• Lord Wiggle@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    This is the modern equivalent of Rage Against the Machine causing a mini earthquake in the Netherlands with Killing In The Name Of

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      2 days ago

      You’re actually onto something. There should be a pause for xx hours for events that could trigger false alarms

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      Can’t even use tasers, chains and knives? Boring

      But how do you want to ban moshing? Have loads of security guys join in the mosh pit to drag moshers out?

      If I cannot mosh, and I’m not allowed to sit on a lawn chair, what the fuck else am I supposed to do there?

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      My hardest concussion came from a dude coming out of nowhere with his head forward in a slayer pit. While I was in a dead sprint going against another dude that had agreed to do a run bump and was in a dead sprint with me. This other dude showed up and I took a temple shot from his forehead. My buddy said I stood up and didn’t fall over but you could see I was knocked out. Wildest shit ever. I can actually understand the ban. In the days before hand. Doing a wall of death was legit damage to an unprepared individual. I knocked peoples ribs out of place defending myself with my forearms. I broke a buddies leg

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        Saw one of those a few years back, after some teenager got pulled out of a pit at a larger show with a visibly-broken leg. Shit can get hairy sometimes, but it’s what we’re there for, I def don’t appreciate a blanket ruleset which aims to empower bouncers to kick out anyone for what’s supposed to be considered par for the course at a metal show.

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      I may not agree with moshing, but crowd surfers can get entirely fucked.

      The venue my (now) wife and I went to all the time when we were kids allowed both, and the only injuries is or our friends ever got was from crows surfers. My wife alone got kicked in the head at at least 4 different shows. It was so bad that at one point I ended up yeeting a surfer like a shotput 3 or 4 people farther forward to protect her from the 3rd hit of that night.

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        I’m mixed on crowd-surfing TBH, despite getting knocked pretty good a couple of times. It’s only been a problem for me if I manage to make it to the first five rows of people on an open floor. I knew that’s where the crowd surfers would wind up, and tried to keep my eyes peeled, but expected it was going to happen anyway. I do feel pretty concerned for anyone under 5’6" in a pit though, even if they’re confident, seeing as I’m much larger and have still gotten the shit knocked out of me quite a few times.

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        I am apparently the multiverse version of this guy. Can confirm.

        Moshing is voluntary and most injuries sustained are from willing participants.

        Crowd surfing is dangerous because there’s an entire show there people are watching. They’re not looking for some dickhead’s boot to come whizzing past their ear and into their partners head.

        It’s also no fun because there is an insane amount of non consensual contact. On both sides. I don’t want to touch your ass but if you’ve been lobbed in my direction I don’t always get to choose because I need to keep an off balance portion of 135 pounds with momentum in an overhead press or the person beside me will get crushed by a scared flying idiot.

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        I can’t be 100% sure, but I figure there’s some situations that security isn’t willing to put their asses on the line to put a stop to. Even a dozen of them working to stop a pit once it started would be wild to see, but have seen it tried at smaller venues with 1-2 of them pulling individual people out.

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        If bands wouldn’t stand for it, it would stop happening. Brass tacks, these fuckers played hundreds or maybe even thousands of show without this kind of pathetic collaring of the crowd. Give your money to Gwar, they’ll let your crowd surf, and spray you with fake blood and cum after decapitating an effigy of the current POTUS.

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          Yeah, not sure about that one. I work in the industry and sometimes these are last minute changes that no one gets told about. That or the host is worried about liability and will straight up cancel the show. Slayer is not as big as they once were, they’re in much less of a position to turn down gigs.

          I remember my own company blacklisted slipknot after they kept throwing drumsticks into the crowd and ended up hitting someone or another’s girlfriend in the face. Our company literally turned the lights off and stopped the show.

          That’s not what got them blacklisted though. The lead guy got pissed and decided to get blackout drunk and then piss in one of the cases containing stage lights

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          they’ll let your crowd surf, and spray you with fake blood and cum after decapitating an effigy of the current POTUS.

          wait…you specified the blood is fake, but not the cum? I’m in!

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            Maybe it is real, come to think of it? You could try logging onto to one of Sleazy P. Martini’s livestreams to ask him.

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      That’s been stated in festival rules for years. Warped tour in 2010 had huge banners saying no moshing off to the sides of the stages. It’s a liability thing

      Are they enforcing those declarations now?

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        More and more from what I understand. Saw some guy break his foot, trying to kick in the stadium’s glass door because he was too dumb to realize that there was no re-entry & he went to get something from his car. Stadium shows are fucking shit.

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      Whats bad is that list misses so much stuff that’s worse than a mosh pit.

      Like, have you ever see a venue after the crowd decides to have an impromptu orgy? Takes days to get the jizz out of the rafters

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        I don’t see guns on that list.

        I also don’t see cow heads. There’s no rule stopping you from slaughtering a cow, decapitating it, and then bringing the still blood dripping head of a cow. Not that anyone WOULD do that. But, ya know…there’s no rule.