Canada and Mexico should make a mutual defense pact. Being pinched by land wars would make things much rougher for the US.
Truth. We’d have a war on two fronts without ever leaving home.
As a Canadian sure, but even together we’d be fucked. Europe is our main hope.
Europe, and if you get Australia and New Zealand involved, you win for sure.
They’re definitely invited to my imaginary post-NATO alliance, but I’m curious, why do you bring it up?
The Pacific. Europe isn’t much help there.
Also, New Zealand special forces are very highly regarded.
I wouldn’t run it past Trump; the guy is mentally unstable and a psychopath.
… and the American people are feckless sheep
PS: although I must recognize that, since the murder of Renee Good, it does seem that some are waking up
I am impressed at the amount of downvotes. The US had crossed several thresholds now which would’ve (and should’ve) caused Civil wars a while ago or in other countries.
Downvoting the post above confirms it has not yet been understood where the US now stands.
And so are Canadians… yikes
It’s inevitable. No one should trust the U.S. right now, and countries should be attempting to strengthen relations with each other to deal with the fallout that is bound to occur.
We are already seeing the Axis form, time to make the new Allies kids!
Until about a year ago I would have said that therea no way our people in the military would cooperate. Now with seeing ice do all this heinous shit, yeah our military might actually do it
Countries seem woefully unpreprared for the fallout when the US collapses even more than it already has.
It will depend on the world’s reaction when he goes for Greenland in a couple of weeks. Most probably nothing will happen so, unless americans sheeps starts a civil war (lol), he will try something on Canada for sure (he already said there’s an energy / electricity crisis, that why I suspect he’ll go for Quebec first). Most Canadians will probably bend over if they’re offered one year of free Amazon delivery and 50% off Netflix. Ford and Smith will collaborate in exchange for being named governors.
Canada is running a pretty strong boycott of US products right now. For example of the Canadians planning a trip to the US in 2025 56% of them cancelled it or went to another destination, which is not the US. Seriously airlines are replanning their flights, due to the massive drop in demand. Something similar is happening with US products and services, but some are hard to replace. However Netflix and Amazon are not.
Can, like, Canada and Denmark invade us instead? I wouldn’t have to convince my wife to move out of this shithole
We’re waiting until the USA economy collapses under Trump’s incompetence and the military refuses orders because they’re not being paid. Then we leisurely walk in.
Unfortunately the fix has to come from inside your own borders. You all have sacrificed way too much funding your military
I always love the duality of comments on this topic. America’s military is a Schrodinger’s Military at this point, both terrifying and completely non-existent basically depending on what time of day the conversation happens at.
Canadians can’t help because the military is so powerful (completely obvious and understandable) but also, like somebody up above said, “Americans are feckless sheep” for not shooting up the White House yet.
Everybody’s a hero until it’s their life on the line.
Militaries are only as strong as the country’s will to continue to fight. The US had great social upheaval for a relatively low casualty war in Vietnam (<60k dead in 8 yr). Compare the casualty rates from Vietnam with what Russia is experiencing in Ukraine (180-480k deaths in 3 yr).
I remember listening to Dan Carlin talk about how wars are typically won by the side that doesn’t know when to give up. Early Rome was this way. 1941 USSR was this way. 2026 USA is NOT going to win a drawn out, existential war. We would kill a lot of people, sure, thanks to all the weapons and guns but we don’t think we have what it takes to win a major power war anymore.
We would bring scary things like free wealthfare with us. And all americans were to accept it. Nonnegotiable. Almost a dictatorship like move.
You MANIACS! YOU
BLEW IT UPMADE US HEALTHIER!But again, that would probably fuck up the business case for Wegovy and other Novo Nordics products and subsequently Denmark’s economy. Might be a bad idea. We shouldn’t forget about the billionaires and their wealth.
Nearly two thirds of Canadians aren’t paying attention.
There are a lot of brain dead Albertans right now who are lining up to be completely obliterated by the US. They all think they’re going to become wealthy Americans, but the US just wants their resources…not them.
They really need to do some homework on the CNMI, because that’s their future as “Americans”.
They think, because they’re white, this won’t happen…but it was never a race war, it’s always been a class war.
And these people have no class.
Britain and France should work together to give a fully equipped nuclear sub to Canada. My country is turning to shit and everyone needs to build nukes to protect themselves from it.
My dude-after the very first threats Trudeau (who was still PM then) went immediately and directly to France to borrow some subs no doubt. France is now sending troops to Greenland. Shit is serious.
Honestly just the nukes on loan would be enough. There’s zero standoff and light defences accross the border. We could supply the uranium or plutonium to make replacements, even.
Failing that, I really hope Carney is eyeing a redundant treaty in case NATO dies.
I hope so too, but as far as I can tell Canada is being run by the second coming of Neville Chamberlain
Just threaten to send Canadian nuclear reactors into meltdown Chernobyl style. Mutually assured destruction the messy way.
With this fucker in power nukes wouldn’t help. He’ll just gaslight his cult into thinking his farts protect them from radiation and they start nuking other countries themselves
I hope our military is prepared to do something about it
Canadian military is a fraction of the size of the US military.
If invaded, prospects are bleak for Canada. The US has a better chance of invading Canada than they do invading Detroit.
Canadian citizens should arm up but I don’t think their laws allow for it.
I don’t think you’ve thought very deeply or very seriously about this.
I haven’t. There’s absolutely no need to “think deeply” about the strongest military in the world going up vs a nation that’s not in the conversation.
You’re a moron.
And you’re in 4th grade? Who the fuck immediately resorts to name calling instead of attempting to actually make a point. Loser.
I don’t have serious discussions with anyone who sincerely believes in American exceptionalism, just like I don’t have serious discussions with fascists. I am particularly disinclined to have any discussions with an American fascist who clearly has no respect for my country or the former alliance we had with the US. My country has literally bled for you ungrateful pricks, among many other contributions over decades, and I can’t think of a single thing you’ve done but bully us.
Discussing with your camp is never in good faith. You don’t believe in words, and there is no evidence or argument that is acceptable. It’s a waste of time to bother. Thankfully I believe you’re not representative of good Americans, who seem to have had enough of this bullshit.
By the way you should know your insults mean nothing to me. I’ve been called worse things by better people than you (I’m sure that’s a low bar to clear), and I’ve seen who you look up to. Get back on your knees for your orange daddy, maybe this time he’ll finish in your mouth.
It’s not American exceptionalism. It’s math.
They can’t control their southern border from people wandering in, I dunno if they can handle the largest border on earth, whether they try or not
Yeah. Let’s say this extremely unlikely thing does happen. There’s some kind of false flag attack, like a person wearing a Canadian flag does a suicide bomber attack on the US congress or something. An event that riles up Americans enough that there’s enough support for an invasion of Canada that Trump could get away with it.
Now imagine the result of invading a country where almost none of the locals want you there, and all of the locals can pass for Americans. European countries might be too cowardly to actually send their armies against the US for doing that. But, they would almost certainly find a way to fund and train Canadian freedom fighters. The Canadian / American border is completely indefensible. It’s simply too big to ever be properly guarded.
So, you’d have Canadians slipping into the US easily, they’d be trained and armed by Europeans, Australians, Japanese, Koreans, and all the other former US allies. And, once in the states they’d have no problem finding support networks to help them attack American targets.
Just because Trump would be insane to try this doesn’t mean he wouldn’t do it. With their massive propaganda networks in place, they might get a fair number of Americans to support it, at least at first. But, the most they could ever hope for is a Pyrrhic victory.
That’s how I see it too, I’m not going to assume they won’t try, but I’m not so sure of the success if it goes that way
Unfortunately, even if they didn’t succeed, it would be horrible for everybody involved, especially the invaded country. Trump is definitely the type who would wipe Winnipeg off the map if some Winnipegger killed someone important.
Oh, of that I have no doubt of either
Only a third? “Believe may” is a very low bar. It’s like people who have “considered leaving” their job on the past year, because if you ever had a passing thought like “it might be nice to work there” you fall into that category.
What I’m saying is that this poll is useless and the article is a non-story.
You’re wrong saying that it’s a non-story. If you’d asked the question ten years ago, it wouldn’t be a third. The news is that this possibility has been born. That’s big news.
The movie Meet The Robinsons came out in 2007 and takes place in 2037. In that movie, Canada is called North Montana. I remember telling my sister about it and her saying that was ridiculous because there was basically zero chance Canada and the US would go to war within 30 years. It was seemingly completely unfeasible. Now it seems like a real possibility
Also I really do not see the US invading canada. It’s too large, it’s like invading russia.
Its large but the Canadians are mostly concentrated in pockets near the border.
90% south of the northernmost part of the continental united states, international falls, minnesota.
Wouldn’t NATO defend against the US invading Canada so US would have to fight against themselves.
Cute of you to think the US still respects any laws.
The USA is becoming an enemy of NATO and would sooner attack its traditional allies than defend them. And it’s looking like the rest of NATO may just chicken out if the USA attacks a NATO member state. We really need a new defensive pact between Europe and other countries in the Americas, particularly Mexico and Canada, independent of the USA. But the USA is aggressive and militarily stronger, so it’s a bad situation.
It was a pact made with the devil from the start. This is what happens when the USA gets constantly sucked up to because they are the “powerhouse” of the world. The problems where already obvious due to the flawed way everything is centralized towards this country.
As the point stands, the leaders of other countries are to scared to stand their ground against fascist trump. Of course this may change, but the thing is; signs of inadequacy where there from early on, it’s just that only a select few really seemed to care about it.
Okay, here’s what’s actually happening since nobody seems to get the picture.
The Arctic has been melting in recent years, opening up areas that were never accessible before for resource extraction (oil, minerals). This is also why nobody is doing shit about global warming, because the opportunity for profit is too huge.
Canada has claimed ownership over the Arctic and its resources. Greenland/Denmark has claimed ownership as well. America has claimed these areas are in international waters and not ownable by anybody, so it’s a free for all. But they know that’s a weak position.
If USA takes Greenland, they take the Arctic. That’s it, that’s all.
Bonus: it’s a distraction from Trump’s name being all over the Epstein files. Although I’m not sure why he cares so much; his supporters certainly don’t. Like he said, he could rape a child in the middle of 5th avenue and he wouldn’t lose any votes.
He also wants Greenland so he can cut off Europe’s access to Canada
… The arctic is huge, like continent-sized. If they take Greenland, they’ve taken Greenland.
This is also why nobody is doing shit about global warming, because the opportunity for profit is too huge.
That’s also not quite so spooky. Ask the average Joe how much of his salary and lifestyle he’s willing to give up to prevent it. The answer is almost nothing. We haven’t, because we don’t wanna.
Average Joe is in debt and can barely afford rent and groceries and insurance and medical bills, and car payments and you get the idea.
There’s not much left to sacrifice.
Well, for one thing, a car is a luxury in most of the world. Ask how people feel about riding on busses. Sometimes the answer is that they can’t for some reason, but usually it’s just that they prefer a private vehicle and no timetables.
For another, a good potion of the population isn’t actually struggling, and has Amazon or Temu stopping by to deliver dumb stuff from China all the time. Like, that entire sector, along with meal delivery, is all about spending surplus income. I’m not talking about the bottom quarter here.
In the US, a car is a necessity not a luxury. Public transportation barely exists in some cities. Bike/scooter transportation is a death sentence.
Speaking as someone who’s living car free and has been hit 6 times in the past 4 years, ask me how I know.
Yeah, Canada is the same.
Sounds like Canadians are living in denial. If Trump thinks he can get away with it (and he’s got a huge ego) he’ll absolutely try.
