• 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    People who are fucked the most are not deserving of autonomy?

    I get that it would be advisable for them to get better quality food. But poor people are humans and not your servants. if a food stamp recipient wants to blow their monthly benefits on one meal at the most expensive restaurant in the city then end up in the ER for malnutrition at the end of the month that is their life they are gambling with.

    Do people who work fulltime at Walmart do not have the right of agency?

    • Aether Mechanic@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.orgOP
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      Of course they are not my servants. But their free money given to them to eat, can have strings. And one of those strings should be no McDonalds. So no, a food stamp recipient should not be able to blow their montly benefits on one meal at the most expensive restaurant in the city.

      You know what would happen if we let them do that in your little scenario? They’d say they don’t have any money and shouldn’t be blamed for being “human.”

      If you came to me, and asked for some cash to buy a car, and I gave it to you because I thought that would help you get a step up and improve your life, then I’d be pretty pissed if you instead bought hookers and blow.

      Dude, get a grip. Yes, people should be able to do whatever they want with their money they earned. But not welfare. lol

      Also pick a fucking side. Most of Lemmy are vegan who hate the capitalist meat-daddy called McDonalds. But now you suddenly are over your hate for it, because a republican said it was a bad idea for welfare to buy it?!

      If it was a democrat, you’d say, “Yes! They are caring about the person’s health. Good job!”

      Get the fuck outta here with your nonsense… lmao

      • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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        the boss pays you money, why can’t he put strings in there too?

        I’m not in favour of McDonald’s, but I’m more against this bullshit that poor don’t deserve agency and rights.

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          Because I actually work for, and earn for my boss. People don’t work and earn for welfare. It’s free to them.

          But I have a solution, since you are so passionate about this, and you make more than the average person in the US right now. I think ya should take 1/2 of your paycheck, and give out to people who are on SNAP. You can divide it up, or just give it to one person.

          Seriously! Do that! And just cut back your living. It’ll be tight, you can do it. Now do that for a year, and tell me how happy you’d be if you saw those people you were giving your money to, going to mcdonalds, buying the latest fashion, etc.

          Then come back and tell us how awesome it was or not awesome it was, seeing them waste that money you gave to them in order to help them out.

          Because, see, there is NOTHING and NO LAW that says you can’t give your money away. At all. You feel bad for SNAP people, I get that and admire it. So step up, take some deep cuts, and donate YOUR money to them. You are free to do that.

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            I’d much rather focus on regulating how corporations spend their much larger federal subsidies than quibbling over how families spend SNAP benefits. You’re penny-wise, pound-foolish. Fiscal irresponsibility is the hallmark of conservative thought.

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              Spending your welfare benefits on McDonalds instead of cheaper, healthier food optoins is fiscal irresponsibility.

              Listen to yourself. You’re arguing for poor people to spend their money at McDonalds instead of cheaper and healthier options. lol

              I also believe that we should stop giving corporations federal subsidies. So how much money out of your paycheck are you going to start donating so that people can buy MdDonalds instead of groceries. Ya gonna help them do that?

              Dude, I get you are mad because it’s a republican thing, but you are on the wrong side of the argument. Also, I’m not republican. lol

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                You’re arguing for poor people to spend their money at McDonalds instead of cheaper and healthier options.

                Poor reading comprehension is another hallmark of conservative thought. I did no such thing, I just said it’s an inefficient thing to focus on. You’re preoccupied on people taking too many pennies out of the take-a-penny tray while your nephew is stealing $20s from the till. It’s just a dumb thing to focus your attention on.

                Obviously I think they should be buying groceries, and surprise surprise the vast majority of them are. Is not that I’m arguing that they should be buying McDonald’s, I’m saying it’s such an insignificant occurrence that taking a stand is entirely performative. It’s already the law in most states that SNAP can’t be used on prepared food. This issue is a nothing-burger, it’s not worth the time and effort to police.

                I also believe that we should stop giving corporations federal subsidies

                Where are your posts about that? How much of your time are you going to start spending protesting corporate subsidies?

                Dude, I get you are mad because it’s a republican thing, but you are on the wrong side of the argument. Also, I’m not republican. lol

                Projection, another conservative hallmark. Why do you assume I’m mad? It’s just stupid.

                Again with the reading comprehension, I never said the word “republican”. I said conservative, since you posted this on a conservative instance.

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                  It’s already the law in most states that SNAP can’t be used on prepared food.

                  But not in this lawmakers state. Did you get mad at the other states that say SNAP can’t be used on prepared food?

                  Where are your posts about that?

                  I have plenty of posts against the duopoly and how they suck. And if there were a news article today about corporate welfare, I’d be posting it.

                  Projection, another conservative hallmark. I said conservative, since you posted this on a conservative instance.

                  I’m not conservative. Are we now defined by the news article we post and the instance we post them on? I’ve posted more news articles on liberal instances than conservative instances, so does that make me liberal? I’ve posted anti-republican stories, so does that make me anti-republican?

                  You’re replying to posts on a conservative instance, does that make you a conservative?

                  Also, what makes you think this is a conservative instance? There are nothing in the guidelines of this instance that make it a conservative instance, and there are more non-conservative communities on here than there are conservative communities.

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                    Did you get mad at the other states that say SNAP can’t be used on prepared food?

                    Once again, still not mad. It’s just stupid and performative.

                    Also, what makes you think this is a conservative instance?

                    I misspoke, my bad. I meant community. The community is literally “Conservative and Conservative2”.

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            Damn, your full of assumptions, I don’t make more than the average, and I already spent 20$ per week making 20kg of food for a mutual aid to feed homeless, they deserve a warm meal. and you showed your entitled ass, you do consider yourself superior to the poor because you “earned it”. which is bs because most people on smap work full time.

            queue in about you complaining that I’m making it up, or I’m being performative, or I’m doing it only to feel better…

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              I think you are making it up, being performative, and doing it to feel better. And yes, you do make more than average. So how much more are ya gonna donate to the people who get snap? The do deserve a warm meal. Which is cheaper if they make it than if they buy mcdonalds. They would actually have MORE warm meals if they but basics rather than a McDonalds meal.

              Bro, think about it. You are arguing for people to spend their welfare benefts on McDonalds. That doesn’t make any financial sense at all! lol

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        $34/yr is what the average annual cost per taxpayer. Low income people pay tax, too.