• Aether Mechanic@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.orgOP
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      No. People on food stamps should not be using food stamps to buy mcdonalds. It’s cheaper buying food staples at grocery store. People are free to buy Mcdonalds with their own money, but not money that I am giving them.

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            A millionth of cent from your taxes goes to each recipient and that has you acting like little tyrant.

            Conservativism is a mental illness, seek therapy.

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              I’m not acting like a little tyrant. I didn’t start the bill, and I am not in the state where it’s happening. My state already denies SNAP people buying McDonalds. Most states don’t allow it. That state is just catching up to the other states.

              So what are you actually concerned about? Are you also upset that all the other states don’t allow it? Even the democrat-run ones?

              Also, I’m not a conservative. So nice try.

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                It’s like you don’t understand that not everybody has the means to make regular trips to a grocery store. Denying accessible food to poor people solely so you can save a single cent over the course of a year is a conservative ideal that you subscribe to. And all it does is hurt poor people. But you don’t care.

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                  My state, like most states, already bans SNAP benefits being used to pay for McDonalds food. Many Democrat-let states also don’t allow it.

                  Here are states that don’t allow SNAP to be used for McDonalds:

                  Alabama Kay Ivey Republican

                  Alaska Mike Dunleavy Republican

                  Arkansas Sarah Huckabee Sanders Republican

                  Colorado Jared Polis Democrat

                  Connecticut Ned Lamont Democrat

                  Delaware Matt Meyer Democrat

                  Florida Ron DeSantis Republican

                  Georgia Brian Kemp Republican

                  Hawaii Josh Green Democrat

                  Idaho Brad Little Republican

                  Indiana Mike Braun / Eric Holcomb* Republican

                  Iowa Kim Reynolds Republican

                  Kansas Laura Kelly Democrat

                  Kentucky Andy Beshear Democrat

                  Louisiana Jeff Landry Republican

                  Maine Janet Mills Democrat

                  Minnesota Tim Walz Democrat

                  Mississippi Tate Reeves Republican

                  Missouri Mike Parson Republican

                  Montana Greg Gianforte Republican

                  Nebraska Jim Pillen Republican

                  Nevada Joe Lombardo Republican

                  New Hampshire Kelly Ayotte Republican

                  New Jersey Phil Murphy Democrat

                  New Mexico Michelle Lujan Grisham Democrat

                  North Carolina Josh Stein Democrat

                  North Dakota Kelly Armstrong Republican

                  Ohio Mike DeWine Republican

                  Oklahoma Kevin Stitt Republican

                  Oregon Tina Kotek Democrat

                  Pennsylvania Josh Shapiro Democrat

                  South Carolina Henry McMaster Republican

                  South Dakota Larry Rhoden Republican

                  Tennessee Bill Lee Republican

                  Texas Greg Abbott Republican

                  Utah Spencer Cox Republican

                  Vermont Phil Scott Republican

                  Washington Bob Ferguson Democrat

                  West Virginia Patrick Morrisey Republican

                  Wisconsin Tony Evers Democrat

                  Wyoming Mark Gordon Republican

      • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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        People who are fucked the most are not deserving of autonomy?

        I get that it would be advisable for them to get better quality food. But poor people are humans and not your servants. if a food stamp recipient wants to blow their monthly benefits on one meal at the most expensive restaurant in the city then end up in the ER for malnutrition at the end of the month that is their life they are gambling with.

        Do people who work fulltime at Walmart do not have the right of agency?

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          Of course they are not my servants. But their free money given to them to eat, can have strings. And one of those strings should be no McDonalds. So no, a food stamp recipient should not be able to blow their montly benefits on one meal at the most expensive restaurant in the city.

          You know what would happen if we let them do that in your little scenario? They’d say they don’t have any money and shouldn’t be blamed for being “human.”

          If you came to me, and asked for some cash to buy a car, and I gave it to you because I thought that would help you get a step up and improve your life, then I’d be pretty pissed if you instead bought hookers and blow.

          Dude, get a grip. Yes, people should be able to do whatever they want with their money they earned. But not welfare. lol

          Also pick a fucking side. Most of Lemmy are vegan who hate the capitalist meat-daddy called McDonalds. But now you suddenly are over your hate for it, because a republican said it was a bad idea for welfare to buy it?!

          If it was a democrat, you’d say, “Yes! They are caring about the person’s health. Good job!”

          Get the fuck outta here with your nonsense… lmao

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            the boss pays you money, why can’t he put strings in there too?

            I’m not in favour of McDonald’s, but I’m more against this bullshit that poor don’t deserve agency and rights.

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              Because I actually work for, and earn for my boss. People don’t work and earn for welfare. It’s free to them.

              But I have a solution, since you are so passionate about this, and you make more than the average person in the US right now. I think ya should take 1/2 of your paycheck, and give out to people who are on SNAP. You can divide it up, or just give it to one person.

              Seriously! Do that! And just cut back your living. It’ll be tight, you can do it. Now do that for a year, and tell me how happy you’d be if you saw those people you were giving your money to, going to mcdonalds, buying the latest fashion, etc.

              Then come back and tell us how awesome it was or not awesome it was, seeing them waste that money you gave to them in order to help them out.

              Because, see, there is NOTHING and NO LAW that says you can’t give your money away. At all. You feel bad for SNAP people, I get that and admire it. So step up, take some deep cuts, and donate YOUR money to them. You are free to do that.

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                I’d much rather focus on regulating how corporations spend their much larger federal subsidies than quibbling over how families spend SNAP benefits. You’re penny-wise, pound-foolish. Fiscal irresponsibility is the hallmark of conservative thought.

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                Damn, your full of assumptions, I don’t make more than the average, and I already spent 20$ per week making 20kg of food for a mutual aid to feed homeless, they deserve a warm meal. and you showed your entitled ass, you do consider yourself superior to the poor because you “earned it”. which is bs because most people on smap work full time.

                queue in about you complaining that I’m making it up, or I’m being performative, or I’m doing it only to feel better…

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                  I think you are making it up, being performative, and doing it to feel better. And yes, you do make more than average. So how much more are ya gonna donate to the people who get snap? The do deserve a warm meal. Which is cheaper if they make it than if they buy mcdonalds. They would actually have MORE warm meals if they but basics rather than a McDonalds meal.

                  Bro, think about it. You are arguing for people to spend their welfare benefts on McDonalds. That doesn’t make any financial sense at all! lol

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            $34/yr is what the average annual cost per taxpayer. Low income people pay tax, too.

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                The cards accepted by restaurant are specifically coded. Anyone else’s card would be rejected when run.

                Pretty damned rough, to answer your question. Maybe cold packaged sandwich, tinned tuna, beans, maybe the homeless make a fire and heat the whole can, but now that homeless is illegal, maybe not. Maybe the mom working two jobs throws a frozen meal in the microwave before her next shift. How nutritious is that? But late to work and fired, no roof, no power. No running water maybe. Loses the other job for lack of hygiene. Kids are now wards of the state. That’s surely cheaper than $34/month for McDonald’s or Lance crackers, right?

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                  Though tough, nothing you wrote is a good argument for someone using the SNAP benefits for McDonalds. The great thing tho, is that you are totally free to donate most (or even all) of your paycheck to people so they can buy McDonalds. No one is stopping you from doing that.

                  The vast majority of states do not allow it. Even the democrat-run ones.

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        You can’t buy McDonald’s with Snap so this is a bullshit bill trying denying people snap altogether.

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          Not true. Some states, you CAN but mcdonalds with SNAP. This isn’t trying to deny people SNAP altogether. They are trying to change is so that people are not allowed to buy McDonalds with SNAP.

          Do you think people should be able to buy mcdonalds with SNAP benefits?

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            What fuck you talking about, I am on Snap no I can’t buy McDonald’s with it, and fucking No you shouldn’t be allowed to. McDonald’s is horrible for you and snap should be used for healthy food.

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              Ok, so we agree. I don’t know what you are angry about. Do you realize that this story is about THIS state, that DOES allow people to buy Mcdonald with snap? And the lawmaker is trying to change it.

              So why are you angry? The lawmaker is introducing a bill that agrees with your sentiments. Did you read the article? Or even the title, “Republican seeks to ban food stamps at McDonald’s”

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                  Nah, I am agreeing with you that people should NOT be able to buy McDonalds with snap benefits. And the lawmaker is trying to keep people from doing that as well.

                  The other people in this thread are trying to say it’s ok to buy Mcd with snap. But I don’t think it should be allowed. And most states don’t allow it.