Turns out the disposable nicotine delivery systems are, as suspected, worse than the real thing, according to a new study from researchers at UC Davis.
They’re worse in one particular way, which isn’t the most significant way that cigarettes cause harm. They’re not worse overall. Vaping has been a major public-health success story, and it’s odd to see people trying to discourage it with misleading headlines. The perfect is the enemy of the good here.
Just, tell me if i understand this correctly, please:
The part of cigarettes that makes you addicted is nicotine, and the psychological habit of “smoking one” as a social ritual.
However, nicotine is not really dangerous to your health. The smoke is what’s damaging your lungs. Smoke contains half-burnt chemicals, that are acidic and corrosive, and that damages your lungs.
Vaping uses (water) vapor instead of smoke, and since vapor is not as acidic or corrosive, it’s less dangerous for your health.
Vapes still make you addicted though, because they contain nicotine, and that’s why you have to buy them over-and-over again, which means you still have the economic disadvantage of spending significant money on them.
From what I understand your spot on except for the nicotine part. Nicotine on its own right from what I understand isn’t all too terrible for you, however having nicotine in ur airways keep ur lungs and throat from expelling contaminants from lungs via the cilia (hairs that push contaminants out of airways). So by the very nature of vaping or smoking, the nicotine in ur airways stops ur airways from clearing out the crap that’s bad for ur lungs (for example if u smoke weed and vape, the weed smoke that’s bad for u can’t get out and will cause more damage than if u didn’t vape). This is why when u stop vaping or smoking, after a few days to a week you tend to have coughing fits. This is ur Celia finally getting back to business and pushing nasty shit out of ur lungs after being suppressed for so long. This discovery is also why I finally quit vaping, as I quit smoking cigs for a healthier life but I was not achieving what I wanted by replacing it with vaping. Yes it’s better for you, but better is relative. It’s still bad for you and there’s no arguing that.
Yeah except smoking rates have increased since the invention of vapes. It if was strickly people smoking cigarettes swapping to vapes then maybe we could call it a success
I think people might smoke more in total because people are stressed out more?
I don’t have a study on this, but from my personal environment, i can attest that people seem to be more stressed-out, and more worried, about work and wages than 20 years ago. But i could be wrong here. Maybe it’s just that i’m getting older and paying more attention to these things now.
Anyways, “more stress” would explain why people smoke more. To many, it seems to have a stress-relieving functionality, at the cost of long-term health disadvantages.
I suspect it’s hopelessness. The people I saw start smoking young didn’t expect to hit 80 in any way that was desirable. Cancer, lung disease, heart attacks… those are future problems, and those who don’t believe themselves to have a future don’t care at best and are happy to go at worst.
The thing a lot of them didn’t get was that the years it takes are the ones coming soon, not the ones far off into the future.
I admit I don’t see people vaping as a major problem. The harm is not so severe that it overcomes my inclination to let people make their own choices. This is especially so when the harm is not intrinsic to the act but rather the result of contamination.
They’re also a worse pollutant. Policies that favor disposable vapes over refillable ones are a travesty but ultimately disposable vapes are far more profitable for big tobacco.
Tobacco / Nicotine lobbyist AI, right? You guys are making billions from all the addicts slowly killing themselves. As long as they stay alive long enough to turn a profit though.
They’re worse in one particular way, which isn’t the most significant way that cigarettes cause harm. They’re not worse overall. Vaping has been a major public-health success story, and it’s odd to see people trying to discourage it with misleading headlines. The perfect is the enemy of the good here.
Yeah, i agree with you.
Just, tell me if i understand this correctly, please:
From what I understand your spot on except for the nicotine part. Nicotine on its own right from what I understand isn’t all too terrible for you, however having nicotine in ur airways keep ur lungs and throat from expelling contaminants from lungs via the cilia (hairs that push contaminants out of airways). So by the very nature of vaping or smoking, the nicotine in ur airways stops ur airways from clearing out the crap that’s bad for ur lungs (for example if u smoke weed and vape, the weed smoke that’s bad for u can’t get out and will cause more damage than if u didn’t vape). This is why when u stop vaping or smoking, after a few days to a week you tend to have coughing fits. This is ur Celia finally getting back to business and pushing nasty shit out of ur lungs after being suppressed for so long. This discovery is also why I finally quit vaping, as I quit smoking cigs for a healthier life but I was not achieving what I wanted by replacing it with vaping. Yes it’s better for you, but better is relative. It’s still bad for you and there’s no arguing that.
Yeah except smoking rates have increased since the invention of vapes. It if was strickly people smoking cigarettes swapping to vapes then maybe we could call it a success
I think people might smoke more in total because people are stressed out more?
I don’t have a study on this, but from my personal environment, i can attest that people seem to be more stressed-out, and more worried, about work and wages than 20 years ago. But i could be wrong here. Maybe it’s just that i’m getting older and paying more attention to these things now.
Anyways, “more stress” would explain why people smoke more. To many, it seems to have a stress-relieving functionality, at the cost of long-term health disadvantages.
I suspect it’s hopelessness. The people I saw start smoking young didn’t expect to hit 80 in any way that was desirable. Cancer, lung disease, heart attacks… those are future problems, and those who don’t believe themselves to have a future don’t care at best and are happy to go at worst.
The thing a lot of them didn’t get was that the years it takes are the ones coming soon, not the ones far off into the future.
I admit I don’t see people vaping as a major problem. The harm is not so severe that it overcomes my inclination to let people make their own choices. This is especially so when the harm is not intrinsic to the act but rather the result of contamination.
You can always count on the tobacco companies to turn a useful tool into something evil.
You can always count on the
tobacco companiesmassive corporations to turn a useful tool into something evil.They’re also a worse pollutant. Policies that favor disposable vapes over refillable ones are a travesty but ultimately disposable vapes are far more profitable for big tobacco.
And they’re talking about cheap Chinese gas station vapes here. If you use quality coils, there won’t be lead at all.
WHO disapproves of electronic nicotine delivery systems.
https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/tobacco-e-cigarettes
Oh really, guess I’ll go back to cigarettes then.
WHO also disapproves of conventional cigarettes.
It’s best, if you stay away from both.
Given the findings of the study in this post, I’m not sure whether we can even still say whether one is better or worse than the other.
The one that combusts material is worse.
Tobacco / Nicotine lobbyist AI, right? You guys are making billions from all the addicts slowly killing themselves. As long as they stay alive long enough to turn a profit though.
Would you like a cupcake recipe?
I wouldn’t mind your favorite cupcake recipe
Unlike an AI, I don’t actually know how to make cupcakes.