• agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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    You’re arguing for poor people to spend their money at McDonalds instead of cheaper and healthier options.

    Poor reading comprehension is another hallmark of conservative thought. I did no such thing, I just said it’s an inefficient thing to focus on. You’re preoccupied on people taking too many pennies out of the take-a-penny tray while your nephew is stealing $20s from the till. It’s just a dumb thing to focus your attention on.

    Obviously I think they should be buying groceries, and surprise surprise the vast majority of them are. Is not that I’m arguing that they should be buying McDonald’s, I’m saying it’s such an insignificant occurrence that taking a stand is entirely performative. It’s already the law in most states that SNAP can’t be used on prepared food. This issue is a nothing-burger, it’s not worth the time and effort to police.

    I also believe that we should stop giving corporations federal subsidies

    Where are your posts about that? How much of your time are you going to start spending protesting corporate subsidies?

    Dude, I get you are mad because it’s a republican thing, but you are on the wrong side of the argument. Also, I’m not republican. lol

    Projection, another conservative hallmark. Why do you assume I’m mad? It’s just stupid.

    Again with the reading comprehension, I never said the word “republican”. I said conservative, since you posted this on a conservative instance.

    • Aether Mechanic@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.orgOP
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      It’s already the law in most states that SNAP can’t be used on prepared food.

      But not in this lawmakers state. Did you get mad at the other states that say SNAP can’t be used on prepared food?

      Where are your posts about that?

      I have plenty of posts against the duopoly and how they suck. And if there were a news article today about corporate welfare, I’d be posting it.

      Projection, another conservative hallmark. I said conservative, since you posted this on a conservative instance.

      I’m not conservative. Are we now defined by the news article we post and the instance we post them on? I’ve posted more news articles on liberal instances than conservative instances, so does that make me liberal? I’ve posted anti-republican stories, so does that make me anti-republican?

      You’re replying to posts on a conservative instance, does that make you a conservative?

      Also, what makes you think this is a conservative instance? There are nothing in the guidelines of this instance that make it a conservative instance, and there are more non-conservative communities on here than there are conservative communities.

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        Did you get mad at the other states that say SNAP can’t be used on prepared food?

        Once again, still not mad. It’s just stupid and performative.

        Also, what makes you think this is a conservative instance?

        I misspoke, my bad. I meant community. The community is literally “Conservative and Conservative2”.

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          It’s just stupid and performative.

          And was it “stupid and performative” in all the other states, including democrat-run states that ban snap from buying mcdonalds? Funny how those govs and lawmakers didn’t find it so stupid. It’s almost as if… as if… they did research on it.

          Here are the ones that don’t allow it. Man, seems like a lot of states being “stupid and performative” huh?

          Alabama Kay Ivey Republican

          Alaska Mike Dunleavy Republican

          Arkansas Sarah Huckabee Sanders Republican

          Colorado Jared Polis Democrat

          Connecticut Ned Lamont Democrat

          Delaware Matt Meyer Democrat

          Florida Ron DeSantis Republican

          Georgia Brian Kemp Republican

          Hawaii Josh Green Democrat

          Idaho Brad Little Republican

          Indiana Mike Braun / Eric Holcomb* Republican

          Iowa Kim Reynolds Republican

          Kansas Laura Kelly Democrat

          Kentucky Andy Beshear Democrat

          Louisiana Jeff Landry Republican

          Maine Janet Mills Democrat

          Minnesota Tim Walz Democrat

          Mississippi Tate Reeves Republican

          Missouri Mike Parson Republican

          Montana Greg Gianforte Republican

          Nebraska Jim Pillen Republican

          Nevada Joe Lombardo Republican

          New Hampshire Kelly Ayotte Republican

          New Jersey Phil Murphy Democrat

          New Mexico Michelle Lujan Grisham Democrat

          North Carolina Josh Stein Democrat

          North Dakota Kelly Armstrong Republican

          Ohio Mike DeWine Republican

          Oklahoma Kevin Stitt Republican

          Oregon Tina Kotek Democrat

          Pennsylvania Josh Shapiro Democrat

          South Carolina Henry McMaster Republican

          South Dakota Larry Rhoden Republican

          Tennessee Bill Lee Republican

          Texas Greg Abbott Republican

          Utah Spencer Cox Republican

          Vermont Phil Scott Republican

          Washington Bob Ferguson Democrat

          West Virginia Patrick Morrisey Republican

          Wisconsin Tony Evers Democrat

          Wyoming Mark Gordon Republican

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            Except that isn’t how it works. SNAP, by default, does not cover hot or prepared foods. What’s being referred here is the Restaurant Meals Program, which is an optional program states can choose to opt into. If they choose to do so, then certain SNAP recipients can qualify for RMP:

            To be eligible for the RMP, SNAP clients must be certified for SNAP in a state that has an RMP and all members of the household must be either:

            -Elderly (60 years of age or older);

            -disabled (receives disability or blindness payments or receives disability retirement benefits from a governmental agency because of a disability considered permanent);

            -homeless; or

            -a spouse of a SNAP client who is eligible for the RMP.

            This is a program designed specifically to help the elderly, disabled, and people without kitchens. The state has to opt in, and then they decide which restaurants are eligible. It’s almost as if… you didn’t actually research this policy.

            I don’t mind if the people who don’t have the means to cook eat some McDonald’s now and then. This is chasing after pennies instead of going after more significant ant drains on taxpayers. Yes, it’s stupid and performative.

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                Sure, no worries, unless you’re too old to cook, or too disabled, or literally can’t because you don’t have a house. You know, like everyone who qualifies.

                The entirety of SNAP costs the average taxpayer something like $34. Between the states that don’t participate, and the individuals who don’t qualify, how much is going to buy McDonald’s? Definitely less than a dollar per person, I’ll bet it’s probably under a dime.

                This time and effort is better spent chasing the hundreds of dollars we each pay to corporate welfare, or bloated defense spending, or any of the major expenses I don’t want my tax dollars financing, than scrounging for pennies at the expense of people who don’t have the means to cook for themselves.

                So yeah, stupid and performative.

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                  Between the states that don’t participate, and the individuals who don’t qualify, how much is going to buy McDonald’s?

                  I don’t know. I guess enough that the majority of states don’t allow it. Are they all stupid and performative?

                  States that don’s allow:

                  Here are the ones that don’t allow it:

                  Alabama Kay Ivey Republican

                  Alaska Mike Dunleavy Republican

                  Arkansas Sarah Huckabee Sanders Republican

                  Colorado Jared Polis Democrat

                  Connecticut Ned Lamont Democrat

                  Delaware Matt Meyer Democrat

                  Florida Ron DeSantis Republican

                  Georgia Brian Kemp Republican

                  Hawaii Josh Green Democrat

                  Idaho Brad Little Republican

                  Indiana Mike Braun / Eric Holcomb* Republican

                  Iowa Kim Reynolds Republican

                  Kansas Laura Kelly Democrat

                  Kentucky Andy Beshear Democrat

                  Louisiana Jeff Landry Republican

                  Maine Janet Mills Democrat

                  Minnesota Tim Walz Democrat

                  Mississippi Tate Reeves Republican

                  Missouri Mike Parson Republican

                  Montana Greg Gianforte Republican

                  Nebraska Jim Pillen Republican

                  Nevada Joe Lombardo Republican

                  New Hampshire Kelly Ayotte Republican

                  New Jersey Phil Murphy Democrat

                  New Mexico Michelle Lujan Grisham Democrat

                  North Carolina Josh Stein Democrat

                  North Dakota Kelly Armstrong Republican

                  Ohio Mike DeWine Republican

                  Oklahoma Kevin Stitt Republican

                  Oregon Tina Kotek Democrat

                  Pennsylvania Josh Shapiro Democrat

                  South Carolina Henry McMaster Republican

                  South Dakota Larry Rhoden Republican

                  Tennessee Bill Lee Republican

                  Texas Greg Abbott Republican

                  Utah Spencer Cox Republican

                  Vermont Phil Scott Republican

                  Washington Bob Ferguson Democrat

                  West Virginia Patrick Morrisey Republican

                  Wisconsin Tony Evers Democrat

                  Wyoming Mark Gordon Republican

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                    Can you read? I answered this already. The states that allow it explicitly chose to allow it. The states you listed didn’t actively decide to disallow it, they just didn’t choose to opt in. Have you considered that the ones who opted in did do the research, and decided it was a worthwhile program to employ? This argument is very stupid.

                    This isn’t even a case of Iowa opting out, this is a representative from Iowa trying to eliminate the program entirely. A program that directly helps people who don’t have the means to cook at home, for pennies per taxpayer. The qualifications are very explicitly spelled out: the elderly, the permanently disabled, and the homeless.

                    This program does real good for the vulnerable people who need it. You want to end that program to save a couple pennies. Actually, not even to save a couple pennies, to police how those pennies are spent. You won’t save any money, the only change is that the hungry and helpless will suffer. That’s performative.

                    Yes, stupid and performative.