, “well, at least they’re better than Trump.” No shit. And that’s why leftists almost universally did vote for Kamala. But then these smug assholes, equipped with a hose running directly from their anus to their nostrils, have the gall to come in here and parrot the same tired rhetoric that caused Kamala to lose in 2024, Hillary to lose in 2016, and would have caused Biden to lose in 2020 if not for Covid.

Just seriously. These dense motherfuckers. When will they realize that being simply better than the Republican isn’t enough to actually win elections. It’s enough to get the left to reluctantly vote for the candidate, but it won’t actually drive out enough ordinary non-politically obsessed people to win an election. People need something to vote FOR. Not something merely to vote AGAINST.

Frankly, at this point, I assume anyone still bitching about leftists not voting for Harris is just a Republican. Non-affiliated and casual voters cost Kamala the election. The leftists almost universally held their nose and voted for Harris. But these Republicans like to foment division on the left, so they try to continually keep the narrative alive that Democrats just need to be a tiny iota better than Republicans, even though that strategy results in a Republican being elected again and again.

Look to the outcomes to understand motives. If following someone’s message results in Republicans winning again and again, odds are good that they’re simply a Republican.

You’re holding up a giant sign that says,

“Surely those people willing to sacrifice another group’s very existence will fight to stand up for MY civil rights!”

This is just the left version of Leopards Eating Faces. No one who supports a genocide will lift a finger to protect your civil rights when they are threatened. The only people they care about are themselves. You are not one of the people that someone like Kamala or Biden consider worthy of respect or even consideration. You are beneath them just like the Gazans. If you support a genocide, you clearly view people as expendable and worthy of giving away at the political bargaining table.

You learned nothing from the “first they came for…” poem.

Found the Republican. Republicans never miss a chance to try and stir up shit among the left.

If the shooter turns themselves in, do they get the money? OwO

Watching the media cow tow to white nationalism has been a really dark moment the last few days. The context everyone needs to know about Kirk is that we literally executed people like him at Nuremberg for doing the exact same type of thing he did. Except back then the debate bros were holding vigorous discussions about “the Jewish question.”

Imagine the world where this actually was a meme shot gone wrong. Maybe Kirk went a little nuts and decided to try to duplicate Trump’s miracle near miss. The ultimate way to build credit among the right wing. Kirk hires a sharpshooter to give him a near miss, to just graze him with a bullet. And…well…the sharpshooter missed…

Now, I don’t find this scenario particularly likely, as I don’t think any of these right wing social media goobers are brave enough to actually put their person in such direct risk like that. And you have to be pretty fucking dense to hire someone to shoot a gun in your direction. But it is fun to imagine that wonderfully absurd scenario.

Sure. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t deserve it. In a just world he would be tried and hanged. Unfortunately we do not live in a just world. Best we get is “those who live by the sword will die by the sword.”

Of course it was deserved. We hanged people at Nuremberg for doing the exact same thing Kirk spent his whole life doing.

Kirk didn’t deserve to be shot. In a just world, he would have been tried and hanged for incitement to genocide, just like we did to men like him at Nuremberg.

As a reminder, we hanged people at Nuremberg for doing exactly what Charlie Kirk spent his whole career doing.