Gen z and younger are consumers of tiktok. It’s important for conservative parties to shore up their future bases. We already saw effective other platforms were
It is being sold to Larry Ellison, one of the biggest donors to Israel. So you bet TikTok is going to be filled with IDF thirst trap propaganda soon.
US media fell for it again award. This is how Trump always negotiates he announces a “deal” that’s actually just his initial offer and then calls up whoever it is and begs them to play along and not embarrass him because he already announced it, which works on NYC construction contractors but Xi doesn’t give a shit.
Asked about final control of the app’s algorithm — a central question in the legality of any deal — he said that was “being worked out” and that American investors are “going to have control over it.
I wonder if they’ll actually sell the code source… that would be surprising. The best they’ll get may be just a compiled version they can’t do anything with.
Like the backpedaling of Trump’s T1 phone to initially be claimed as “Made in America” until being publicly called out, not only by inquisitive people but also by a company furthest along in producing a fully “Made in USA” phone. The T1 phone marketing has been relegated to featuring a “proudly American” design.
Kind of sad that you have to root for a fascist dictator prick to keep the fascist wannabe dictator prick in check.
Well, we root for the more rational and predictable dictator.
Thanks for posting that. I was looking for confirmation or debunk and this adds some clarity.
I remember when Rupert Murdoch’s company, News Corporation, bought Myspace. Maybe US TikTok will see the same fate
It will lose its luster when there is a noticeable political slant.
Ok, but didn’t they buy Myspace when it was already getting less popular and a lot of people had switched to Facebook?
I would make a joke if this wasn’t deeply, deeply worrying.
This is how the Nazis solidify support in genZ and genAlpha.
America is fucked.
A lot more than America becomes fucked when tiktok becomes owned by these guys. It’ll become their global platform to radicalize youth Nazis from one corner of the globe to another. Time to hope the youth outside America are smart enough to see thorough this, but if our recent Canadian election was any indication then they are not.
A lot more than America
I agree, but this is just tiktok in America. Everywhere else, users remain on the global version.
‘America is fucked’ because this comes alongside everything else - control of the media, control of all branches of government, building the paramilitary Gestapo (ICE) etc. The whole western world is at risk but America is further down the road.
Wdym by that last part?
TikTok? I haven’t even seen a pendulum clock in decades.
All these kids and their tikkity toks and instant grams
This is your reminder that tiktok has always been brain rot and you need to delete your account and app.
The fact it was bought by Nazi’s to spread their propaganda is just one more reason for people to delete the app and give them the least amount of views possible.
I would love to start a petition to ban tiktok in states once they turn it into GestapoTok. I mean the right is all about states rights right?
Yeah but uncensored brainrot is still better than propaganda brainrot.
One of the reasons tiktok became so popular is that it didn’t go around banning entire swaths of content under the guise of “healthy content” like Facebook (Insta), X, and Reddit do.
This isn’t even a Trump issue specifically, Biden wanted TIkTok to do the same. Either follow policy demands or sell to an American owner.
In what fantasyland is Tiktok uncensored? Tiktok is the whole reason we get screenshots where words like sex, kill, dead, gun, assault, rape, and every swear word imaginable are censored. Tiktok is the reason for euphemisms like “seggs” (sex) and “grape” (rape). There was a time when food content struggled on Tiktok because you’d get shadow banned for having a knife in your video.
those concepts arent the ones americans at-large are being blinded to, nor the ones the establishment american government is worried about
It’s always been propaganda brainrot. The CCP was just more subtle about it by suppressing content that was critical of them, suppressing content by “ugly” people, and quietly siphoning all of your data.
And no, that’s not en endorsement of any alternative. They’ll all bad. That just all have different bias.
Half the reason it was banned was because they would not put the fix in against Israel criticism. For some reason the video footage of our lawmakers having sex with underage kids has led them to have an Israel first policy.
Don’t worry.
The Dems are just about to write a sternly-worded letter.
Voters made sure they can’t do anything else.
*An official letter, signed by at least three colleagues.
Schmuck Schumer is hard at work, editing his last one, so we don’t think it’s the same one.
Jokes on him, nobody is paying any attention to him anyway. He could give the same speech every time, and nobody would even notice.
What a loser. If we aren’t going to kick him out, just ignore him, and let him get back to his insider trading. That’s his only priority anyway. He might as well be a MAGA.
Yep.
JFC
And they will even threaten to wag their fingers!
If we’re lucky they’ll do something that speaks to the youth, like doing Tiktok dances in protest
One can only hope, friend.
Chat GPT, I need a sternly worded letter please.
Oh words many sternly worded words in a letter.
I don’t mean a letter with words on it, I mean I want to tell a group of people things so I want to write those ideas down on paper in a sternly way…
No I’m not angry! You know what? I’m just gonna do this by myself!
Shout-out to every dumbass that thought just because that bill to give the president to unilaterally designate companies as foreign companies national security threats and ban them was being passed during a democratic party Presidency, that meant the ACLU and EFF were wrong and this was actually a good thing. The most popular easily abusable legislation of the past ten years.
Don’t support government powers that you wouldn’t want your opposition to possess. They will be in power someday, bet on that no matter what. Especially stupid stupid after 2020 Portland federal law enforcement disappearing people it should have been clear that the powers of the executive should have been limited before it was going to inevitably be in the power of opposition again but nope, Tiktok bad because China makes us feel insecure.
Stupid bill and stupid people that were, I know ACLU and EFF are against it but TikTok needs to be banned, dumbasses - a bill can be written that targets a single company rather than a blanket power to block out any company from that selection of countries. Of course now that it is law, a willing congress - an inevitability - can remove the country specifics or add any and for some reason dumbasses after 2020 were like - it won’t be abused
And the reason the Democrats and Republicans wanted to kill Tick Tock was Israel. Because we have an Israel first policy just because they have video footage of our lawmakers having sex with kids and their business Pals as well.
TikTok US to be rebranded as LikKok
Damn you … I shot coffee out my nose with that. 😂
Burn baby burn!
Comes in flavours, likkok orange, and likkok red.
Trump insiders claim
Suuuuuuure. I’ll believe it when I…actually probably never.
It was already a propaganda mill. Now it will be for the Nazis instead of China.
Now it will be for the US fascists instead of chinese fascists, Nazis were german.
It will actually be for both! Emphasis on the part of the article where it says China will still have a stake of 20% in the company, AND they get to keep the algorithm.
All the US is doing is buying up physical assets and infrastructure, and the user base. The juicy bits they wanted, they didn’t get. Everyone is likely going to jump off of TikTok the moment it comes time to segment the US market from the Rest of the World. China doesn’t have to do a thing because Douyin is already maintained separately for the Chinese market.
The thing that will kill this is forcing users to migrate to a new app. Removing the largest friction barrier that prevents people from leaving your app by forcing them to cross it is a great way to scatter the TikTok userbase to the four winds.
I hope this kills TikTok, and that the people who enjoyed using it remember who was responsible for it.
China doesn’t have to do a thing because Douyin is already maintained separately for the Chinese market.
Nobody really wanted to grapple with the reality. They just saw “Chinese investors mean Communist propaganda means Americans most be protected from the thing”. Then Cold War brainrot kicked in and that was that.
A country that fumbles this hard doesn’t deserve to exist.
It’s the same kind of people who think Socialism means Communism, without realizing that anything funded by taxpayers is already, technically, a socialized knowledge/service/product. That includes the roads their vehicles drive on and the military if you want to put it that far.
One might incorporate principles of the other, but that doesn’t make it the other product automatically.
In the meantime, the Poopaganda machine will continue running with the kind of ignorance being shown.
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Oh it’s been working for GovCo and Israel since it came back from the 1 day ban and Chou started licking Chumps ass. The change was immediate and noticeable.
Yup every top comment on TikTok now is almost always the most divisive shit. I assume they’re doing the equivalent of reddits “sort by controversial”. It changed as soon as it came back.
Of course it was about Israel
Let’s be real. They’re all working together.
Now it will be overt instead of a vague conspiracy.
Is it not already a propaganda mill by convention? I assumed that was part of the deal to continue operating.
It wasn’t always purely right wing propaganda, they want it full right wint propaganda,
Yeah but… not the right propaganda!
right propaganda
Well…
Before it was a vague sinophobic conspiracy theory pushed by big tech and other fascists… Now it’s a reality.
The only time I ever hear the term “sinophobic”, it’s someone using it to hand-wave away criticisms of the Chinese government.
Sort of like “anti-semitic” and criticisms of Israel.
Didn’t you invalidate your own comment though?
No?
You should read the comment you replied to then. Or is it your own you’re confused about?
The person I replied to was saying that the idea that Tiktok was a Chinese propaganda machine was a “vague ‘Sinophobic’ conspiracy theory”, and I’m pointing out how they used ‘sinophobic’ to dismiss a legitimate concern about a state government. Much like people use “anti-semitic”. Or “Russophobic”.
What are you confused about? How did I invalidate my own comment? Please elaborate.
You dismissed sinophobia by admitting you dismiss the existence of sinophobia. Both in your first comment, and your most recent one.
If you recognized the sinophobia pointed out to you, your comment would invalidate itself. It seems, however, that you are unable and/or unwilling to do so, which takes away credibility from the rest of your claims.
Yeah I thought this deal happened months ago. I guess now they’re being public about it.
If I was in the USA, I would be ready to run real quick. The crackdown on the left is just beginning, get ready for massive surveillance, fully controlled media, reeducation camps, etc. GAFAM are all bending to the dictator. It’s not a question of if, it’s a question of when and how.
Myself and most of my family are fleeing next week, and I’m still worried that this infection will spread to where we’re going. They want this to be global.
The crackdown on the left is just beginning
lol bruh they erased the left like 80 years ago.
IDK, what’s happening now has nothing to do with the usual capitalist propaganda and brainwashing of the past decades. I agree most of the west hasn’t seen any real left govern states since the end of the 70s, but at then pace things are going and unless something huge happens, I guarantee you will soon look at the past years as some decent times
A lot of us are too poor to get out. Don’t think Canada is taking political refugees just yet :/
I’m Canadian and I don’t feel safe either. It’s a new era of global fascism and surveillance, most of us wont be safe anywhere. Call me paranoid, but I’m already working on a escape and I wont ever disclose details online. Crazy times.
There was never a left in USA, buddy.
Oh right, thanks. So everyone’s fine with the current administration I guess. My bad and good luck the pedo-dictatorship.
I think only you are fine with the dictatorship.
I’m just hoping we don’t get to the point where I feel compelled to leave.
In the meantime, I’m looking for parts of the world where I could live for an extended period of time in case the worst happens. I don’t think we’ll get there, but it’s always good to have a backup plan.
Young people decide what’s popular, if you fuck it up they will bail for another platform. Hopefully someone spins up a competitor quickly to grab the people in between the forced “new app”
Dude Facebook hasn’t been cool in a decade and it’s still very much a thing
It’s alive due to Messenger and Marketplace.
God, I miss Craigslist.
Craigslist still exists. Use it.
Craigslist exists like my totaled car exists: yeah, it’s technically there, but it’s a shell of itself and doesn’t actually have anything worthwhile. Maybe in large metros it’s still a viable option, but even in a 250,000 people metro it’s a ghost town.
Can’t buy things if no one is selling there, can’t sell things if no one is buying there.
I just bought a great bike using Craigslist in February. Maybe it’s a locality thing, folk use a different platform near you but it still gets plenty of traffic here.
Yeah, I hate that I had to use Facebook market as it was probably the first time I had logged in in years. But there were easily 20x more results when I was looking for a server rack on there than CL.
I still use Craigslist! Have alerts set up right now
Craigslist is still around although not as active as Facebook Marketplace.
wait until the boomer generation stops using it…
I’ve been waiting for the boomer generation to stop any of what they’re doing for 30 years. I suspect they’ll still be a viable political bloc for the next 20 years. And even then, gen x and gen z will pick up right where they left off.
Genz conservative voters tend to be more right wing than their parents or boomers family. That’s why they want to target the younger population
Lol, you mean when they die? Yeah, that’s not a bad point. They aren’t getting any younger.
the dieing days are here for the first wave of boomers and it’s only going to increase… day by day
im genx and I’m of the opinion that my parents and their generation are the most selfish and most self centered generation in the history of this country. They spoiled their opportunities to do what they thought was right as young people… so some genxrs are also pieces of shit but most people of my generation understand we are a skipped generation and the young people are the future. We are not like our parents that is for sure.
The mass die-off of boomers will be a great thing. They ain’t all bad, but they are the worst generation. Absolute poison.
Based on my parents, I’m pretty sure it’s genx keeping it alive.
At least in 50 more years humanity will finally be free of Zuckerberg
I just had this funny thought— so boomers adopted and settled into Facebook after millennials made it popular. And then everyone except for boomers stopped actively using it. It’s kind of their “retirement social media platform.”
Now you have TikTok, which the millennials flocked to after GenZ popularized it. Does this mean after Gen Z flees the platform that it’s just going to be the Facebook equivalent for millennials?I dunno… I’m a millennial and no one I know uses TikTok, they all use Instagram.Anecdotal, sure, but still.
I’d say the biggest difference is that Millennials tend to be more aware that Boomers of who else is actually using the platform and why, and to have/acquire knowledge about other platforms and transition to something new.
I’d be genuinely curious what the real age demographic of regular Facebook users is in America, but I highly doubt Meta would ever release those figures.
Doubt they can even sort out who is and isn’t a not, themselves
Ya because of boomers and people using messenger and marketplace
You’re underestimating the propaganda machine . All those right-wing influencers didn’t get to the top of every chart because young people decided them to be popular.
Susan Wojiciki genuinely spearheaded the rise of the far right on social media by giving endless support and exposure to the likes of the Paul brothers, Mr.Beast, and right wing commentators who regularly broke ToS but rarely if ever got banned or demonitized for it.
She truly was the Ronald Reagan of social media personalities. May she burn in Hell.
“you sweet, summer child”
Hopefully someone spins up a competitor
Done and done.
Wouldn’t it be cool if people used loops instead!
You have to use words like “unalive” and it’s still popular?
True for us 1%ers, nobody else seems to give a fuck.
if you fuck it up they will bail for another platform
They might also start using another platform. But they’re unlikely to leave completely.
Cory Doctorow put out the first hour of the audiobook on Enshittification for free, and it covers this very well.
First and foremost: That is not what this is about. Well, that isn’t what the sane parts of this is about. It isn’t that tiktok is too popular.
It is that it is very blatantly a tool of the CCP. Much like facebook and twitter are tools of the US government. There are many articles documenting how facebook has been used to steal elections and… fuel coups. And musk et al are pretty open that they did the same with twitter and the 2024 US Presidential election. And… it is hard to not be suspicious when “tiktok is the only streaming platform that is willing to talk about the genocide in Palestine” and “I refuse to vote for genocide, full stop” were so tightly coupled.
No country should allow such blatant manipulation of its people by a foreign nation. Whether it is the US, Russia (see: RT getting banned the fuck out of most western nations), China, or even frigging Mauritius.
Second… Do you really think People have that much agency? Not individuals, but People.
