Remember that episode of Black Mirror in which the prime minister was blackmailed into fucking a pig? Starmerism is that with flags.

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    What’s liberal about what’s going on? It’s all authoritarians keeping the population under heel.

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          New to you maybe, but this is old speak. The idea that liberalism means progress and tolerance is itself a recent ideological construct emerging from America’s right wing-ultra right wing political spectrum; like all ideas whose purpose is to justify capitalism, it is violently at odds with reality. Liberals are currently supporting a genocide here, and for the last couple hundred years most people around the world have correctly associated it with rapacious colonialism, imperial domination, and endless capitalist exploitation. Given that Orwell was a hack and a federal informant, and given that it’s good to learn to think for oneself, do you have anything of substance to say about this?

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          In addition to what others have said, neoliberalism more specifically has always been cruel, violent, and authoritarian since the beginning. Margaret Thatcher was not exactly a person who believed in peace, love, and togetherness.

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            Neoliberalism is an afront to liberalism. Please don’t conflate the two. It ignores anything to do with the rights of anybody except the ruling class.

            Liberals believe that every person should be free to live their best life, and that includes freedom from oppression, poverty and other social disadvantages. Therefore it’s government’s role to lift those barriers. They also believe that government can be one of those oppressors and so favour regulating as little as possible, but also recognise the need for regulations when it stops the powerful exploiting the weak.

            Neoliberals just believe that companies shouldn’t be subject the regulation. It’s greedy, and exploitative.

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              so when and where was this magic period of liberalism where it supported all those good things? when was it effective in curtailing the capitalists?

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      They mean neo-liberals.

      This is Lemmy, where auth-left propaganda has twisted the word liberal into something else because they want to normalise authoritarianism. Just ignore them.