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    Just to be clear: they suspended him for criticizing MAGA for trying to claim that the killer wasn’t one of them. He didn’t say anything about Charlie Kirk. He was censored for speaking truth by his own network. Not only censored, censured and suspended indefinitely.

    We’re 100% there kids. The founding fathers made a point to put something right after freedom of speech, from religion, and of assembly. Right there 2nd in order. Unabridged. Welp the 1st amendment is being abridged as we speak. And I hear that second thing was put in place to protect that first thing. I’ve been hearing it for over 50 years.

    *quick edit in case anyone else wants to try to educate me about the constitution: no, he isn’t protected by the 1st amendment from getting suspended. ABC should be protected but seeing as they’ve already settled for $16 million over threats on their FCC license and brought in new trump-friendly leadership, we can all agree he wasn’t suspended due to ratings drops. Stop pretending things are normal. This is an obvious 1st amendment issue.

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      Hold up - it goes a layer deeper and is actually fairly similar to what happened to Colbert.

      ABC had their hand forced because of a pending merger between Nexstar Media Group and Tenga, which once the FCC approves it, would place Nexstar in ownership of 80% of local TV channels in the US. Nexstar is based in Texas, so it’s not exactly ABC-Disney friendly.

      So they threatened to censor Kimmel themselves on local TV stations unless ABC did it for them. They had on the ground infrastructure power to do this.

      And yes, we’re 100% there. The key point is to understand that while everyone sees ABC as the Big Bad here, it’s the infrastructure companies that have leverage and no one knows their names or how much they actually own.

      Edit: Just saw this - Sinclair’s local ABC affiliates are replacing Kimmel reruns will air their own CK tribute show, just on their own whatever, fuck ABC’s programming.

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      Yep.

      It’s not just “ABC” either, it’s Disney/Hulu.

      I just canceled both services and everyone else should too.

      Fuck em. All they care about is money, so let’s show them that siding with fascism costs a shit ton of money

      If nothing else it will get the CEO who did this fired.

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        Anyone who reads this… Cancel them all and spend a few 100 bucks setting up a Jellyfin server.

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          Ive been using a Synology with DS video for three 3 years, they killed DS video so I turned my gaming PC into a Jellyfin server, best decision ever, and Im using tailscale to host it to a few friends

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          100% - except Jellyfin only works well if you use the desktop/web UI. If you use TV apps, firestick, shield - any app based system, Jellyfin is total garbo, and I’d recommend Plex instead. I wish Jellyfin apps worked better, I’d switch in a heartbeat, but it runs like garbage on my Nvidia Shield.

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          Before streaming really caught on, we didn’t bother with cable TV. I used to spend a considerable amount of time each week downloading all my family’s favorite shows, and burning them onto DVDs to watch at our leisure. No schedules, no commercials, rewind a scene at my convenience, etc. it was well worth the trouble.

          When streaming started, I got caught up in platform creep, like everyone else. I started with Netflix, and the next thing I know, I’ve got a half dozen or more subscriptions. I slowed down on downloading, only grabbing the occasional movie, but now there are so many streaming platforms that subscribing to the necessary ones costs more than cable. So I’m going back to pirating again, starting with any ABC programming. I seldom watch Disney stuff, but something pops up now and then. I watch Hulu pretty often, but I don’t mind downloading Only Murders in the Building instead.

          Amother tip: My current cable plan includes built in TIVO, so I record a lot of shows to watch later. When I do, I can skip the commercials, which is what hurts them more than anything. People think media companies exist to serve entertaining programming, but that’s not true at all, that’s just the illusion they offer viewers. All they really are is advertising platforms. That’s their real business, and their real mission - to get us to watch the advertising that their clients pay for. The entertainment programming is just bait, to get us to sit on our asses in front of the TV, hoping that when the ads come on, we’ll be too lazy to get up and walk away, so they’ll rape our minds with enticing ads for overpriced consumer goods from China. I’m actually surprised they haven’t tried to prohibit TIVO.

          So when you skip the commercials, you are effectively doing the same thing as pirating - removing the way they make money. NOTHING hurts them worse than consuming their expensive bait, without paying for it by either watching the ads, or paying their subscription.

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            This is exactly my story. Once the billionaires started sucking DJTs dick, supporting genocide, doing crazy fascist shit and fucking all of us normies into oblivion in the process, I stopped caring. These companies do insane crime with no repercussions and even benefit from it? From my pov, I’m obliged to pirate.

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              Our economy is at a turning point. The “experiment” of Trickle Down Economics was proven to be a scam many years ago, and yet it still persists as our primary economic system.

              If we don’t make the switch to Trickle UP Economics, we will organically switch to Robin Hood Economics (Take from the rich, give to the poor), and that often comes accompanied by guillotines.

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          I so honestly wish I had time to do that.

          Unfortunately, I just need tv to work and Disney+ is a way to throw money at the problem instead of time.

          The crazy part is, I do have a 20TB Plex server, but there’s a problem with the machine and I just don’t have time to troubleshoot it. So despite already having much of that content, I’m paying to access it.

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              I’m all for it! Show me another direction that works!

              Disney Plus is the only service I know of that actually has an access pin lockout system to keep kids in their kids account. All I want is a way for a 9 year old to watch tv without running into adult content. That turns out to be hard when your particular kid will actively seek out anything you tell them to avoid.

              But honestly, Disney has the largest amount of appropriate content for them anyway. I think I’m stuck with this for now.

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          I’m an old head, everything I watch on Hulu/Disney I have on Plex.

          I was just subscribing because I have disposable income and wanted my dollars to count as eyeballs on media I enjoy.

          But fuck that.

          A significant amount drop in subscribers not only has a real chance to change their mind, it makes every other corp reevaluate whether to fight trump or not.

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            When you cancel it asks for a reason, and “Other” gives freeform text - I let them know that bending the knee on fascism was my line.

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              Yeah same although I’m now concerned about that ending up on my Palantir profile. Isn’t it great that that’s actually a fairly legitimate concern nowadays?

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          Way ahead of you. I dont watch Disney anything but I’m about to fill my disks with Disney crap and seed away.

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            Is someone working on building something like that? I saw the project Storj and the coin, and it seemed like a cool idea for storage, I guess.

            What’d be great is if someone started making something like Nextcloud combined with some clones of things AWS components + Kubernetes and make that peer-to-peer as far as running the compute and getting redundant storage, etc.

            There was a really interesting project about 10 years ago - cannot remember the name of it now. I think it was a prepackaged OS bundled with lots of self-hosting type of solutions out of the box. Still, that was isolated self-hosting.

            ETA: I remember the project now, it’s FreedomBox: https://www.freedombox.org/

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            Try to get an invite to a private tracker. Public ones suck

            IPT invites are easy to get and it’s good enough to get started and build a reputation, which you will need for invites to better trackers

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                Basically you need to go turn tricks and suck up to people for a invite to a club so you can suck up to more exclusive clientele so you can get invites to even more exclusive clubs.

                Said tricks is seeding torrents like a good boy.

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      If you care about democracy and not what some Republican fascist say, right now is the time to buy a gun. The 2nd amendment will be purged next.

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          He is saying arm yourself while it is legal, so you have weapons for when you need them to fight off bad people in designer uniforms… Roughly translated.

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          Look up what the Mulford act is. When the Black Panthers armed themselves and started patrolling their own neighborhoods in Oakland suddenly the Republicans were against carrying a loaded gun in public. The act was signed into law by then California governor Reagan and was even backed by the NRA

          Republicans are pro free speech until they hear speech they don’t like. Republicans are pro 2A until they see people that aren’t them carrying guns.

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      they suspended him for criticizing MAGA for trying to claim that the killer wasn’t one of them

      Regardless of how fascist this is of course, I think the killer isn’t one of them, though? For what I understood, he grew up in a MAGA family, but then got radicalized towards the left somehow, probably online ecochambers or friends. I mean the bullet engravings, if that’s all real, are pretty clear.

      Downvote me if you like, but my question is genuine, if anyone will bother to reply.

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        The bullet engravings, while some of them use left wing slogans, were entirely based on Helldivers 2 and Groyper memes. It’s an intentional bastardization of the left’s terminology utilized by the far right followers of Nick Fuentes.

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          Dude is 22, groyper wars began in 2019 he was 16.

          Just before that I was playing hall monitor on Reddit reporting subs including frenworld, clown world, etc.

          IMHO if he was hanging around people like that he was being radicalized constantly

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            he probably follows nick fuentes constantly, and consumes other right talking heads constantly, by having tiktok, discord, or stream on, in the background of a computer. i know a trumper in my family that has far-right content constantly as a background on thier pc.

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        Radicalized by neonazis, fell for a trans girl, committed the right wing terrorism he was groomed to commit.

        Making your first queer friend doesn’t suddenly make a person a leftist, nor does it make their violence leftist.

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        From what I read he was a groyper and felt that Kirk wasn’t right leaning enough. but the news manipulates the information daily, so, :shrug🤷

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          Didn’t his texts say something to the effect of, “I’ve had enough of his hatred.” That doesn’t sound like something someone who didn’t think CK was far right enough would say.

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            You believe that this regime would release an accurate accounting of the so-called messages?

            I don’t trust a single fucking thing the Nazis are saying.

            Ponder this as well, why are they releasing pre-trial evidence so freely? I thought things under investigation (like the FUCKING EPSTEIN EVIDENCE) were supposed to be sealed up tight during investigations?

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              This is conspiracy thinking.

              The Utah county prosecutors office released those texts, not the Trump administration. You’re suggesting that the president and his goons have infiltrated the local prosecutor to plant fake evidence where the shooter obliquely indicates he’s left leaning when the fuckwits can’t even keep reporters out of their signal chats?

              Releasing non-confidential information to the public is common in high visibility cases like this at this point in the investigation. They haven’t released anything that would compromise witnesses etc. which is what should be kept under seal.

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                Jeff Gray (Republican Party) ran for election to the Utah County Attorney. He was on the ballot in the Republican primary on June 28, 2022.

                He is one of the fascist controlled goons.

                Every single republican is compromised. Active enemies of the republic. If they weren’t, they would denounce America’s Hitler publicly.

                So yea, I don’t trust a single fucking word any single worthless anti-american republican could ever spew.

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                Who knows, but are you assuming that the prosecutors are nonpartisan…? And I’m not an expert on US law, but I thought pre-trial stuff is kept as quiet as possible to not impact the jury selection process and such?

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                  it will be hard to choose a juror, that hasnt heard about Kirk recently, unless your a boomer/retiree or someone very naive that doesnt consume much media, thats how they choose the jurors.

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                  Ideally, but America is one of those stupid places that makes prosecutor an elected office, so they’re always keen to grandstand when the press is biting.

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          There are no confirmations one way or another yet, but all the circumstantial evidence is pointing strongly that he was rooted in right wing ideologue.

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          There is not enough information to confirm one way or the other, but there is a lot information being released. It’s not hard to find with a simple search. For example the court charges document. (Whether the investigation can be trusted is another question though)

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        There’s no clear evidence either way. If you cherry pick certain facts you can paint a compelling narrative of any ideology.

        My take is the dude, like most Americans, doesn’t fit cleanly into right or left politics but was motivated by violent rhetoric targeting queer people. But we’ll see if further information comes to light.

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        Which casing engravings were leftist?

        No, not BULLETS. The bullets are the projectiles, not the enclosing brass

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        This is the chilling effect of Trump (the President) suing networks who report the truth about him, and recent rhetoric by members of Congress and the DoJ about using the force of government to silence a tractors. Self-centering before fascist wanna-tator comes after you doesn’t make it not a first amendment issue.

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        It abso-fucking-lutely does.

        This is the government controlling speech thru threat of trumped up criminal charges and frivolous lawsuits.

        trumps been suing these big corps and they’ve been caving, it worked.

        This time he sicced the FCC on them threatening criminal charges, and it worked again

        There has to be consequences in the form of immediate loss of revenue or this will keep working and trump will keep asking for more.

        Start paying attention cuz it’s getting to the point people won’t believe claims of ignorance for where things are headed.

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          I agree with your point; nothing in the comment I responded to made anything close to or even alluded to your point.

          Just look at their “clarifying” response to my comment.

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            Yeah. Saw that…

            You’ve made it abundantly clear you’re treating this like a debate club and not the fall of our fucking country.

            You know there was someone else who got relatively famous selling his soul doing that…

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        Freedom of the press is literally the first amendment. Television is protected by the first amendment. He was suspended because right wing lunatics didn’t like his free speech. In what world does this NOT have anything to do with the first amendment? Why am I even replying to you? You obviously have no idea what free speech means.