Apparently they saw this:
Video: Miami Food Trucks at Alligator Alcatraz Spark Controversy
Which tells you why it’s so important to keep accurate notes of who’s a nazi bitch and who’s not.
This time around, we can keep lists too.
How long before “it’s a job” no longer covers your ass? We keep accepting this stance.
The Nuremberg trials established that “I was just following orders” is not a defense for crimes against humanity.
Funny how we still allow it today. Nuremberg trials just held those in WWII responsible. Look around at the world, it is filled with people that " just follow orders."
For the record, I have never accepted this stance and have always stood against the excuse.
Explanation is not justification.
How many people do you know work for a company like Amazon, Wal-Mart, Meta, police officers, military personal, etc…?
Shit swamp prison is just the most extreme version of it.
Obscuring your DOT number is illegal. I’m sure the police will definitely enforce that rule in this instance…
Oh man, that’ll be the one thing that makes the whole operation unravel! The cops’ll get him! Checkmate, gators!
To be fair America has being do this to anyone not white and Christian since it’s founding
Yep, but now they’re being extremely flagrant about it.
Track every one of these motherfuckers.
Unrelated to anything here, what are these called?
Cell phone stand
That would be a metal as fuck cell phone stand
Caltrops
Thanks. I wonder what they are used for.
I have no idea. But here’s an easy way to make them.
Thanks! Still not sure exactly what I’d do with them, but I do love arts and crafts
Area denial weapons. The name comes from the Old English “calcatrippe”, meaning “heel-trap”, which itself came from the French “chause-trape”, or “shoe-trap”.
Their design ensures that they will always land with one spike pointing up, so they can be scattered in the path of advancing enemies to slow them down or injure their feet.
Troping Cals obvs…
Doesn’t look like anything to me. These violent delights will have violent ends, though.
Would you really be a supplier to a concentration camp?
Handy list of exhibitors from this year’s Boarder Patrol Expo.
Matthews Environmental Solutions stands out to me for providing cremation equipment.
Also, I remember Servpro was one of the companies that managed Trump’s child detention centers his first time around.
Me, no. Corpo Amerika absolutely if it’s profitable and low-risk. So which Lemmy “community” is the one where these corps are being ID’d (with all crowdsourced supporting evidence) and named and shamed?
It’s hard when they hide identifying info
We just need to reeeaaallly dedicated folks to just follow them for a while and post pics/video. It’s a public road, you’re just driving. Or something like that.
If I was a bumbling idiot who thinks trump is telling the truth I would.
But if that was the case you would be proudly showing your support right?
Only if it makes America great again.
They’re proud to do it.
It’s almost like every single detail and level of this is steeped in corruption and lawlessness
Why are mods deleting comments and locking articles?
My comment was prefaced as being hyperbole and I said ICE should be held to account. What is this, Reddit?
mods here in this comm are known fascist supporters. if you “dehumanize” a nazi they boot you.
ICE should not only be held accountable but demolished.
New refugee from Reddit - is there a better community for discussing politics without heavy handed mods stepping in?
“Discussing politics” meaning calling for violence? You could start your own community for that if you want.
Violence is a necessary answer to fascism. Can’t win against a bully with your hands tied behind your back screaming for peace.
Where is the call for violence?
My comment was something like “this is purely hyperbole but more brave Americans should hold ice to account” in the post about the 10 arrested folks in Texas. I’m not being pedantic I genuinely feel if a person lives in a fascist state then the individual has a right to hold the state to account for actions the state commits. I don’t see why I need to kowtow and sympathize with ICE… I just don’t know how else to describe my feelings.
From my understanding, that’s what has been removed, and why another thread about ICE officers being ambushed / shot by vigilantes on the 4th is locked.
Gotcha. Yeah. not ok with calls for violence. that’s just fed bait and unsafe anyway.
I’m 100% ok with reminding folks trash ideologies beget trash people who give up their humanity.
If you convince the public that one group is undeserving of human rights, then it’s easier to convince them of the next group. It’s also incredibly easy to expand the first group you’ve already dehumanized to include even more people than it did before.
Even if you think nazi’s don’t deserve human rights, what definition of nazi are you using? On the internet, especially Lemmy, people will take each other out of context, call each other nazis over the slightest disagreement and then strut around like they’ve somehow won the debate.
You say nazis don’t deserve human rights but then people go around calling each other nazis over nothingburger disagreements which, according to your logic, immediately revokes their human rights.
And the jump to “the mods must be fascist supporters” is an absolute dive straight into insane troll logic.
Nazi lives don’t matter
Please look up the Paradox of Tolerance, also known as the Contract of Tolerance.
The paradox of tolerance doesn’t say shit about adopting the tactics of your perceived enemies (dehumanizing people to justify jailing them or worse) nor does it condone it. It also does not give one a pass to advocate violence against people one accuses of being part of the not-tolerated group.
Again, if the populace of Lemmy didn’t jump straight to “You’re a nazi/bootlicker” as a default method of disagreement, these kinds of comments could be taken differently.
Why are you defending the intolerant so hard?
You need to understand, this isn’t “adopting their tactics.” This is “if you do not tolerate others, you no longer are protected by the social contract.”
You can opt out if you wish, but that has to cut both ways, or your contract of tolerance is worthless.
Nothingburgers like concentration camps and denying people human rights because they’re brown? Fuck all the way off with your slippery slope horeshit.
Ok see? We’re not even talking about the same thing. And yet the word Nazi is in the undertone.
Yes actual Nazis are bad. (I can’t believe I have to fucking clarify that; jesus goddamned christ on rubber crutches 🤦♂️). But lemmy just throws that word around so cavalierly and indiscriminately it’s hard to even take it seriously anymore. Add on people dehumanizing anyone they personally think is a nazi, and that’s a recipe for not good.
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The discussion you’re chiming in on wasn’t even about this article; it was about one from a week ago. And now you’re butting in with the wrong context, making unfounded accusations, jumping to conclusions, and throwing out personal attacks… Keep up or keep out.
THIS YEAR there were folks in DC doing goddamn nazi salutes. And they have built a camp in FL. Are you, and maybe this is a big point… are you not american?
Are Marxists not Marxist because Marx is dead?
Yes, and? Those were not the people the post in question was about. You just unilaterally declared the subject of that post a nazi, decreed that they’re not human (dehumanizing), and that they deserved to be imprisoned because of that. When other commenters pointed out how hypocritical your take was, you doubled down.
The only thing the article mentioned about the guy was that he was a Trump voter. Yes, the nazi bar analogy exists but it’s also true that some people really are just that stupid or brainwashed or otherwise poisoned by the Kool-Aid. Wsa the guy a piece of shit person? Perhaps. Misinformed? Perhaps. An actual Nazi that deserves to be imprisoned or worse? That’s a wee bit of a dangerous stretch given that there was insufficient information to rationally arrive at that conclusion.
People who work for the nazi run camps are just contractors to you?
Fuck nazis.
I never said they don’t deserve human rights. I’ve said they are not human. They trade all humanity when they choose to be nazis. Why are you tolerant of nazis enough to not see this point as a repercussion of their own choices?
I never said they don’t deserve human rights. I’ve said they are not human.
That’s literally dehumanizing. I don’t know how you think there’s a difference. If you decree that someone is not human, then what else can you possibly call that?
Why are you tolerant of nazis enough…
I’m not. That’s just the conclusion you jumped to because I modded you for dehumanizing people in the same way the ones you have such strong opinions about have done. Again, yes, the paradox of tolerance exists, but it is not a blank check for that kind of behavior.
You cannot dehumanize that which is not human. THEY dehumanize themselves. Look, I am not going to budge from this mindset. They are physically in meatspace human. But their hearts, minds, souls, and intentions are no longer such. They simply cannot be trusted let alone given an inch.
Bottom line look you got a job to do. Calls for violence? Spams? Yadda yadda. Modding aint easy. But for all that is honest - stop pretending it is somehow important to remind people nazis are human too. “dehumanizing” is your thing, I get that. But look at your audiences and the replies you’ve “inspired” by your action.
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Yep they are some combination of ignorant, greedy, selfish, and cruel, but they are indeed human.
And despite what this administration wants us to think, Latinos are humans too and most are not criminals.
if I have been shown to toss a salute, support trump, pine for the good old blood and soil days, and or supply logistics to those doing those things, sure.
as in, the persons in the original article.
it is a choice to support them. a choice that makes you one of them.
america is the bad guy on the current era’s world stage.
stop making it difficult to call nazis out for being inhuman pieces of trash.
they can be healed! but not by threads online. direct community action and a sprinkling of leopards eating faces will turn some around back into being human again.
The reason is in the modlog ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Looking at the modlog, it was because the comment section was turning into a lynch mob, frothing at the mouth, and calling for more and more intense violence. Hiding behind “I’m totally joking, but…” isn’t the magic shield you think it is.
No, this isn’t Reddit, but that doesn’t mean we’re going to platform calls for violence and extremism.
Okay thanks I will take your word that those “violent comments” were there, since you hold all the evidence. I’m an adult and know if calls for violence go too far, I don’t need a mod to hide stuff from me and delete and lock comments without explanation.
They’re literally in the modlog - all you have to do is look.
Alright I appreciate this but on mobile this isn’t always a convenient option. Mod removals should link to this automatically and be more transparent for why comments were removed in the first place. All I see is aggressive tactics and in this day and age speech should be protected first before automatic censorship.
Mod removals should link to this automatically and be more transparent for why comments were removed in the first place
I linked to the modlog through Lemmy World’s instance of Tesseract. I’m the dev of that UI, and I agree with you that removal reasons should be more accessible.
A version or two ago I built in a feature to automatically resolve the removal reason and append it where the comment would be, right there in the comment section. If that’s disabled, there’s a button to take you to the modlog for that item.
If Tesseract isn’t your cup of tea, maybe ask the dev of your client to add a similar feature.
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Lmao they got me too
That review hit the nail on the head: Why do all these people feel like they have to hide if they aren’t doing anything wrong?
They know what they’re doing is wrong. They are doing it anyway. They want you to believe they are “just following orders” or “just following the money” but they know what they’re doing. They are not your neighbor, your family, your coworker. Maybe they were once, but they’ve sold their soul and they are not that anymore.
These people are irredeemable. They are the enemy of every good person on the planet, and the sooner everyone accepts that, the sooner we can do what is necessary to stop them. Fascism comes in all shapes and sizes and colors, it wears all sorts of flags and clothes, but it’s still fascism down to the roots, it will kill or convert everything it touches into a tool for its own use, and it will use those tools to destroy everything good and kind in the world. Nevermind the woke mind-virus, this is the fascist mind-virus and it’s absolutely real, we’ve seen it before, and we’ve seen what it can do.
We must fight it again. They want us to feel helpless and hopeless, but we’re not. We won last time, and we will win again. But be prepared to fight hard, because we’ll need to.
So they must believe they’re doing something good and altruistic then, right?
Those companies need black highlighters like the ones the government uses to highlight important information in documents
Scared like shit and violent as fuck. That’s like the bottom human condition. And as it’s like that, the scared part is still tolerable to POSes.
