I hope she sues the fuck out of them.
Since when do we have to show our papers to the secret police?
If you are white, around 11 months. If you’re not white… Well, haha… Funny thing that… Umm, let me uhh, ya…
I really hope there’s an american nuremberg, and i hope they claim they were just following orders, because as with the original nazis, that’s been proven to not be a valid excuse. I hope these cunts go to prison for the rest of their lives.
Ahh. But that was for Germans. Just following orders is a valid excuse for Americans, as the war crimes trials during the vietnam spanking made clear.
Jail. For all these ICE assholes and everyone above them.
All ICE agents should be treated with nothing but disdain and ridicule for the rest of their lives. We need a running list of their identities so they can be ostracized. Monuments should be built at Arlington so they can join Robert E. Lee in their shame. Make it a public urinal, right at the entrance.
They should all be hunted down
I think there’s a website/database for this already
This is getting weirder. Did they realize they were being shitty on camera?:
“I’m a U.S. citizen, please help me,” she shouted after agents forced her to the ground. “This is unfair. Why are you doing this to me?”
Agents then placed her in a patrol vehicle. She was released a short time later.
“She refused to cooperate and identify herself with all levels of law enforcement there,” said agency spokesman Alan Regalado, noting Monroe County Sheriff’s Office deputies were there. A Herald reporter saw deputies moving drivers along who were slowing down to watch the stop.
After agents removed the woman from her car, they found her driver’s license in the vehicle, ran it through their system and confirmed she is a U.S. citizen, Regalado said.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article313356223.html
Edit: So basically, she wouldn’t show them her gold star. WTF country are we fucking living in.
A racist one
Edit: no lie, my phone autocorrected Fascist to racist (I probably fucked the spelling). Accurate both ways
And fascist don’t forget that part!
It’s quite sad to watch the decline of America.
“decline” 🙄
Why would they bother with the license if the ICE facial app scan said she was an immigrant? I thought it was absolute and infallible…
Too many eyes
Uhg. FTA:
“She is visible white and 👱 blond, a medical worker, speaks with no accent. This should be a warning sign for MAGAt as they could be preyed by ICE at any time!”
None of that is a reason to believe she’s not an undocumented immigrant. And being brown, curly-haired, not-a-medical-worker is not any reason to believe they’re an undocumented immigrant.
Is this objectionable behavior by ICE? absolutely. But not because of who the victim is. but because there IS a victim. everyone in this country is protected by the constitution, and afforded the rights of due process- which ICE is flagrantly violating the shit out of.
Can we please stop with the special classes of people like this?
It is important because of the reason they cite.
By going after this woman, they’re making it clear to MAGA folk that allowing the rights of minorities to be eroded also removes their own protection. Even racist assholes should be appalled at the civil rights violations being committed.
They’ll just say “some innocents will be inconvenienced.” Remember they don’t understand until they are hurt personally.
Maga folks have been brainless since 2015
They were also brainless as Tea Party folks since 2008.
Maga is just another way of saying conservative and they have been brainless way longer than that.
And in making that argument, it signals to the racist assholes that the problem being that she’s white, blonde and professional, and therefore the rest are fair game.
which as you say, erodes everyone’s rights. But that’s not particularly important to me. the rights of all are worth protecting even if that weren’t true.
I think it is about opening the eyes of the racist ICE supporters that in fact they are not safe from what they have initiated. Even if they cannot make the jump to being decent human beings caring about all people, they usually care about what happens to themselves.
Yeah and as much as we all hate having to interact with these absolute chuds, the most successful ways of deprogramming people have been through empathetic outreach.
If these MAGA chuds experience the boot of fascism first hand, that might open them up to listening to people from other groups that have had to deal with this kind of treatment for much longer.
It’s a slow process, a metric fuck ton of emotional labour, and not everyone is willing to do that work, which is understandable given that you’ll be competing against the whole outrage media and “attention economy”.
But if enough of us are willing then through genuine human connection, which everyone but a very minute actual clinically psychopathic portion of the population is so desperate for, can get these chuds to open their eyes and grow a little more empathetic.
It makes a point of slapping people who truly believe, even now, that all the ICE activity thus far has been against illegals.
Illegal only. For real. They believe that.
A maga relative in landscaping was mystified as to why half his employees had either left or were leaving and weren’t coming back for the next season. In his words: they’re believing all the lies and hype being spewed by the media.
In his mind, even now, ICE is only doing their job: removing people here illegally. Because media can’t be believed and is filled not with lies but terrible twisting of the truth.
So putting a face on this, that looks like MAGA, is about all that’s left to try to get their attention.
And has your family started the “well she should have just complied” victim blaming?
Then on with the, “They let her go almost right away.”
“Papers please.”
Yes, yes, yes! But also, it’s particularly notable that she’s white and blond with no accent because they claim to their supporters to be protecting those specific people from “illegals.” Pointing out that they’re not only doing something awful but also defying their own stated principles is always a good thing to do.
Whoever wrote that doesn’t realize Canadians can also be immigrants.
No, they are appealing to MAGA folks that are picturing getting rid of all the dark skinned people they don’t like.
The people that consider that nuance have already been against the ICE crap, you don’t have to convince those. The only people that can be convinced are those that you need to get their racism aside before they’ll join you. It’s distasteful, but it’s a way to grow the voices condemning this behavior.
They’re Pointing out to the racists that they shouldn’t be cheering this on, because not even they are safe from this fascist shit. Because you know maga assumes they’re safe because of how they look and talk.
We all know what that’s code for. I have never been to the US in my life, and yet as a white European I’d be accosted much less than tens of millions of US citizens.
Pretending special classes of people don’t exist is just stupidity.
They definitely do exist.
and they exist, in large part, because articles like this normalize it.
congratulations in defending part of the problem.
Hard disagree, those types of stereotypes are established in youth long before the kids start reading articles.
they exist, in large part, because articles like this normalize it
This complaint is missing the forest for trees.
Special classes of people have existed for as long as civilization has exited. Leaders and followers, kings and peasants, the wealthy and the poor, etc. As animals, it’s in the nature of some of us to desire a greater share of resources and luxury at the cost of depriving others from having the same.
An article repeating the notion of people with specific skin tones are part of a privileged class isn’t the problem, it’s just a symptom of the problem. The problem is the bigots who put that into practice, singling out and causing problems for people with specific tones while providing benefits to those with other specific tones. Getting rid of public acknowledgement about class disparity isn’t going to get rid of class disparity, it’s just going to get rid of discussion about class disparity. The racists will still be there, being racist.
Getting rid of public acknowledgement about class disparity isn’t going to get rid of class disparity,
that article isn’t recognizing class disparity, though. it’s perpetuating and normalizing it. and yes, the people that are bigots are absolutely also part of the problem. the media is complicit in that, though, including that article.
Only a truly sick society would allow this
It’s been sick for as long as I’ve been alive… Americans often just don’t know it.
A society steeped in misinformation and propaganda ultimately embraces fascism
Sick from poison, no doubt, but sick nonetheless. I hope there’s a cure that opens their eyes some day, but it won’t come from a TV screen.
The cure to misinformation and propaganda is critical thinking and the scientific method
We have the tools. We need the talent.
It really isn’t, fascists love using “science” and “rationality” to “prove” their ideologies. You can argue that they’re not doing real science, but their followers will believe it.
The cure to fascism is anarchism. That is the only effective way to prevent it.
Exercise doesn’t cure poison. Using individual tools like critical thinking can help you avoid internalizing the misinformation and propaganda, but it sure doesn’t inoculate you from it. We need to cut it out at its source and find ways to ensure it doesn’t get replatformed. Otherwise the toxin is there, just waiting for a day when you’re not on alert, slowly poisoning your mind.
There are always going to be people whose honest assessment is just wrong, or very probably wrong. Or its one of those black swan moments and the crazy person is right.
There’s no getting rid of uncertainty. Science helps us quantify that and work with it.
Last time this happened, the country affected needed electro shock therapy to help them snap out of their delusions.
It’s been allowed under the laws for a long time, it’s just like everything else been a polite agreement not to do things like that. The constitution isn’t really suited for actors in bad faith in all parts of the government.
But it’s not, simply put if you are not committing a crime you are not required to ID.
Border control is allowed to ask you if you are a US citizen and they have expanded authority at established checkpoints. ICE can only ask you are a citizen. They can request ID, but you have the right to refuse.
Now if they can give probable cause that you are breaking a law then you can be detained and compelled to ID. The current legal standing is that race cannot be used to establish probable cause. Now of course the Supreme Court can over turn that anytime.
But all of this to say this has been the law for decades. ICE and local police departments struggle to understand that you do not have to ID when asked except under specific circumstances. Several departments have escalated to arrests that ultimately get thrown out. You can do a search online and find dozens of examples of cities having to pay a lot of money in settlements over false arrests.
But if you are driving a vehicle you are obliged to produce a driver’s license in every state. You can’t be pulled over just to have your license checked though, there has to be other cause for the stop.
Know your rights and fight for them before they are taken
obvious fedpost, but we need a socialist revolution here in the us. seriously!
It’s just too bad there wasn’t one of those responsible gun owners around to prevent terrorists from kidnapping a civilian. Speaking of, where are all of these gun toting Americans that believe they have them to defend America? Fucking cowards.
Be the change you want to see in the world
Omg it so horrible 🤦🏻♂️
So was she a US citizen? They let her go. Is screaming that I’m a US citizen sufficient to avoid ice detention?
Police don’t have the right to pull people over, ask them to exit their vehicle, cuff them, or put them in the back of a vehicle (detain them) without a reason. Stopping someone without reason is harassment, the rest is assault/battery (depending on location)/kidnapping without providing the reason. If they give you a reason they can detain you, but if that reason does not follow the laws or is determined to be unreasonable by a judge the body making the arrest is supposed to be held responsible and penalized, possibly making them open to a lawsuit. Aka she should sue them, and taxpayers should be pissed we are having to pay for this
You must not live in the US or you are very sheltered if so. That is not at all how things go down here. Police and ice do this sort of thing all the time. With no consequence. Screaming doesn’t usually stop the harassment.
MAGA ®etards were holding the skin color chart upside down.
With this casual ableism you’d fit right in with MAGA.
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She yelled no such thing. From the article about it in the Miami Herald, she wouldn’t recognize the ICE agents as legit.
No shit, i wouldnt either…law enforcement will give you name and badge number when asked and dont wear masks.
Why you gotta be shitty like this?
Why are you lying?
Please don’t make her part of the shitty conspiracy
