To be clear, a sitting president of the United States of America is either a child rapist, or is being blackmailed by child rapists.
Nuh uh, thats phrased like an xor.
Probably both
So, all this talk about, “If there was anything to see, why didn’t Biden do anything about it, while he was in charge?” was all just more bullshit, then?
So what exactly did Biden accomplish regarding the Epstein files then?
I’m usually a Biden defender. He was a liberal, but was arguably the 2nd most progressive president in US history. That being said, I don’t remember seeing Trump in handcuffs and an orange jump suit. I don’t remember seeing the US calling for Prince Andrew to be extradited. I don’t remember dozens of wealthy and powerful people being brought to justice.
So, yeah, I still think it’s fair to criticize the Biden administration for not doing enough.
He was a liberal, but was arguably the 2nd most progressive president in US history.
his anti-gay stance was a cornerstone of his first presidential campaign; then he conventiently went along w gay-marriage after the public opinion had already had changed on it; then his presidency was marked by a pair laws that gives cover to anti-gay bigots and an anti-trans law a the end of his term.
nevermind that he did less than nothing in making the equal rights amendment a thing and leveraged against project 2025.
Don’t forget he threw Anita Hill under the bus and let her get hit by every wheel which to me is extremely gross.
i think that this friendship with strom thurmond was the most stomach turning.
2nd most progressive president
Literally nicknamed ‘Genocide Joe’.
So go ahead and name for me all of the YS presidents who weren’t complicit in genocide then?
Heck, I said 2nd most because FDR is the undisputed most progressive president in history, but he still oversaw Japanese internment camps on US soil. Biden is, arguably, the 2nd most progressive US president in history. That’s a relative position and an incredibly low bar.
Biden is a careerist warmonger and opportunist there is nothing progressive about him.
Unless you just fully discard brown and black people as humans and you transform the word progressive into “gay rights”. In which case Biden was still a horrible opportunist.
I’m still waiting for you to name which US Presidents were more progressive
When measured against their contemporaries? JFK, FDR, Eisenhower, Carter. Hell, Biden was a contemporary of Carter and was very much to the right of him.
Which is still a meaningless distinction because the least antisemitic Nazi is still a fucking nazi.
Investigations actually take a lot of time. If they’re done correctly, they typically take years. People don’t seem to understand that there are meticulous procedures to follow when doing this stuff. If even one shred of evidence was mishandled or collected and catalogued in the wrong way, the whole thing can potentially fall apart in court. Every “I” needs to be dotted, and every “T” needs to be crossed. And then they all need to to be triple checked again, for accuracy.
Expecting results to happen in a matter of months or even just a few years, is 100% unrealistic. If you want to know what a rushed investigation and/or prosecution looks like, Trump is giving you all the examples of how that works out. His prosecutors all look incompetent and every case they’ve brought before a judge is getting tossed out on every kind of technicality, in addition to a total lack of credible evidence. Why? Because they are not following the well established procedures that are designed to guarantee a conviction.
Biden had the supreme courts OK to do whatever he wanted as long as it was an official act. He didn’t need to worry about the details.
Should a president have that power? No, but he did and his refusal to wield it has left us in the mess we’re in now. He should have made an example out of Trump and all his traitorous cronies to show exactly why a president shouldn’t have that power. It would have taken maga out of the equation and spurred reforms to keep that kind of thing from happening again all in one shot. Instead he sat on his hands and handed the sword to Trump at the end of his term.
Biden had the supreme courts OK to do whatever he wanted as long as it was an official act. He didn’t need to worry about the details.
That’s not actually true. At least not to the extent that people assume. What the Supreme Court did, was retroactively justify all past and potential presidential actions, that would otherwise be considered illegal for a regular person to have committed.
Meaning: You and I would be guilty of massive crimes if we were responsible for some of the things US presidents have to do, in the course of executing their duties as president. Under any normal circumstances, nearly every president would be guilty of war crimes for pretty much every conflict the US was involved in. Not to mention all the clandestine actions taken against foreign nations or individuals, in the name of “National Security”. “The President” is ultimately responsible for hundreds or even thousands of civilian deaths every year, just by allowing troops to engage hostile forces around the world. Collateral damage is guaranteed.
Ever since 9/11 there has been a debate over whether or not to prosecute US presidents for all the horrific shit they cause around the world. All the Supreme Court did with that decision, was to end that debate.
What they didn’t do, was define ALL of their actions as “official acts”. When they made that decision, Jack Smith simply went back to the charges against Trump, and refined them, to show that he was not acting as President when he committed them. He was acting in his own interests…and all of a sudden he was vulnerable to prosecution again.
If Biden had gone after Trump directly, it would have been interpreted the same way. That he was simply getting rid of a rival candidate, so that he could affect the outcome of the election. Trump needed to be convicted in court, as a private cut zen that had committed crimes carrying a specific sentence.
The Supremes Court didn’t just give the president the right to do anything he wanted. That should be obvious by all the legal challenges that are being filed against Trump’s abuses of power during the past several months. He has a lot of latitude, but he is not above the law itself. If what he’s doing violates his Constitutional authority, he can be held accountable. Although they will probably have to wait until he’s out of office to go after him for it. And make no mistake, they are making a list.
If Biden had gone after Trump directly, it would have been interpreted the same way. That he was simply getting rid of a rival candidate, so that he could affect the outcome of the election. Trump needed to be convicted in court, as a private cut zen that had committed crimes carrying a specific sentence.
Biden had more than enough pretext to act in an official capacity. Trump incited an insurrection against this country. Biden could have black-bagged him as an enemy of the state and been done with it before anyone could render any resistance. Regardless, if it was found to be illegal later Biden is old as fuck so he wouldn’t have to live with the consequences anyway.
Although they will probably have to wait until he’s out of office to go after him for it. And make no mistake, they are making a list.
Where the fuck have you been? He’s not giving that office up again.
But they’re making a list. They’re gonna take fifteen years of investigation and then seriously reprimand whomever is alive and maybe even curse at them.
Trump incited an insurrection against this country.
Except that was never prosecuted, and there is basically no mechanism specified in the Constitution on how to enforce that amendment. This went through the courts when several states tried to get Trump’s name removed from the ballot. It failed due to a lack of clarity. The only way it could have been enforced, is if he was actually convicted of that charge. That’s what Jack Smith was going after with the J6 charhes against him. That case would have not only disqualified him from ever holding office again…it would have put him in federal prison.
Biden could have black-bagged him as an enemy of the state and been done with it before anyone could render any resistance.
And what would that have looked like to Republicans in Congress, and especially the 30%+ of the population that are a part of Trump’s cult? We’d be in the middle of a civil war right now, with Democrats playing the role of autocratic dictators, instead of Trump.
Regardless, if it was found to be illegal later Biden is old as fuck so he wouldn’t have to live with the consequences anyway.
Except you can’t unfire that bullet. And once that line has been crossed, there would be no functional rule of law left in the country. If Democrats embrace the same scale of lawlessness that Trump and Republicans are trying to achieve, then there’s nothing left to fight for. They would be shredding the Constitution the same way Trump is.
They need to plug those loopholes, not exploit them for their own benefit. That’s how we got here in the first place. You can’t exactly claim Trump shouldn’t be allowed to do all this, while also claiming Democrats should. Laws for thee, but not for me, is the problem…not the solution.
Except that was never prosecuted,
Don’t care. They’re not prosecuting all the people they’re deporting now either.
And what would that have looked like to Republicans in Congress, and especially the 30%+ of the population that are a part of Trump’s cult? We’d be in the middle of a civil war right now, with Democrats playing the role of autocratic dictators, instead of Trump.
So now we’re dealing with Trump as an autocratic dicatator and he’s not going to give it up without force. If it was going to happen either way better to kick things off while the Dems have the reigns than after everything’s been handed over to him.
Except you can’t unfire that bullet. And once that line has been crossed, there would be no functional rule of law left in the country.
Not being able to unfire the bullet is the point. Afterwards the rest of the Dems could have turned on him and plugged the holes that allowed the autocracy, presumably with the support of the remaining republicans who agree that this was not a good thing to have happen. Again we’re dealing with it now either way and the Dems are too soft to stop anything that’s happening. Whining about it in court and on twitter doesn’t fucking unfuck all the lives being ruined by Trumps administration.
People don’t seem to understand that there are meticulous procedures to follow when doing this stuff. If even one shred of evidence was mishandled or collected and catalogued in the wrong way, the whole thing can potentially fall apart in court.
So Luigi Mangione is still a free man waiting to be indicted. It’s an extraordinary important case so the government wouldn’t arrest someone without knowing for sure they’ll win the court case.
That’s how it works? Right?
Luigi Mangione will most likely go free, due to investigators mishandling the evidence against him and violating his right to sue process…and will then have the option to sue the fuck out of them afterwards.
Is that how you want things to go with the Epstein assholes?
As a note, the supreme court has recently gutted section 1983, so it’s now basically impossible to sue over violated rights.
Epstein was arrested in 2019, before Biden was elected.
He had 4 full years to do anything at all and ended up with nothing.
Not according to Epstein’s victims. They seem to be under the impression that the investigation was actually on track to produce results…but then Trump took office and it all got shut down. That’s why they’re all standing up now, demanding that the files get released. The cover up is happening right now…not when Biden was in office.
