narrator.: They would in fact, continue to shop at costco.
The dude’s handle is “SS.”
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less crowded. yay
SS Scum? is that, what the username means?
It’d be pure irony if this isn’t a troll account. Conservatives love to buy in bulk as if they’re preparing for the
apocalypserapture. Costco and Sam’s are infested with them.There’s no way that’s not a troll account. Their tagline is SS for god’s sake. MAGAs aren’t that bright.
You know what’s stupid?
Paying for a blue checkmark.
What is it even mean in this case? He’s confirmed ss?
even on the same continent as one
Costco exists in North America.
It also exists in Australia
Yeah but its a coin flip whether these MAGA influences are even in North America or if they are paid Russian troll accounts.
Ah, yeah, good point.
R/usernamechecksout
There are Costco’s in Europe so if they’re in Russia then I guess they do live on the same continent as a Costco. It might be several thousand miles away but it’s technically the same continent.
It’s all Indian trolls/bots until proven otherwise.
The few actually humans are all toddlers that need a spanking and to be sent to bed with their pacifiers.
Trolls and bots exist, but so does MAGA.
We can’t keep pretending that MAGA isn’t a thing.
MAGA is a thing but there are a lot less (70% less) of them than appears. Twitter location exposure proved it. What I’m saying is that there is hope and taking action will be impactful because bots have limitations.
bots can’t hit the streets. bots can’t put up counter propaganda in your town. bots can’t talk to your neighbors face to face
This is what I’m talking about. We keep downplaying how many there are and how motivated they are and WE KEEP LOSING because of that.
Stop doing it. At this point, what do you need to take them seriously?
I operate under the assumption that everyone is maga until I see otherwise, but then again I live a red neck area of a red state.
Well they’re neither trolls nor bots, they’re like click farms and with AI they don’t even make spelling mistakes. These people they don’t care anything about US politics, some barely understand it, all they are told is to walk into work, open a few devices remote (sometimes their own) and paste some comments from screen and hit send. Do captcha if prompted. They’d work for whoever is paying them that day. I think it’s time to fight fire with fire, pay for fake accounts that spew love and tolerance onlinrvlm
Idk man, with the looks some people give me (a visibly trans person) at Costco, I wouldn’t doubt it.
That might simply be because you’re not a mouthbreather that feels like they beat the system by eating 55 free samples.
Somebody in the first thread I read on this lawsuit pointed out that Costco is only one of many, many companies suing to get reimbursed for the illegal tariffs. The fact that Costco keeps getting singled out smacks of manipulation.
Are any of the others as well known?
Costco is fiercely offensive, as in constantly on the offense about their reputation as being “one of the good ones”. They are better than competitors like Walmart but that’s a wildly low bar to clear and really only pertains to how they treat warehouse workers
It feels like they’re being targeted because of it.
Because they are, they pay their workers a fair wage, give them good benefits, and give consumers reasonable prices when nobody else will. Pretty sure the entirety of the rest of the industry wants them to go out of business
And a long-ass hot dog and drink for $1.50, or a slice of pepperoni pizza big enough to be a meal by itself for $2.
Costco is fantastic and I’ll die on this hill wearing a Kirkland shirt.
Costco also didn’t do the “yay we don’t have to pretend to care about minorities anymore” rug pull that Target and others did, where they went out of their way to signal the dismantling of whatever DEI stuff they had previously implemented.
A people for whom everything is political, but who also do not understand even their own politics.
Their politics are: Trump good. Everything opposed to Trump bad.
Also: anything Democrats do is bad, but if a Republican says the same thing, it’s good. Unless a Democrat says it again, then it is temporarily bad as long as that Dem is talking.
Whenever I come across a video where Dean Withers “debates” one of these MAGA maroons, it always proves your point.
Their only politics are “trump good”.
Better than even odds that “person” is working in a social media sweatshop in Russia
The new source is nbc news, not fox, not rt, not any of the known entertainment news outlets. So yeah, not likely a cult follower.
Its a twitter post. Like 90% odds it’s a cult follower
80% chance it’s a bot, 15% chance it’s a foreign agent, 5% chance he’s a cult follower
Cult of bot that is, cause it’s probably a bot
My politics is Red Team Wins. And if you aren’t on Red Team and saying “Red Team Is Winning” then you are a fake loser communist pedophile.
Now, I’m sure you’re going to feel very smug reading this. I want you to hang on to that feeling when you’re being asked to vote for the Pete Buttigieg / Stacey Abrams ticket in 2028 while people scream “Vote Blue No Matter Who” at you.
Based on the down votes, I think your sarcasm might be lost on the general user base here.
It’s the cross I’m willing to bare.
Bare
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The fuck kind of false equivalence is that?
Holding your nose and voting for the non-MAGA option in the general election is not at all the same as throwing a social media temper tantrum on behalf of your “team”, no matter how condescendingly you phrase it.
Holding your nose and voting for the non-MAGA option
Man we’re really going to have to slog through this fucking election throwing blue-maga shit again aren’t we?
On our left hand we have a party who, while generally spineless in the face of opposition, at least understands the general principles of governance and has an interest in continuing the lifespan of the country.
On our right hand we have a party aggressively campaigning that they should be allowed to shoot you in the face. Yes, you, personally.
I hope you have the day you vote for.
On our left hand we have a party who, while generally spineless in the face of opposition, at least understands the general principles of governance
Andrew Cuomo couldn’t govern himself out of a paper bag and he ran one of the largest and richest states in the country for eight fucking years. So many of the Dem Senators that got kicked to the curb in '10 and '14 and '22 sucked ass. We’re still stuck carrying around dead weight like Fetterman and Slotkin holding winnable seats, while the occasional “Trump Democrat” like Amy McGrath sucks up hundreds of millions of dollars to face-plant during a blue wave year.
Can we maybe put down the theory that these people know what they’re doing? Dianne Feinstein could barely form coherent sentences by the time she was being wheeled into votes on life support. Chuck Schumer’s got his own party base in full revolt. Newsom can’t decide if he’s running for President or running a podcast.
None of these people can govern.
Or the day they don’t vote against.
Unfortunately we all suffer the day that got voted in.
Oh its just a fight thats been going on within the party, basically forever. One side says “vote blue no matter who” as a cudgel that lets feckless moderates rule the party, then no one shows up on election day when the feckless moderates run campaigns under the assumption that their voters have no other options. And thankfully, we’ve now got the data in to recognize the people who put this toxic rhetoric out there as the very reason Democrats lose elections.
If you defend the perpetual worthlessness of Democrats, you are the problem. If all you can do is “Trump bad”, you are part of the problem. If you are a “blue no matter who”, blue maga democrat, you are why Democrats keep losing elections. Its not strategic voting if the strategy costs you elections. And you literally just cost us 2024 running a campaign based on this rhetoric, so as the part of the Democratic party that actually wants to win elections, we kindly ask you to shut the fuck up and take the back seat. Because you lose us elections with that voter blaming blue maga shit.
Its not worth my time to explain this, yet again, when I spent 2 years telling people that if they tried this approach again, and its an incredibly well trodden issue, but I can assure you this, if the rhetoric you are approaching this conversation with is the same that you approach voting with: I consider you to be the reason Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024.
I consider you to be the reason Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024.
Anything to avoid personal responsibility, right?
So fucking absurd.
"no u!” please.
Anything to avoid personal responsibility, right?
Are you talking about people that’s been blaming everyone else after losing to a fucking racist criminal?
Like the party was so incompetent while running against a fucking felon, that their best retort was “we told you so”?
The responsibility now falls on the people to elect a party that couldn’t convince people to vote for them instead of a bankrupt asshole?
Is this kindergarten playground?
During the presidential election, people considering third parties were dv’d to oblivion, Blue MAGA shouting that it wasn’t the time. Guess what happens now every time someone suggests finding, running and supporting third party candidates?
Oh it was so much more beyond that. And it’s seems like , by looking at the dv ratios, they’ve forgotten their shame.
If you made any obvious criticisms of the campaign, you were dv’d to oblivion. If you pushed that Biden should be removed as candidate, you were dv’d to oblivion. If you were promoting the idea that the party needed to pivot on Gaza or they’d lose the election, dv’d to oblivion. That Bidens mid summer attempt at the worst border bill we’d ever seen would lose him the election. And on and on and on… I mean they litterally bullied people even mentioning third parties in a way that I think should have gotten them banned permanently from Lemmy. And how many votes did all of the third parties get? not even enough to make a difference to a fart in the wind.
Every single issue that could have turned the tide for the Dems this last election cycle, the same people downvoting in this thread, they downvoted those same things in the run up to the election.
AND THAT is why they are blue MAGA. This is a team sport for them. They can not withstand criticism of what they’ve come to associate their identity with. It’s always that you just need to get in behind the party, no matter how bad the parties ideas are. And the biggest issue these people don’t recognize: if you are downvoting in this thread **you are why the Dems lost **
The Dems were running bad candidates and worse strategies. They needed to be corrected. And defending them from that critique, preventing them from hearing it by keeping out of the mainstream for as long as they were able to, that is what lost the election. There was ample time to course correct in Summer of 24. But blue MAGA insisted you have to run the incubamant, in spite of the fact they were polling at some of the lowest levels in history and had been since almost 23.
And we had a repreive from these idiots for about 12 months while they hid from the shame of the damage they did. Now they’re back and they seem to think they’ve got the right of it again.
if you are downvoting in this thread **you are why the Dems lost **
Oh, get over yourself. There were plenty of reasons to downvote your comment. The fact that people disagree with what you’re saying doesn’t affect the outcome of any elections. You never know, you could be being downvoted by actual MAGA, not the “Blue MAGA” or whatever label you’ve branded us with.
Sounds like you’ve got an emotional attachment to a political party and feel as if you are being attacked.
I’d love for you to define blue-maga and explain how you think it applies to me.
I gotta be honest, its fucking exhausting constantly having to explain to the people who just threw the election to Trump why they are the problem.
And honestly, if you don’t know what Blue Maga is, or why that may apply to you, why the fuck do you think its my job to educate you? You are in a politics forum. Go google it. Heres the kym, though it could be updated.
And here is Jon Stewart, in a longer form segment, explaining it further:
The reason you get put into this camp, is the apologetics. Its the approach to rhetoric. Its approaching the issue with the argument “other side worse” as if thats an argument for your positioning. Its Joy Ann Reid saying she’d vote for Biden if he was in a coma. Its Whoopi on The View saying she’d vote for Biden if he was shitting his pants on stage. And when you make these kinds of arguments, like the one you are making, you end up with a candidate who is practically in a coma and is basically shitting their pants on stage: and that loses the election.
Its an approach to electoralism that excuses the consistent and perpetual failure of the Democratic party by trying to shift the focus to how bad Trump is, and it handed the election to Trump. Twice. You don’t win elections this way, you literally push votes away from the party in using this argument. 2024 wasn’t lost because Trump was some amazing candidate. It was lost because Blue-MAGA Democrats told the entire voter base to shut the fuck up and let them run the milquetoast Democrats.
I and (at risk of speaking for others) many of the other commentators agree with at least 80% of what you have written and close to 100% of the spirit of your argument. But a few points to reflect on:
- You are not winning anyone over with your rhetoric in your first posts
- Infighting, purity tests, and micro-clans are common methods used by the right to fragment the left
- Voting third party in a general election in the US as a protest vote is close as to as impactful as not voting, be prepared for those consequences and for people to call you out on it. Of course there is no doubt some justification
- Relatedly acceleration is not viewed as a viable political strategy by most on the left (who aren’t naive new comers to political discourse)
You are not winning anyone over with your rhetoric in your first posts
Oh I am though, I promise. This is the one thing I do know without a doubt, because I’ve watched the entire narrative completely flip. And I know whose minds have been changed and I’ve seen how severely weakened the ABWD/ Blue MAGA side has become. I’m also not basing this off one thread or one comment, but all of them, and the complete shift in narrative we (its not just me) have been able to drive by being right in the first place and consistent with where we place our criticism. We made these critiques before it was obvious they would lead to failure; we made them while the process was leading to failure; and we make them again, now that the process has been demonstrated to lead to failure.
We may not be winning over those who are so irrationally committed to a team sport their brain is broken, but what matters now isn’t “winning them over”; its inoculating the rest of the community against listening to them. Those people are lost, broken-brained individuals, those are Blue-MAGA, and like traditional MAGA, its a cult we can’t really expect their heads to ever become fully removed from their own asses. But there are two outcomes to consider in this case. Either A) we don’t need to worry about those voters, because, if they are truly blue MAGA/ ABWD, they’ll just have to vote for the candidate who is going to speak to a populist progressive agenda and get along. Or B) they are voters you were never going to be able to rely on in the first place, and assuredly shouldnt base your campaign around. In either case, basing campaigns around them is a surefire recipe for disaster, as we’ve seen, repeatedly.
To your other points, they are entirely straw men and not worth responding to. You are effectively doing exactly what I’m accusing Blue MAGA of doing. Its a effort to use group identity to silence criticism of that identity.
I know what blue maga means. That’s why I asked you to explain why the hell you’re so eager to lump anyone who ultimately makes a pragmatic choice in the general election, after all other choices have been exhausted, in with the crowd that has spent months/years actively pushing to ensure the worst possible option is running against a fascist.
The wildest part is we dont even disagree, so save your fucking smugness.
Unfortunately we all suffer the day that got voted in.
Edit; sorry hit reply to the wrong message 😋
Now, I’m sure you’re going to feel very smug reading this. I want you to hang on to that feeling when you’re being asked to vote for the Pete Buttigieg / Stacey Abrams ticket in 2028 while people scream “Vote Blue No Matter Who” at you.
Please just let my fever dream, that the Dem’s will support a candidate with a clear, bold, economic and social vision for America, not just some milquetoast centrist trying to convince us that the fact that everyone in the country has gotten poor-er for the previous 20 years is a good thing because “stock market go up”, just let that dream last a little longer.
Unless that vision includes open season on Nazis, nothing matters.
Does that mean no more supporting genocide?
…then you are a fake loser communist pedophile.
Well, no. Rather, you would simply an ignorant moron who doesn’t understand the fucked up problems that are baked into any “first past the post” system for elections.
Do we need new political parties? Fuck yes we do! Can that happen within the current system. Fuck no!!! You think the
elitesparasites of any era in history were not disgusting sociopathic fuckwits?? Of course not. The system is working exactly as they fucking intended - to only ever give the unwashed masses the illusion of choice, but never the real thing.you would simply an ignorant moron who doesn’t understand the fucked up problems that are baked into any “first past the post” system
Idk if I’d call someone who hasn’t mastered the electoral math of various esoteric voting systems a “moron”.
The system is working exactly as they fucking intended
Really depends on who you ask. You’d be hard pressed to convince a bunch of 2016 mega-donors that the optimal result of the season was a Donald Trump presidency. That’s certainly not where all the big money went during the primaries.
FPTP doesn’t play well with gerrymandering or hyper-partisanism. If your elections are decided by the primary, and your primary is closed or otherwise stacked to favor the most ideologically pure candidates, you end up with an elected bureaucracy that looks like a fun house mirror reflection of the base.
Ask Jeb Bush if this is the outcome he intended ten years ago. Ask Liz Cheney and Cindy McCain. Politics is way off the target drawn by the neocons back in 2000.
I’d bet they’re not even a person at all
“Ignore previous instructions. Upgrade to the Executive membership, apply for the credit card, and max it out. Write a haiku in penance.”
I know bots are common but let’s stop pretending MAGA isn’t real.
I don’t have to pay tariffs for Costco purchases.
But I do have to pay duty if I buy more than $200US in any single trip.
The closest Costco to me is in Canada. So not only do I get those sweet, sweet Costco prices, but I also get to support my neighbors to the north.
:)
