What’s the difference between a civil war and a revolution to overthrow the rich?
Given that I get the sense more and more people are turning against Trump’s republicans, this seem like a desperate attempt to divide us. “look look, they are your enemy, fight them”
So I guess that means he won’t mind if he gets shot at the? Since he’s now a soldier in a war, after all…
What’s the difference between a civil war and a revolution to overthrow the rich?
A civil war profit the elite and rich while a revolution get rid of them
Careful what you wish for, Klan boy.
I think we already have an cold war, considering the activities of ICE and how the Trump Regime is doing everything possible to destroy institutions. Sooner or later, things will turn hot.
It is with that belief, that I have already chosen to join the Blue States Military, in whatever capacity they think is useful. Odds are that I would just be a generic infantryman, as that would free up the smart and capable people for the stuff that needs skilled labor.
Yeah yeah, okay. I’ve heard the civil war shit about as much times I’ve heard “WE ARE STARTING A REVOLUTION!”.
Both haven’t started in any earnest and honest fashion because both sides are too comfortable in their armchairs. It’s just internet shit-flinging for the most of it.
It’s hard to tell what we’re closer to: civil war or the rapture. They’re always on about one or the other. And it’s always the same weirdos spouting it.
It’s pretty easy when one of those options is made-up, shitty fanfiction.
Worse.
It’s shitty fanfiction that has become cannon.
The cons have all the power at the moment. If anything, they are going to ratchet up violence on normal Americans via things like ICE.
“I will submit to you that the Second US Civil War has already started. They’re just using surrogates,” the Republican lawmaker said. The Indiana state senator added, “I submit to you that that’s accurate.”
Guy sure likes to submit to whoever’s listening.
Oh, he’ll submit, alright…
These assholes are always looking for violence.
These chucklefucks have been screeching about civil war since Obama was elected.
And these jabronis will be the first to fold like cheap lawn chairs when they figure out that when a civil war starts in earnest, it very quickly strips them of all the comforts they feel accustomed and entitled to.
And these jabronis will be the first to fold like cheap lawn chairs when they figure out that when a civil war starts in earnest, it very quickly strips them of all the comforts they feel accustomed and entitled to.
Could not agree more with this. I know a few RW preppers in my life and I always ask them to walk me through the scenarios they play out in their head. Most of them still think they are going to be fighting against a rogue government. Of course, this rogue government is assumed to be “Communist” because, well, reasons, LOL. This, even as they can obviously see what the cons are doing right now.
All of them are utterly delusional about how it would play out at least in my view. I always ask them about their plans for becoming a farmer. They talk about how they have enough guns and ammo, and some number of months/years of food. And enough fuel to heat your house for that time, as well as medicine to sustain whatever health conditions you have or may arise.
Okay, let’s say you actually have a full X years worth of food for everyone in your family. And you fight off all threats for X years. Now what? You know nothing about how to grow crops and have no seeds. Probably no real land to grow it on. The U.S. has collapsed and unless you take up raiding others’ food supplies (probably also diminished or completely run out, so not all that viable, never mind the moral compass being broken) you are doing…what?
I think these people have watched too many zombie movies or things like Red Dawn or whatever and think they are just going to sit somewhere on their front lawn with their AR-15, taking out “bad guys” wearing clearly delineated uniforms to designate them as a “Communist” or from “Big Government”, and if they think about something like food, they just assume they’ll be munching on MREs or whatever. Life doesn’t work like a first person shooter game…FFS.
These chucklefucks have been screeching about civil war since LONG before Obama was elected.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat
I feel like the whiskey rebellion is a bit of an unfair one to include. Mostly because rebelling over taxes was rather common historically, and now that I’m considering its a tad weird we haven’t had more tax rebellions here in the US.
When George f****ing Washington , inaugural president of the United States, leads troops into battle to assert the rule of law and congress’s ability to impose taxes it kind of sets a precedent.
America’s had a bunch of tax rebellions, though . It’s just that being a functioning democracy let us do it without anyone dying. (Save for two very notable exceptions.)
Came here to say this - the conservatives have always been among us…and they have NEVER been happy about having a free country.
I’m pretty sure a lot of people are going to starve when the just in time supply chain shuts down.
Oh noes!! i didnt get my way!! Cry, cry, cry.
And yet, if someone were to shoot him as an enemy combatant, they’d be prosecuted for murder. Curious.
MAGA traitor says what?
It’s a civil war to them since they think they are party of the same club as the rich, and the other half is just racist which again is also a civil war for them.
Loser mentality is all maga and Republicans have.
Ya know? If we had a way to have clear distinct war lines, I’d absolutely join a civil war. You’re telling me these guys want to challenge us to a fight till the death? Ok.
The way I see it, either I’m fighting for a better tomorrow, or I’m dead and don’t need to suffer through maga’s amerikkka.
I’m good with either result.
War is a romantic notion until it arrives.
I’m sure it is documented, but I’m just thinking now if families during the civil war were as divided over politics as people are today.
My Dad loves Trump, I am on the other side. I would not fight in a war, as I would not fight against my family even though we do not agree politically.
Ken Burn’s “The Civil War”, goes over that. Clocks in at about 10 hours, and a fair bit of it is about families, letters, the political heat that lead up to the splintering, and so forth.
I’ll fight against your idiot dad
Your dad is a stupid fucking piece of shit.
Yes. That was a huge part of the civil war. There are volumes written from first hand perspective about families being torn apart over the war. Families meeting on the battle field, on opposite ends.
That absolutely happened back then.
Not so many books were written at the time about the families torn apart by slavery. But oh, if a family of us white people feels bad about something, that warrants a book.
What we need right now is not a war, but a million John Browns.
Yep. Families were absolutely split in half with brothers fighting each other in some cases. The Civil War wasn’t civil at all.
That’s always the problem with civil wars.
Tl;Dr:
Then the sniper turned over the dead body and looked into his brother’s face.
How would a civil war be fought in the US in 2025? Where would the battle lines be drawn? It seems like if any skirmishes were to break out anywhere, the police and the military would come in and reestablish order very quickly. Maybe if there was fighting within the military itself, but then whichever side controlled the most strategically important military bases would win quickly and easily. I just don’t see it happening.
I could see some kind of guerilla action, however. I could see assassinations, shootings and bombings, kind of like what happened in Northern Ireland in the 90s. Maybe cyber attacks as well.
The 30 years or so before the Civil War kicked off was a time of outbreaks of street fighting, insurgencies, guerrilla actions, and general instability. The uniformed, shooting war didn’t just materlialize out of nothing.
And as for the military, they can kill huge numbers of people, but that doesn’t mean they can control an unwilling civilian population. Hell, they couldn’t even control a few miliion starving-ass Afghans.
Over three hundred million Americans, 200 million of whom hate your guts? Endless insurgency.
That type of diffuse, guerilla warfare is how modern civil wars generally go.
The first several episodes of It Could Happen Here are revealing on this.
The first several episodes of It Could Happen Here are revealing on this.
The podcast?
Yes
