• jsomae@lemmy.ml
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    9 hours ago

    There is a straight pride movement. Wasn’t there a heterosexual pride parade in Texas last month or something?

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      “Straight Pride” just means hating LGBTQ people. The name is taken from Gay Pride, but the purpose is entirely different.

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        9 hours ago

        Yeah, definitely true for the Texas parade. I know somebody who is ashamed of being straight though, so there probably could exist an earnest straight pride community. What there is definitely not a need for is a straight lib movement.

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          9 hours ago

          Ashamed of being straight? I can understand finding it boring since it’s the most common sexuality, but why be ashamed of it?

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    I went to my first gay pride parade in 1992. It was a fucking revolutionary act. It also radiated a kind of wonder and joy that is hard to describe now. It was like lifting a veil on the world and finding a whole and better new world just sitting there underneath. It was fairly intoxicating. Maybe I’m just remembering being 18 :D

    A lot has changed since then and gay people don’t live with the threat of extinction the same way anymore. But we’re far from past the need for this event. A lot of miles still have to be travelled. And even in the far future, coming out will still be a revolutionary event for the kid doing it and having a Pride event to attend will matter every bit as much to them.

    So no, it’s not something we’ll ever not need. Gosh wouldn’t it be something if we could ever not need this…

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    Whenever someone asks “well why isn’t there a STRAIGHT pride?” or “what about X lives, don’t they matter?”

    Rather than explaining that you can celebrate one thing without pushing another out, I’ve decided to use the tools people like this keep saying I need: the Bible.

    Luke 15:4-6 4 Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? 5 And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders 6 and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’

    Nowhere does it say “Jesus said the shepherd should abandon that one because ALL sheep matter, and there will be NO celebration of the thing that was lost and has been regained.”

    Of course, I’ve been accused of being “a satanic supporter of the antichrist” because I “cherry pick verses that say things I like” Without a hint of irony.

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    Just don’t go to homophobic countries. If they won’t accept you for who you are, they can do without your cash. Plenty of safe places to visit that are really nice for a holiday.

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    The name is still silly. If it’s not about pride… then don’t name it pride? Why thay specifically? It’s not even positive. Does anyone enjoy the company of proud people? For me they’re insufferable.

    I know it"s too late to change the name, but… maybe…?

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    9 hours ago

    Persecution and litigation against gay people is basically thought crime, isn’t it? Why is this still something we have to defend against?

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    Said it before, I’ll probably say it again: this is why we should never have changed the name from Gay Liberation. A movement based around human rights and liberation from oppression shouldn’t have changed its name from Liberation to Pride. Now we spend a solid 30% of our energy just explaining what pride is and why it should exist, and fending off the constant “why is there no X pride” bullshit. Call it liberation ans it’s very clear what it is, what it’s for, and why there isn’t a straight liberation movement-- it may even cause a few people to genuinely consider if they, the straights, need liberation, too, from the oppression of heteronormativity… Though that’s asking a lot of your average hetero

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      You can probably dial that 30% down. Even if you’re really that inundated with questions and complaints about this, you can choose not to engage as much. It isn’t a good return on your investment of time, and I hate the thought of you truly paying a 30% tax on this.

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      I agree with your point, but I feel like BLM has proven that you can make the wording simple enough for a child to understand and the “but it doesn’t include me, a straight cisgender white person!” crowd still willfully misinterpret it.

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        Didn’t “Black Lives Matter” originally begin as “Black Lives Matter Too”? I feel like that’s simple enough and if we used it today, then at least some of the dumbasses would shut up about all the “White/Blue/All Lives Matter” BS.

        I think the best way is to somehow keep it as simple as possible but also make it so glaringly obvious that to say that you’re opposed just comes off as outright stupid/evil. Though unfortunately I’m afraid that won’t stop most people today.

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        Honestly, you are depressingly correct :( but even so, misinterpretation, wilful or not, is only part of the reason I wish we’d go back to Liberation instead of Pride. I know the name doesn’t have to dictate the goals, but I feel like we lost sight of the movement when we made marriage equality the end-all-be-all, and there’s been such an abandonment of it since 2015. We’re not there for our trans and nonbinary siblings anyway, because gay men “got ours,” so to speak. A lot has improved in the last 60 years, but I wish the queer community still had the community part of things like we used to