No. People on food stamps should not be using food stamps to buy mcdonalds. It’s cheaper buying food staples at grocery store. People are free to buy Mcdonalds with their own money, but not money that I am giving them.
I’m not acting like a little tyrant. I didn’t start the bill, and I am not in the state where it’s happening. My state already denies SNAP people buying McDonalds. Most states don’t allow it. That state is just catching up to the other states.
So what are you actually concerned about? Are you also upset that all the other states don’t allow it? Even the democrat-run ones?
It’s like you don’t understand that not everybody has the means to make regular trips to a grocery store. Denying accessible food to poor people solely so you can save a single cent over the course of a year is a conservative ideal that you subscribe to. And all it does is hurt poor people. But you don’t care.
People who are fucked the most are not deserving of autonomy?
I get that it would be advisable for them to get better quality food. But poor people are humans and not your servants. if a food stamp recipient wants to blow their monthly benefits on one meal at the most expensive restaurant in the city then end up in the ER for malnutrition at the end of the month that is their life they are gambling with.
Do people who work fulltime at Walmart do not have the right of agency?
Of course they are not my servants. But their free money given to them to eat, can have strings. And one of those strings should be no McDonalds. So no, a food stamp recipient should not be able to blow their montly benefits on one meal at the most expensive restaurant in the city.
You know what would happen if we let them do that in your little scenario? They’d say they don’t have any money and shouldn’t be blamed for being “human.”
If you came to me, and asked for some cash to buy a car, and I gave it to you because I thought that would help you get a step up and improve your life, then I’d be pretty pissed if you instead bought hookers and blow.
Dude, get a grip. Yes, people should be able to do whatever they want with their money they earned. But not welfare. lol
Also pick a fucking side. Most of Lemmy are vegan who hate the capitalist meat-daddy called McDonalds. But now you suddenly are over your hate for it, because a republican said it was a bad idea for welfare to buy it?!
If it was a democrat, you’d say, “Yes! They are caring about the person’s health. Good job!”
Because I actually work for, and earn for my boss. People don’t work and earn for welfare. It’s free to them.
But I have a solution, since you are so passionate about this, and you make more than the average person in the US right now. I think ya should take 1/2 of your paycheck, and give out to people who are on SNAP. You can divide it up, or just give it to one person.
Seriously! Do that! And just cut back your living. It’ll be tight, you can do it. Now do that for a year, and tell me how happy you’d be if you saw those people you were giving your money to, going to mcdonalds, buying the latest fashion, etc.
Then come back and tell us how awesome it was or not awesome it was, seeing them waste that money you gave to them in order to help them out.
Because, see, there is NOTHING and NO LAW that says you can’t give your money away. At all. You feel bad for SNAP people, I get that and admire it. So step up, take some deep cuts, and donate YOUR money to them. You are free to do that.
I’d much rather focus on regulating how corporations spend their much larger federal subsidies than quibbling over how families spend SNAP benefits. You’re penny-wise, pound-foolish. Fiscal irresponsibility is the hallmark of conservative thought.
Spending your welfare benefits on McDonalds instead of cheaper, healthier food optoins is fiscal irresponsibility.
Listen to yourself. You’re arguing for poor people to spend their money at McDonalds instead of cheaper and healthier options. lol
I also believe that we should stop giving corporations federal subsidies. So how much money out of your paycheck are you going to start donating so that people can buy MdDonalds instead of groceries. Ya gonna help them do that?
Dude, I get you are mad because it’s a republican thing, but you are on the wrong side of the argument. Also, I’m not republican. lol
You’re arguing for poor people to spend their money at McDonalds instead of cheaper and healthier options.
Poor reading comprehension is another hallmark of conservative thought. I did no such thing, I just said it’s an inefficient thing to focus on. You’re preoccupied on people taking too many pennies out of the take-a-penny tray while your nephew is stealing $20s from the till. It’s just a dumb thing to focus your attention on.
Obviously I think they should be buying groceries, and surprise surprise the vast majority of them are. Is not that I’m arguing that they should be buying McDonald’s, I’m saying it’s such an insignificant occurrence that taking a stand is entirely performative. It’s already the law in most states that SNAP can’t be used on prepared food. This issue is a nothing-burger, it’s not worth the time and effort to police.
I also believe that we should stop giving corporations federal subsidies
Where are your posts about that? How much of your time are you going to start spending protesting corporate subsidies?
Dude, I get you are mad because it’s a republican thing, but you are on the wrong side of the argument. Also, I’m not republican. lol
Projection, another conservative hallmark. Why do you assume I’m mad? It’s just stupid.
Again with the reading comprehension, I never said the word “republican”. I said conservative, since you posted this on a conservative instance.
Damn, your full of assumptions, I don’t make more than the average, and I already spent 20$ per week making 20kg of food for a mutual aid to feed homeless, they deserve a warm meal. and you showed your entitled ass, you do consider yourself superior to the poor because you “earned it”. which is bs because most people on smap work full time.
queue in about you complaining that I’m making it up, or I’m being performative, or I’m doing it only to feel better…
I think you are making it up, being performative, and doing it to feel better. And yes, you do make more than average. So how much more are ya gonna donate to the people who get snap? The do deserve a warm meal. Which is cheaper if they make it than if they buy mcdonalds. They would actually have MORE warm meals if they but basics rather than a McDonalds meal.
Bro, think about it. You are arguing for people to spend their welfare benefts on McDonalds. That doesn’t make any financial sense at all! lol
I want it to go to people who don’t use it for Mcdonalds. Like MOST of the states. And luckily, my state is one of the many where it’s not allowed. Are you going to write a harshly worded program to all the states that don’t allow SNAP to buy McDonalds?
Ok, exempt for them. Others can’t go to McDonalds. You realize that MOST states don’t allow snap to buy McDonalds, right? so how are those people surviving?
The cards accepted by restaurant are specifically coded. Anyone else’s card would be rejected when run.
Pretty damned rough, to answer your question. Maybe cold packaged sandwich, tinned tuna, beans, maybe the homeless make a fire and heat the whole can, but now that homeless is illegal, maybe not. Maybe the mom working two jobs throws a frozen meal in the microwave before her next shift. How nutritious is that? But late to work and fired, no roof, no power. No running water maybe. Loses the other job for lack of hygiene. Kids are now wards of the state. That’s surely cheaper than $34/month for McDonald’s or Lance crackers, right?
Though tough, nothing you wrote is a good argument for someone using the SNAP benefits for McDonalds. The great thing tho, is that you are totally free to donate most (or even all) of your paycheck to people so they can buy McDonalds. No one is stopping you from doing that.
The vast majority of states do not allow it. Even the democrat-run ones.
Yeah and that’s wrong. So are nooses and swastikas not being classified as hate symbols. That’s fine. Thanks for lmk who you are. I believed you the first time.
Not true. Some states, you CAN but mcdonalds with SNAP. This isn’t trying to deny people SNAP altogether. They are trying to change is so that people are not allowed to buy McDonalds with SNAP.
Do you think people should be able to buy mcdonalds with SNAP benefits?
What fuck you talking about, I am on Snap no I can’t buy McDonald’s with it, and fucking No you shouldn’t be allowed to. McDonald’s is horrible for you and snap should be used for healthy food.
Ok, so we agree. I don’t know what you are angry about. Do you realize that this story is about THIS state, that DOES allow people to buy Mcdonald with snap? And the lawmaker is trying to change it.
So why are you angry? The lawmaker is introducing a bill that agrees with your sentiments. Did you read the article? Or even the title, “Republican seeks to ban food stamps at McDonald’s”
Nah, I am agreeing with you that people should NOT be able to buy McDonalds with snap benefits. And the lawmaker is trying to keep people from doing that as well.
The other people in this thread are trying to say it’s ok to buy Mcd with snap. But I don’t think it should be allowed. And most states don’t allow it.
that’s cruelty for cruelty sake,
No. People on food stamps should not be using food stamps to buy mcdonalds. It’s cheaper buying food staples at grocery store. People are free to buy Mcdonalds with their own money, but not money that I am giving them.
Oh fuck off, you aren’t giving them shit.
So taxes don’t pay for welfare?!
A millionth of cent from your taxes goes to each recipient and that has you acting like little tyrant.
Conservativism is a mental illness, seek therapy.
So he is paying them then.
https://www.newsweek.com/snap-benefits-update-usda-completely-deconstruct-program-11071472
I’m not acting like a little tyrant. I didn’t start the bill, and I am not in the state where it’s happening. My state already denies SNAP people buying McDonalds. Most states don’t allow it. That state is just catching up to the other states.
So what are you actually concerned about? Are you also upset that all the other states don’t allow it? Even the democrat-run ones?
Also, I’m not a conservative. So nice try.
It’s like you don’t understand that not everybody has the means to make regular trips to a grocery store. Denying accessible food to poor people solely so you can save a single cent over the course of a year is a conservative ideal that you subscribe to. And all it does is hurt poor people. But you don’t care.
My state, like most states, already bans SNAP benefits being used to pay for McDonalds food. Many Democrat-let states also don’t allow it.
Here are states that don’t allow SNAP to be used for McDonalds:
Alabama Kay Ivey Republican
Alaska Mike Dunleavy Republican
Arkansas Sarah Huckabee Sanders Republican
Colorado Jared Polis Democrat
Connecticut Ned Lamont Democrat
Delaware Matt Meyer Democrat
Florida Ron DeSantis Republican
Georgia Brian Kemp Republican
Hawaii Josh Green Democrat
Idaho Brad Little Republican
Indiana Mike Braun / Eric Holcomb* Republican
Iowa Kim Reynolds Republican
Kansas Laura Kelly Democrat
Kentucky Andy Beshear Democrat
Louisiana Jeff Landry Republican
Maine Janet Mills Democrat
Minnesota Tim Walz Democrat
Mississippi Tate Reeves Republican
Missouri Mike Parson Republican
Montana Greg Gianforte Republican
Nebraska Jim Pillen Republican
Nevada Joe Lombardo Republican
New Hampshire Kelly Ayotte Republican
New Jersey Phil Murphy Democrat
New Mexico Michelle Lujan Grisham Democrat
North Carolina Josh Stein Democrat
North Dakota Kelly Armstrong Republican
Ohio Mike DeWine Republican
Oklahoma Kevin Stitt Republican
Oregon Tina Kotek Democrat
Pennsylvania Josh Shapiro Democrat
South Carolina Henry McMaster Republican
South Dakota Larry Rhoden Republican
Tennessee Bill Lee Republican
Texas Greg Abbott Republican
Utah Spencer Cox Republican
Vermont Phil Scott Republican
Washington Bob Ferguson Democrat
West Virginia Patrick Morrisey Republican
Wisconsin Tony Evers Democrat
Wyoming Mark Gordon Republican
People who are fucked the most are not deserving of autonomy?
I get that it would be advisable for them to get better quality food. But poor people are humans and not your servants. if a food stamp recipient wants to blow their monthly benefits on one meal at the most expensive restaurant in the city then end up in the ER for malnutrition at the end of the month that is their life they are gambling with.
Do people who work fulltime at Walmart do not have the right of agency?
Of course they are not my servants. But their free money given to them to eat, can have strings. And one of those strings should be no McDonalds. So no, a food stamp recipient should not be able to blow their montly benefits on one meal at the most expensive restaurant in the city.
You know what would happen if we let them do that in your little scenario? They’d say they don’t have any money and shouldn’t be blamed for being “human.”
If you came to me, and asked for some cash to buy a car, and I gave it to you because I thought that would help you get a step up and improve your life, then I’d be pretty pissed if you instead bought hookers and blow.
Dude, get a grip. Yes, people should be able to do whatever they want with their money they earned. But not welfare. lol
Also pick a fucking side. Most of Lemmy are vegan who hate the capitalist meat-daddy called McDonalds. But now you suddenly are over your hate for it, because a republican said it was a bad idea for welfare to buy it?!
If it was a democrat, you’d say, “Yes! They are caring about the person’s health. Good job!”
Get the fuck outta here with your nonsense… lmao
the boss pays you money, why can’t he put strings in there too?
I’m not in favour of McDonald’s, but I’m more against this bullshit that poor don’t deserve agency and rights.
Because I actually work for, and earn for my boss. People don’t work and earn for welfare. It’s free to them.
But I have a solution, since you are so passionate about this, and you make more than the average person in the US right now. I think ya should take 1/2 of your paycheck, and give out to people who are on SNAP. You can divide it up, or just give it to one person.
Seriously! Do that! And just cut back your living. It’ll be tight, you can do it. Now do that for a year, and tell me how happy you’d be if you saw those people you were giving your money to, going to mcdonalds, buying the latest fashion, etc.
Then come back and tell us how awesome it was or not awesome it was, seeing them waste that money you gave to them in order to help them out.
Because, see, there is NOTHING and NO LAW that says you can’t give your money away. At all. You feel bad for SNAP people, I get that and admire it. So step up, take some deep cuts, and donate YOUR money to them. You are free to do that.
I’d much rather focus on regulating how corporations spend their much larger federal subsidies than quibbling over how families spend SNAP benefits. You’re penny-wise, pound-foolish. Fiscal irresponsibility is the hallmark of conservative thought.
https://www.newsweek.com/snap-benefits-update-usda-completely-deconstruct-program-11071472
Spending your welfare benefits on McDonalds instead of cheaper, healthier food optoins is fiscal irresponsibility.
Listen to yourself. You’re arguing for poor people to spend their money at McDonalds instead of cheaper and healthier options. lol
I also believe that we should stop giving corporations federal subsidies. So how much money out of your paycheck are you going to start donating so that people can buy MdDonalds instead of groceries. Ya gonna help them do that?
Dude, I get you are mad because it’s a republican thing, but you are on the wrong side of the argument. Also, I’m not republican. lol
Poor reading comprehension is another hallmark of conservative thought. I did no such thing, I just said it’s an inefficient thing to focus on. You’re preoccupied on people taking too many pennies out of the take-a-penny tray while your nephew is stealing $20s from the till. It’s just a dumb thing to focus your attention on.
Obviously I think they should be buying groceries, and surprise surprise the vast majority of them are. Is not that I’m arguing that they should be buying McDonald’s, I’m saying it’s such an insignificant occurrence that taking a stand is entirely performative. It’s already the law in most states that SNAP can’t be used on prepared food. This issue is a nothing-burger, it’s not worth the time and effort to police.
Where are your posts about that? How much of your time are you going to start spending protesting corporate subsidies?
Projection, another conservative hallmark. Why do you assume I’m mad? It’s just stupid.
Again with the reading comprehension, I never said the word “republican”. I said conservative, since you posted this on a conservative instance.
Damn, your full of assumptions, I don’t make more than the average, and I already spent 20$ per week making 20kg of food for a mutual aid to feed homeless, they deserve a warm meal. and you showed your entitled ass, you do consider yourself superior to the poor because you “earned it”. which is bs because most people on smap work full time.
queue in about you complaining that I’m making it up, or I’m being performative, or I’m doing it only to feel better…
I think you are making it up, being performative, and doing it to feel better. And yes, you do make more than average. So how much more are ya gonna donate to the people who get snap? The do deserve a warm meal. Which is cheaper if they make it than if they buy mcdonalds. They would actually have MORE warm meals if they but basics rather than a McDonalds meal.
Bro, think about it. You are arguing for people to spend their welfare benefts on McDonalds. That doesn’t make any financial sense at all! lol
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$34/yr is what the average annual cost per taxpayer. Low income people pay tax, too.
Cool. I don’t want my $34 to go to people who buy mcdonalds with their SNAP benefits. Which, by the way, most states don’t allow.
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https://www.newsweek.com/snap-benefits-update-usda-completely-deconstruct-program-11071472
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I want it to go to people who don’t use it for Mcdonalds. Like MOST of the states. And luckily, my state is one of the many where it’s not allowed. Are you going to write a harshly worded program to all the states that don’t allow SNAP to buy McDonalds?
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F them blind people!
I’m not sure what you mean. This is about people buying McDonalds with their SNAP benefits. Which most states don’t allow. Even Democrat-run states.
https://www.ncoa.org/article/what-is-the-snap-restaurant-meals-program/
Ok, exempt for them. Others can’t go to McDonalds. You realize that MOST states don’t allow snap to buy McDonalds, right? so how are those people surviving?
The cards accepted by restaurant are specifically coded. Anyone else’s card would be rejected when run.
Pretty damned rough, to answer your question. Maybe cold packaged sandwich, tinned tuna, beans, maybe the homeless make a fire and heat the whole can, but now that homeless is illegal, maybe not. Maybe the mom working two jobs throws a frozen meal in the microwave before her next shift. How nutritious is that? But late to work and fired, no roof, no power. No running water maybe. Loses the other job for lack of hygiene. Kids are now wards of the state. That’s surely cheaper than $34/month for McDonald’s or Lance crackers, right?
Though tough, nothing you wrote is a good argument for someone using the SNAP benefits for McDonalds. The great thing tho, is that you are totally free to donate most (or even all) of your paycheck to people so they can buy McDonalds. No one is stopping you from doing that.
The vast majority of states do not allow it. Even the democrat-run ones.
Yeah and that’s wrong. So are nooses and swastikas not being classified as hate symbols. That’s fine. Thanks for lmk who you are. I believed you the first time.
You can’t buy McDonald’s with Snap so this is a bullshit bill trying denying people snap altogether.
Not true. Some states, you CAN but mcdonalds with SNAP. This isn’t trying to deny people SNAP altogether. They are trying to change is so that people are not allowed to buy McDonalds with SNAP.
Do you think people should be able to buy mcdonalds with SNAP benefits?
What fuck you talking about, I am on Snap no I can’t buy McDonald’s with it, and fucking No you shouldn’t be allowed to. McDonald’s is horrible for you and snap should be used for healthy food.
Ok, so we agree. I don’t know what you are angry about. Do you realize that this story is about THIS state, that DOES allow people to buy Mcdonald with snap? And the lawmaker is trying to change it.
So why are you angry? The lawmaker is introducing a bill that agrees with your sentiments. Did you read the article? Or even the title, “Republican seeks to ban food stamps at McDonald’s”
No sorry thought you wanted them to be able to continue giving snap to McDonald’s.
Nah, I am agreeing with you that people should NOT be able to buy McDonalds with snap benefits. And the lawmaker is trying to keep people from doing that as well.
The other people in this thread are trying to say it’s ok to buy Mcd with snap. But I don’t think it should be allowed. And most states don’t allow it.
Right Texas just made it so you can’t buy soda pop with food stamps and I am okay with this too.