A society is always about 3 days of hunger away from a violent revolution. Start your clocks.
The leopards! They hunger!
It’s mostly going to be the elderly who suffer. People just forget about old people. They can’t get out and go stand in line at food pantries.
Sometimes they don’t have anyone checking on them very often.
Most don’t know how to get online and find services and such.
If you have an elderly neighbor or family member. Try to check with them and see if they need help.
Fact: absolutely none of this would have happened if Kamala had won.
But uh but shes a woman. A brown woman. The horror,!
But she was going to kill Palestinians with her bare hands!
Yeah. But we would be listening to that laugh. I mean, did you even hear it?
This administration needs to be concerned about what happens when you have millions of people with nothing to lose anymore.
They want that
It’s mostly red states that get food stamps. …
yhea they want escalation.
but that doesn’t mean the best strategy is to do nothing.
Totally. But they have been begging for “Civil War”. Like it’s some Hero’s Journey and people won’t die. It’s so short sided and dumb I can’t believe they actually believe it’s for the better.
You can only get your civil war if there are two clear sides, divisible by geography and cultural lines.
When you just have a widespread, starving population, you get mobs and mass riots and government leadership dragged out of their homes and offices.
I am not sure at all what their game is. I know they want the chaos but surely they can’t be so dumb that they think this will… oh yeah, lol caught myself there. They’re that dumb.
DT is probably just thinking back fondly of his last visit to North Korea.
“Hey, what if I did that?!”
mate, it’s fascism, would you tell the french resistance against nazis to chill, because nazis want an excuse to escalate?
Good we should stop paying our taxes.
if there isn’t a government, why pay taxes to it?
actually, stupid question. but what percentage of people could do a tax strike, resulting in the government having no funds or means to go after all of them. and collapsing?
The issue is they will just write IOUs. It’s not like they can’t. They can also literally print money. So.
Vast majority of working people have federal taxes automatically deducted from their checks before they even see a dime. Most people get refunds at the end of the year instead of having to pay, so it would be up to the self-employed and basically anyone who doesn’t file a simple form to start withholding their taxes.
I guess we could talk about getting everyone to adjust their paycheck withholdings but most people live under the assumption that “everything will blow over by next year” whatever the circumstances.
Well they print money so not really any amount of people, but at this point you are probably off just paying taxes to your state, because the federal government is mostly just a Mafia middleman anyways, which has become very apparent under trump. Taking people’s own tax money away from them because they don’t like him or his terrible policies.
The reality is almost all of this money, well the part that is leftover to give back to the people, is given back to the states anyways, just with a bunch of strings and hands in it. The federal government likes this so that they can manipulate what is taught in schools and road laws and everything else. The states rely on getting their citizens money back from the federal government and so they get this defacto management by executive agencies and stuff.
Abolish the states = abolish taxes
We are a long, long, long, long way from doing away with borders, as true as the idea is for a better world.
Both sides.
BOOoOoTh SiIiiiiIIiiiiiiDESssssssssSsS!!
Biden is old, you see, and there was also a woman who wasn’t exactly adamant about Israel, so you have to starve now. But don’t worry, if you starve enough, something will surely happen. And if not, at least there will be a civil war, isn’t that great? You get to die in a random shootout, isn’t that wonderful? So glad we didn’t vote so this lady didn’t win.
True, but as for the last part -
we didn’t vote
We actually did. The even more depressing reality is the last three presidential elections had the highest turnout of registered voters and young voters in American history.
What’s fucked up is that exit polling showed that most people were entirely tuned-out and saw no difference between the candidates because most people don’t watch the news or politics, most people are uninformed on basic science and reason, most people have curated social media feeds that push attention-span erosion and right-wing propaganda, and a good QUARTER of the adult population of America is functionally illiterate. Meaning studies have shown that 22% or more of adults in the US cannot read more than a couple words strung together or have to piece together sentences contextually. They can work, they can answer text messages, but are incapable of assembling paragraphs and forming complex abstractions.
We’re fucked on a level that is hard to convey.
deep breaths
Oh I’m sorry… What I meant was:
deep breathes
This is what dump wants. He’s already mobilised his incels and provided ample firepower.
And with only one week for people to prepare. Smooth.
that line about revolution only applies when society is used to not being hungry. unfortunately, it’s already common for Americans to skip meals to save some cash. I’m not holding my breath (but would loved to be surprised ofc).
Republicans don’t give a fuck if they kill people by withholding healthcare, obviously they don’t give a fuck if people starve.
At some point the Democrats have got to realize this and start acting accordingly, but Democrats are still bending the knee: 13 Senate Democrats just voted to install a conservative judge in Alabama.
Republicans don’t give a fuck if they kill people by withholding healthcare, obviously they don’t give a fuck if people starve.
Maybe that’s why they love Israel so much?
Just a reminder that no one steals food in America. If you thought you saw someone shoplifting food, no you didn’t! That never happened, you imagined it, turn around and walk away, nothing to report here.
Duh, the U.S. government stopped SNAP payments and Trump will soon say nobody is poor or hungry here. Thus shoplifting is impossible, if you see it or ghosts, you’re literally hallucinating.
Not American, but I totally didn’t see someone shoplifting a couple of weeks ago and I just carried on with my business, but on the way out I heard another customer grassing them out. What is the world coming to?
You know what you hardly ever see - billionaires telling on each other for their crimes for no reason. Solidarity, people!
it’s AI
Everyone on a jury should argue this. “I can’t trust the bodycam footage. Could be Sora. I have reasonable doubt.”
Not an American but if the government shutsdown and they are cancelling programs, shouldn’t you not have to pay taxes for that time period?
It would be like withholding rent from your landlord until they repaired your heating. You’d have to still place the money in escrow to prove to a judge you had the money intended to pay.
Lol
Lmao
Rofl
Most working people have their estimated taxes deducted from their pay before they receive it. They don’t have an option to not pay.
You can fill out a form and send it to your HR/payroll department to adjust your withholdings at anytime, and they are supposed to do so no questions asked.
The employee not paying their income tax does not actually have an adverse impact on the employer, so they don’t care. Of course, the employee still has the legal obligation to pay; but breaking tax law is pretty inherent with tax protest.
Then we have to pay someone $150 to mail it to the IRS.
Well, that one congressional district that has their congress person being kept out should definitely not have to pay because that would be a taxation when they have no representation.
Also, several congresspeople have said that they “don’t represent the Democrats” in their districts. I think that, too, should immediately exempt those residents from taxes.
They don’t have an option to not pay.
Sort of. When you start employment, you fill out a whole bunch of paperwork related to taxes and pay. Most people opt to have standard tax withholdings, but you can opt to get the full paycheck with no withholdings. It just requires you to pay a huge bill at the end of every year out of your bank account.
If you’re smart and time it right, you can take what would be deducted and put it into a 12-month certificate. Then, when the year ends, you take that principle and pay the taxes. You just get to keep the interest.
Most people don’t because taxes and the deductions from the paycheck change so much every year. It can be hard to figure out and a pain to have to refile the paperwork to change the deductions to see what this paycheck’s deduction should be.
i used to do that, claim exempt and just pay at the end of the year. if what you end up paying is over a certain amount, they will get you for penalties and interest.
$1,000 is that number, or at least it was a few years ago. The IRS requires quarterly estimated payments. Although from what I could tell (not a tax expert), it would’ve been fine for me to just pay the whole sum on Dec 31.
If your income does not have withholdings you are required to make payments quarterly. If you owe above a certain amount when filing your tax returns you have to pay a penalty.
You can write exempt on the withholding form to stop your employer from withholding, but the forms are very clear that it is only to be done if you owe no tax. Unless you earn less than $16k or whatever the standard deduction is for you, it would be unwise to not make advanced tax payments.
You can file your forms differently to avoid paying the feds, or delaying those payments, but you do so at personal risk.
But it’s OK: Kristi Noem gets two $170,000,000 private jets, Trump gets a golden ballroom, a luxury airliner and billions of dollars in bribes, Argentina gets $40,000,000,000, and ICE get all the weaponry they desire plus big fat bonuses for hitting their kidnapping targets. So as you sit hungry through the holiday season, know that your tax dollars are at least giving someone a good time.
Let’s instead phrase it that ICE gets more budget for militarization than the entire Israeli military.
Just let that sink in for a bit. ICE and resources allocated than the Israeli military.
It’s the 16th most funded militarized force in the world.
Essentially equal to Canada’s military budget.
Shits fucked
Don’t forget the $250 million that he feels he is owed by the DOJ for being prosecuted, which he intends to instruct the DOJ to settle and pay.
Did somebody say Bell riots? I thought I heard Bell riots.
Star Trek future here we come, huzzah!
Don’t forget we have to do the Eugenics Wars first as well…
Don’t forget the post-atomic horrors that follow.
But maybe I can live just long enough to meet porthos
I’m sure Mark Twain will rescue me from those
As well as World War III killing a double digit percentage of the world population.
Yay the end is near!
That was after they created the Sanctuary Districts in major cities, like San Francisco. We’re still a bit away from that. They’re leaving the homeless to roam.
That was last year. Check your calendar.
The eugenics wars happened in the 90’s. Something shifted the timeline around.
Temporal Cold War
So we’re in the Kelvin timeline? Ugh, well, okay, I guess.
No, that is not the same thing. The Kelvin Timeline exist due to Spock trying to prevent the destruction of Romulus from the nearby sun going supernova. The Temporal Cold War is different factions of the galaxy at war, messing with history.
The Temporal Cold War is from ENT.
That’s only if you accept that it is a time travel split and not another alternate universe where the first captain of the Enterprise was Archer instead of April.
Archer was not the captain of the NCC-1701. They commanded the NX-01, a completely different ship.
Thing is, it’s gonna hit the rural MAGA folks the hardest.
There’s a part of me that wants to go “I told you so…” which is expected…
But the more cunning part of me wants to leverage their hunger, dismay and rage and work to aim it squarely against Trump and the entire MAGA movement.
They’ll whisper “owned the libs” with their keto breath and die of starvation before they admit their orange god is a fraud.
I’m currently getting funding from my mother who is also about to get furloughed for working for the military. So she is losing double what she sowed in the election. You fuck around and your family loses, and your family’s friends lose. I’m currently in the trickle down era!
MAGA will blame the Ds and “libtards”, because that’s what they’ve been told to do.
Most of them will, but we don’t need most of them to tip the scales.
Who isn’t? It’s the “Schumer shutdown” and what did they say on Fox News? Something like “open the government and then discuss”. They eat that shit up.
Who do you imagine is going to blame the republicans? Trump is untouchable because they’ll just invent some story to justify their blind faith.
Hell, I had a family member tell me “you got to read between the lines. Don’t take anything he says literally”
Yup. Chomsky talked about the Angry White Man syndrome and how they were right to be angry, but they were angry at the wrong people.
Faux and other wingnut welfare outfits didn’t run in the red for years on end (maybe some indefinitely) for no reason. All that infrastructure - Faux, Washington Times, hate radio, Regnery publishing, etc…is all there to properly indoctrinate a certain percentage of the population into believing all their problems are a result of anything else BUT Republican and conservative ideology.
use that to build class solidarity.
mocking them will achieve nothing except make you feel better
It doesn’t even do that. People want and hope it’ll do that, but it doesn’t. Not really.
I’d like to have empathy, and publicly I won’t call out these hypocrites, but I honestly can’t care less if these fuckers starve. I feel bad for the children and helpless that are affected, but the others that voted for this are reaping what they sow.
Yep they can have the day they voted for.
Yeah, but “he’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting”.
I try to have compassion for people that have made bad choices in their lives, but fucking hell, it is really hard to sustain that for people that voted to hurt other people. Actively wanting that to happen. Not to really improve their own lot in life, but to hurt others.
Exactly. I don’t enjoy or actively seek the hurting of these individuals, but I can’t keep caring about people that repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot. I can empathize with people that make a mistake. I will go so far as to say that people that voted for Trump in 2016 fucked up, but that they made a forgivable mistake. I can’t do that for anyone that voted for him in 2024. There are no excuses. He was a known commodity that detailed exactly how he was going to rule if elected again. Nothing that he had done since January is a surprise at all. There are plenty of rural residents that are grouped with the majority that voted for Trump that unfortunately are being punished for the actions of their neighbors. I have the most sympathy for those families as they aren’t just most heavily affected, but they are grouped up with those other terrorist supporters. The rest, other than the innocent children, can sleep in the bed they made with empty stomach and crippling debt.
It’s hitting visible minorities the hardest. That’s clear. God forbid you speak Spanish and look “Mexican”… MAGA will come in at second-worst, perhaps, and some of them will be happy about that.
I’m a moderately intimidating-looking white guy and the fear in the eyes of all the little latina moms in the supermarket when they look at me… It’s so tragic. I’m just trying to be as polite and accommodating as possible whenever I can to quell their fears. Feels like the social fabric is just melting around us.
just don’t give in to the “i told you so’s”.
then they’ll only resent you….They already do. A lot of people have cut off contact entirely because of politics.
then they’ll only resent you
Yeah, then. They already do resent us because some propagandists told them to. We are their enemy because we try to improve the lives of all, even those they hate. I hope that hate can satiate their hunger next month, because that’s all they’ll be left with.
*more.
yeah i resent them too, point is showing his base how he betrayed them, not about being right.
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Playing these people experience the consequences of their voting decisions instead of bailing them out is necessary. They get to vote for the nasty racist things they want and they don’t feel the consequences and nothing will change until that changes
