A video recorded last week has ignited outrage online after it captured ICE agents violently arresting two brothers in South Norwalk, Connecticut, in broad daylight without producing a warrant. The men, identified as Ricardo Chavez and his brother, reportedly hold legal status to live and work in the United States.
The footage (credit @alwaysfilmthepolice) shows plainclothes ICE agents forcibly detaining the men in a public area. Witnesses say the agents refused to provide identification or present a warrant when asked, instead resorting to physical force and a taser to subdue the brothers before hauling them away. They also allegedly damaged their vehicle.
Community members who know the Chavez family insist that both men are law-abiding residents with valid documentation. “They work, they pay taxes, and they belong here,” said one South Norwalk resident who witnessed the arrest. “This was nothing short of a kidnapping.”
Dont you guys have the ENTIRE amendment against this shit? Wear a strap, conceal carry and if somebody tries to literally kidnap you, just protect yourself.
I imagine for most, outside of a larger organised effort, the calculus is fairly simple. ICE agents are likely “itching” for someone to reach for a piece, for an excuse to shoot an “illegal”. And it’s not like law enforcement’s going to show up acting all reasonable to a scene with dead ICE agents too. Anyone shooting an ICE agent would get plastered all over FOX not as a defender of individual rights, but as a case in point for the propaganda machine.
Resisting is an almost certain death warrant. Not resisting you maintain ‘hope’ that reasonable minds will win out in the end / that you’ll only be locked up for a short time.
*has ancestors that hauled ass all the way from Europe, beats latin americans because immigrant"
Yep, MAGA is filled with fucking neo-Nazis who want to turn the USA in to 1930’s Germany.
Imagine, I got a 7 day ban on Reddit for saying it would be funny if someone stole an ICE dick’s car and left him standing there with his little mask.
These guys deserve so much worse than being stranded like that. And Reddit is ri-god-damn-diculous.
Start carrying people. Bear up them arms.
Just find like-minded people, dress up like they do, don’t identify yourself and wear a mask, and do whatever you want. It seems to work for them.
Alleged ICE agents. They haven’t identified themselves, can we really say they’re federal agents?
It’ll keep happening until we all show up with baseball bats.
'Muricans should have more than enough guns. Where are they now? Hiding like rats, waiting for the Nazis to fully take over?
Organized federal financed paramilitary units with a hierarchy and a support structure and a multi-billion dollar PR budget are going to outperform random disconnected vigilantes who are too afraid to so much as wave at one another.
This is the same problem the Spanish Anarchists had against Franco. Its the problem German and Italian Communists had against the Fascist/Monarchist alliance. It’s the problem the French Resistance had against the Nazi occupation and the Hamas / Hezbollah resistance has had against the IDF.
Simply owning a firearm isn’t enough. You need a community of like-minded people operating in concert towards a recognized goal. That’s the difference between the Vietcong and Ruby Ridge. That’s what separates successful insurgencies from “lone wolf waterboarded to death in Gitmo blacksite”.
Blue states have encouraged disarming while the red are stockpiling. Wonder who ICE are targeting…
Joining the Nazis.
The ones with guns are mostly just cheering them on from the sidelines
That’s because the majority of them are fascists. What happened to American exceptionalism? It never existed. it’s a nation of soft wanna be humans disguised as capitalists.
Not in Connecticut. That’s the point.
many of us have mental illnesses that would put us or others in danger if we had a gun. trust me, i believe in arming ourselves, especially minorities, but what if one day i have no impulse control and shoot myself? im at a loss.
The vast majority of the gun freaks are on their side.
Authoritarian hell…
Watching this shit happen in America from afar really is a mind fuck. I continue to fail to understand how Trump can still have any support is beyond me. The facism is just so god damn blatant at this point
Racism. The answer is racism. His white supremacist supporters love watching masked secret police beat the shit out of brown people. Then they’ll blame the next closest person when the food stops being produced and the farm food all rots on the vine
I saw a bumper sticker the other day that resonated with me “Stop pretending your racism is patriotism”
It reminded me of something an African American woman said to me during college more than 20 years ago “I always watch out for people that love to fly the American flag because you never know what that really means.”
Well 20 years ago nationalism in the US was at seemingly an all time high. It was hat dressed up as patriotism
And beyond racism it is happening in blue cities.
His supporters are primed to think that cities are dangerous places already, and that a city led by liberals is in shambles, and that all the people living there are lawless liberals that deserve punishment.
They are cheering about this because they see it as sending their troops to go hurt others. Whether those people are other because of their race, their religion, their gender, their sexuality, or their political beliefs.
And when these same people find out that something about them or a loved one makes them other they will act shocked. They will protest that they aren’t an other they are in the in-group.
And then they will learn the true nature of fascism. The in-group is constantly shrinking, because there must always be an other to blame. And they will learn that lesson too late.
Man I want to walk up behind the Nazi in that third pic and kick him in the grundle so hard.
We should bring back tarring and feathering.
This is eventually going to result in a new Black Panther or Guardian Angel group like the 60s/70s.
Will be interesting to see these masked pieces of shit face some actual competition brandishing fucking rifles.
Maybe the citizens with guns need to show up when kidnappings are going down… Might change the new ICE employees minds.
Will probably just escalate even more.
Ironically, the guy who ran the Guardian Angels is now the Republican candidate for NYC Mayor…
The guardian angels are just different pieces of shit
Yup, then martial law and suspended elections. It’s almost like their plans are publicly available.
We’ll hold our own elections, with blackjack and hookers
Las Panteras Negras
How about Las Masqueras Negras. El Bloc Negro.
¿Es ese “black bloc” en español?
I’m surprised at the general lack of references to black bloc in these times.
No se. Traducía palabra por cada uno. Puede ser, como dijiste, nadie está hablando sobre el black block en estos días
Yeah. It’s very surprising considering how relevant black bloc is to the current circumstances. Seems like something protestors need to be aware of an practice for safety and solidarity.
Hey, if ICE is using those tactics, we should, too!
Maybe they’ll use the rifles?
Surely the don’t tread on me people are fuming and about to patrol the streets to keep their communities safe, right?
Don’t Tread on me people are perfectly fine with other people getting tread on.
ICE isn’t going to their communities
"“Better to be judged by 12 than to be kidnapped and dragged to a death camp by as few as 2!”
I’ve only heard the “don’t tread on me” weirdos sing the cell block tango. “they had it coming, they only had themselves to blame.”
Remember in 2019 when Hong Kong protestors called the US for help?
Yeah… about that… 👀
(I saw the image and I immediately thought of Hong Kong)
The day someone actually kills ICE-Nazis is the day i will send financial support to muricans.
I have no idea how not a single ICE agent has been killed yet?
Apparently the good guy with a gun is a myth.Because they are well armed. Attacking them would be a suicide mission and people are not suicidal.
and people are not suicidal.
Citation needed
Most people*
It’s possible they have, and those incidents get suppressed for fear of encouraging imitators - similar to Luigi Mangione.
News sites want you scared, but not angry.
Because they don’t try this shit with people who look like they can hit back, most of those have real arrest warrants on them so they can leave that for local and state cops to deal with and just focus on ambushing students and day laborers and people with small children
Same comment:
I have no idea how not a single ICE agent has been killed yet?
Apparently the good guy with a gun is a myth.I am low key shocked that some group of vigilantes hasn’t straight up ambushed a pack of ICEheads yet.
Benjamin Song, an alleged ringleader, is a former Marine Corps reservist who trained left-wing activists for close-quarters combat and large-scale gunfights, associates said.
Damn… I hope there are more people like this, and that there’s a good reason why we never hear about them.
Link to get around paywall.
That didn’t work for me. Still cuts off after one paragraph.
Here’s an article I found from a local affiliate: https://www.fox4news.com/news/texas-ice-detention-center-attack-alvarado
Apparently the good guy with a gun is a myth.
It always has been.
Sadly, I don’t think that will happen on any scale as long at the main targets are brown.
And undocumented, which makes it not feasible to own a gun if they wanted to.
That’s a poor strategy and most people understand that on some level. Either because of the civil rights movement and understanding the value of the moral high ground or because people understand they want violence to declare martial law. That just isn’t the play.
Also Luigi isn’t a myth.
I won’t comment on whether political violence is the right thing to do, but if you think the civil rights movement was peaceful you’ve been taught some disgustingly whitewashed history. Ever heard of the Black Panthers? They got in firefights with the police all the time, even though many would later pretend that MLK was the only and unanimous voice for all of America’s oppressed.
Also the whole Civil Rights movement can be traced to the Civil War, instigated in part by people like John Brown whose whole thing was massacring slavers in the name of God.
This rewriting of history of America as a nation of peaceful citizens who got their Rights by Asking Nicely fucking pisses me off.
MLK was the only and unanimous voice for all of America’s oppressed.
And MLK himself is extremely whitewashed. His focus on economic justice and anti-imperialism are typically left out of the stories told about him in media. As well as the fact that he was broadly unpopular with Americans in his time.
Also the fact that he credited the Black Panthers with allowing him to be able to do what he was doing by protecting the protesters from retribution, and saying that the only reason that they weren’t doing anything more was because what they were doing already was illegal and anything more would risk actual jail time.
There’s also the armed nonviolent wing that gets left out, like the Deacons and the various unaffiliated armed people who literally did have to be ready to kill in order to defend some of the nonviolent protestors - one SNCC person in an interview mentioned they and a few friends were staying at an old black woman’s home after a march in Alabama, and she had half of the local black community entrenched, quite literally, with their guns in her front yard all night, because the police had shown up with what amounted to a lynch mob for the protestors.
I also think a lot of people confuse moral nonviolence with strategic nonviolence or pacifism. You can be nonviolent and still be absolutely armed, trained, and ready to do violence if needed.
There’s a fantastic book, This Nonviolent Stuff Will Get You Killed, that really hits the lost portions of the civil rights movement, including the armed wing of the movement.
The reason for gun control was Regan was afraid of the balck panthers owning guns.
Full stop
Thank you boondocks for showing me Malcolm X. Yeah I know but this game is a bit different. Gotta be smarter this go around, money, it’s all money. Your color never really mattered it was just convenient.
If it’s all money… How do you propose the fascists will go away? Good words and peaceful protests don’t mean shit when the oligarchs own the quasi-totality of the media landscape.
As a totally unrelated thought, Luigi’s alleged cheap 3D printer did more for access to healthcare in the US than every government from the past decade-and-a-half and that’s a straight fact.
Pay half the fascist to deal with the other half! Lucky for us all they’re selfish whores to their very core.
I tell you what the real myth is. Thinking they need violence to declare martial law. They clearly don’t. So that’s an argument people need to stop making.
Real martial law. And they need footage for the news they just are not getting right now. Not to say the current state of things is sustainable.
