• OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    It’s a sad but proven truth that the USA is not ready for a woman president.

    I voted for both Hillary and Kamala. But I’m open minded. Too many Americans simply are not.

    There is a clear prevailing consensus in the USA (not a correct or good consensus, but nevertheless it’s here) that woman should not be leaders. Even a large percentage of women believe in this.

    We NEED to change the consensus. How do we change the consensus? It’s clear that pushing the envelope by making a woman the presidential candidate has not worked. The patriarchal front is dug in too deeply for such a frontal assault.

    I believe the first woman president of the USA will be a woman VP who takes over after the president is removed, for whatever reason. A “side door” approach.

    I could be wrong. I hope I’m wrong. But I think AOC running for the presidency will put another Republican in the White House.

    • Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one
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      13 hours ago

      Of course the US is ready. Hillary won the popular vote. Don’t use idosynchroncies of our electoral collage be what determines what US is ready for.

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        Kamala actually won the popular vote too. By a fairly small margin, but she still got more actual votes than Trump. But then there’s the electoral college… Our constitutional dinosaur that has now failed the American people 3 times in the last 7 elections.

        Ok, apparently I’m working with out of date information. As late as January I was hearing reports that the popular vote was slightly in favor of Harris. But that appears to not be the case.

        Then again, “Elon Musk, he knows those computers so well…” Who fucking knows. Not like Republicans are above breaking the law.

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          Huh?

          If you’re saying the reported numbers are inaccurate due to election fraud, fine. Absent that, you are mistaken.

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        Don’t use idosynchroncies of our electoral collage be what determines what US is ready for.

        Those idiosyncrasies are what made a felon rapist clown fascist win over highly qualified women…twice.

        She won’t win. Enough people in the right geographical areas are simply not ready for a female president and will happily vote for a fascist instead to prevent it from happening.

        It’s not a fluke that of the 3 times Trump has run, he has only lost to a man.

        Welcome to America.

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      That’s how Canada got its first female PM, and it has not resulted in any more. I don’t really think it’s going to have the feminist effect you are hoping for.

      My honest opinion is that both Clinton and Harris lost to Trump because people wanted Trump. Biden won despite being a paper bag because people realized they hated trump. Then they forgot about it.

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      15 hours ago

      One of my conservative friends (also a woman) said the same thing: women shouldn’t be in power. Stunlocked me for a second.

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        That’s why conservative women exist. There’s a known phenomenon where the victims of abuse are often the most vociferous defenders of their abusers.

        Culturally you see this in things like the defenders of hazing but there’s plenty of science on the topic to back up the observation.

        The thing about that, however, is those votes aren’t something you were going to win, ever, and it’s not something you should chase.

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      She has a lot going against her, even if people don’t think there’s a patriarchy issue.

      1. She’s very active politically and very vocal. Immediate resistance from conservatives.

      2. She is no friend to AIPAC. She’ll lose a good bit of the Jewish vote

      3. Policy-wise, she’s decently progressive. She’ll be easily demonized by the right-owned media.

      4. Voter Suppression. Even if we get a fair election, as soon as the right loses, they’ll martial law up and claim fraud, and you better believe they’ll find what they’re looking for if they have to make it themselves.