cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/54271735
Hey guys,
Our dishwasher conked out (pump died, it was about 15 years old). I’ve already repaired this thing a couple times and it’s not worth it now.
Are any reputable brands around anymore? Aren’t they all owned by whirlpool?
I’ll pay the extra money if it means longevity. Budget probably $1200 or so.
Any recommendations?
I bought a Bosch 800 series 6 years ago and love it. Bosch is a bit different from American style dishwashers. It has a screen that needs to be cleaned at least once a week. Also the heatless drying is fantastic. Mine is old enough that it doesn’t have Wi-Fi with certain features locked behind a cloud based app, which I find appallingly idiotic.
Just saying: There is a HomeConnect Local Integration for HomeAssistant.
Other than that: Bosch/Siemens (same brand) is solid. My washing machine moved over 22.000km with me by now…over 15 years…and works like a charm.
You can get a replacement pump for ~$50 and install it yourself in like 15 minutes. I did that a few months ago with my dishwasher. I was blown away at how easy it was.
It’s probably worth it to do one more repair before you pitch it IMO.
As for brands, I’d avoid GE. That’s what I have, and it’s been enough trouble over the past 6 years that I was tempted to replace it last fall (but I’m still glad I powered through the repair – seriously, it was SO EASY!)
Yeah, this one parts are getting rare and I think a pump now is $300. Ive already fixed other things on it so im not sure its worth it. Plus it is a filter model so I have to clean it out all the time which is disgusting, and it doesnt dry hardly at all anymore which is annoying. And sometimes it just runs shitty and I jave to run it twice to get random weird grime off the dishes that it sprays out.
And if I have to remove it from its hole anyways, thats an ass ton of work, so im not putting it back in!
Fair enough. $300?! Yikes! For that amount you ought to be able to get a whole new dishwasher. Or maybe not, I’m not sure how much the tariffs have jacked up prices in that area.
Yeah too bad. Im looking to spend like 600 on a dishwasher that lasts ,I hope.
We were going to get a Bosch when ours needed replacing but we saw a floor model Viking and my wife decided that was the one.
It fucking suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.
The only dishwasher made by a high end manufacturer is COVE. Which is owned by Wolf/ Sub Zero.
Wolf is the absolute best in regards to cooking. I own a DF304 and love it.
Sub Zero is good, but requires some maintenance to keep in tip top shape.
Cove… Sucks at this point in time. It cleans well, but there have been some reliability issues with the brand.
Source: I live about 4 miles from the Wolf headquarters in Wisconsin and personally know several people on their engineering staff.
IMO Bosch is the only company in the world that makes dishwashers.
My parents have a Miele that works really well, but I’m not a fan of the racks and the way they designed the tines - nothing seems to load efficiently.
Bosch Bosch Bosch.
Based entirely on the vacuum we have I am convinced Miele is a fashion brand, not an appliance manufacturer.
Dishwasher, like most appliances, are getting too smart.
Many Bosch recommendations here, but beware that they are not above locking specific dishwasher features behind an app.
I won’t connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud - Mar 24, 2025
My honest advice is to go with the absolute simplest one you can find. I have a cheapo “Edgestar” washer from China that works without a hitch. It has 4 buttons. It has no wifi. It has a 3x 7-segment displays for communicating everything.
Dishwashers have been around, and mostly unchanged, for something like 120 years. No amount of fancy silicone trays, wash modes, microcontrollers, wifi, alerts, error modes, etc… can convince me that modern companies have actually thought of anything new in this space.
This turned into a rant.
TLDR: a cheap one
Is there no bosch version without that bullshit? I will absolutely not connect any appliance to the internet. Nor do I want a screen.
I got a Bosch a few years ago that has no app connectivity. Probably 4 or 5 years old at this point.
Everybody here are recommending Bosch and for good reason. I’m just going to drop in that both Bosch and Siemens are owned by the same parent company and are built in the same factories and are pretty much identical except some design and additional features.
I recommend their models with Zeolite. They are very quiet and efficient. I got one of them last year and I’m very happy with it.
Bosch, Meile
Only Bosch Benchmark series.
Miele makes some long lasting stuff. Or at least did, hard to say how it’s now because everything miele I own is so old.
Both German companies. The Meile units are likely made in Germany while the Bosch ones in the US are made in the US.
Bosch Benchmark are made in Germany.
Have Meile, love it.
I’ve had both. I like Bosch a little better for features and layout, but I’ve regretted neither.
Both just work. Both are fairly cheap and easy to fix either by yourself or with a service.
I told my buddy that I suggested Bosch or Meile because I literally don’t have to think about them.
I’ve heard good things about Bosch
Edit: or i guess more usefully, i have not heard anyone who has something bad to say about them.
Bosch advertising found this thread quick ;)
I do love their wipers and coil packs!
Mine is by company called Belkin, it’s cheap and cheerful and has zero network capabilities. I absolutely don’t want my dishwasher to be smart.
I had a Bosch I loved for years. It had a feature where it would slightly open the door at the end of the cycle so everything could air dry. It also had a red light that it would shine on the ground because it was so quiet that you couldn’t tell it was running. When we moved out, it was still running like it was brand new after five years of use in multi family home where we ran it twice a day every day.
Our new house has a basic GE, and it’s fine, I guess. There are a lot of other things that are higher priority than replacing a working dishwasher, but once it goes I’m replacing it with a Bosch.
Edit: That Bosch also got the dishes cleaner than anything else ever has, even with the cheap detergent.
To add to to info here, be sure to check Consumer Reports
Another pleased Bosch owner here. The thing has been solid for about 3 years now since we had to replace an Asko that died.
America is the only country with a dishwasher. in Britain we use our nuts
Bahaha
oi u having a giggle is u?
I am curious, how many plates do people with dishwashers normally own? I own 4 and don’t really have space for a dishwasher anyway, but sticking 4 plates in it seems wasteful. Most other things I have are hand wash only.
We have 4 large plates, 4 small plates, and 4 glass plates that only get used when our friend that keeps kosher comes to visit. We also have about 12 bowls across 2 styles, which get used faster than the large plates.
Oh my. I have over 25 plates probably. Probably over 30 if you count small ones
My childhood ones, my so’s childhood ones, and their fiesta ware ones we dont use a lot.
Definitely have over 40 cups.
Is this not normal 😅
More normal than having only 4 plates
Why would I buy so many more plates than I need?
Because I would run out of dishes in a day.
Haven’t you heard of dish stacking? Its all the rage.
You have childhood plates?
Haha yes because when we moved out we got all the parents old plates (and silverware) never really have bought new dishes. The fiestaware was used too. Probably a lot of our dishes are over 25 years old
No idea on brands, since I rent, but I will say: Try and find one with a macerator. The filter ones require more upkeep than I generally like doing, especially when there’s an alternative that doesn’t require it, and isn’t much more expensive (if it even is more expensive?). Landlord replaced our macerator one with a filter and it was a god awful experience
Macerators are not legal in many regions. Scrape your dishes.
Oh, I do, usually all that’s left on them is sauce by the end. It’s the slow accumulation of stuff that happens, and then us not being told about it, that was the problem.
Also OP did ask for America, and as far as I can tell they’re legal everywhere in the states, and Canada. Idk for Mexico, though. Didn’t know they were illegal in some places though
