The NRA is frantically running the numbers to see what will increase public fear, and thus sales figures for the gun companies, the most.
You’re going to see a timid pushback against the administration right now.
Why are they doing this? Is are they finally standing up with consistent values on at least this one idea? Are they making a firm stand that the constitution is beyond partisan politics? I don’t know… it may be something else.
The NRA released a statement only hours after the shooting, in it they blame Governor Tim Walz for his “radical extremist protests”.
Ironically, thanks to the 2A loonies we don’t really need them anymore. Can even rifle a barrel liner using a car battery and a bucket of salt water at this point.
Print, [redacted], repeat
is there a more in depth write up on that process? that’s pretty sweet
I’m pretty sure you can find videos on it on YouTube, but it essentially boils down to creating an array of copper wire in the shape of the rifling, inserting that into the barrel liner, then putting the whole thing into the bucket and hooking the wire up to electricity. This then slowly etches the rifling into the liner through electrolysis.
“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida … to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.
“Take the guns first, go through due process second,”
- Donald J Trump, Feb 28, 2018
Quick question…
Did they take the gun from the 34x convicted felon?
Why does he need a gun when he has an entire army and nukes? Apparently if you’re a felon you can’t have a pistol but it’s no issue being in charge of the most powerful army in the world and one of the biggest nuclear arsenals.
Did you miss the fact that he has (or at least had, prolly still has it though), a custom Orange Turnip gold plated gun?
That’s just ornamental. A trophy.
Interesting theory, I don’t know either way.
Can anyone out there confirm or deny whether the shitstain’s gold plated gun is real and functional, or just a useless mockup trophy?
He wouldn’t know how to load it even if was was functional.
nah, it’s because dumpy is immune to legal repercussions. He can do as he wishes.
It’s unconstitutional for a felon to be president, but here we are.It’s unconstitutional for a felon to be president, but here we are.
No it isn’t. You’d like to think it is, but it isn’t.
Why does he need a gun when he has an entire army
I don’t know, but they charged Maduro with possession of a machine gun, so ¯\(ツ)/¯
Sitting presidents cannot be indicted, he probably doesn’t care at all if he’s allowed to. Might be additional exception rules for members of the armed services, as well.
Trump is an east-coast elite real-estate lich, he doesn’t give a shit about guns at all. He’s always just paid people to carry them for him. Literally, he’s the consummate cartoon fatcat. That’s why he has zero qualms saying over and over he wants to take them or restrict them, he’s not a constitution thumping conservative, he’s just an old parody.
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In a twisted way, Trump is inadvertently trying hard to prove that more guns in the hands of untrained people with no background checks are a bad idea, something NRA was hoping to keep down. The cat is out of the bag now.
Anyway, fight girls.
I get the irony but if he managed to actually enact some form of gun control in this country it would be the hardest pill in the world for people like us to swallow who just can’t stand that fucking idiot.
As much as it has zero chance of ever happening, he pushed for a max 10% on credit card debt. It’d all but destroy some banks, and people that dont have excellent credit would largely have zero credit availability, but I think it’s a good idea.
Credit cards is a money trickling up system. Banks charge the sellers and give a rebate to their customers. Sellers increase their price to compensate for the credit card fees.
And then the poor are denied credit cards and pay the marked-up price on everything, or are given credit cards knowing they will fail to pay back on time at some point and then pay huge interests.
It would be better for most if that system disappeared or was at least severely trimmed down!I deliberately seek out businesses with a cash discount.
Agreed. Short term pain for long term gain is something we desperately need to change but today’s culture is too lost in the system to ever deal with it.
If it meant a better life for my daughter when she grows up I’d do what I had to. I’m doing what I can but it isn’t much.
insert “Broken clocks” idiom
He’d be doing the right thing but for the wrong reasons and in this case, for more authoritarian control
It’s a fun take, and Lemmy is a bit of an echo chamber, so let me enlighten you all on how that would kind of go:
The MAGA crowd is a combination of idiocy, brain damage, and then dark tetrad people.
They don’t care if their cult leader is hypocritical, they’ll defend everything he says, even if it hurts their own interests; they’ll cherry pick, gaslight, and deny basic facts.
When you see them from a point of clinical detachment, their behavior makes a kind of twisted sense. The mistake is the assumption that they’re just like you, and can be reasoned with or moved using empathy. Their worldview is fundamentally different, and typically only changes via direct experience: “leopards ate my face”. Sometimes not even then.
It’s downright infuriating at times because it reminds me of that antisemitism quote:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
Jean-Paul Sartre
Forgive me for being the ackshully guy in the thread, but it’s dark triad. A tetrad is comprised of four
Edit: guess I should have dug deeper. I didn’t know some add sadism to make it a tetrad. Thanks for teaching me something.
But weird to wait just a couple days after his support significantly fractured to claim his support can never fracture…
I’ll be glad when it does; the guy was elected twice.
I want to be wrong in this case
Very defeatist of you to suggest his base will always defend him, right after they appear to no longer be defending him
Only the most ardent propagandists are defending this killing. We have yet to see how it will play out, but you’re telling us to give up already?
No. I won’t give up as easily as you have. We will keep fighting
They will absolutely defend him. There was a clip that went viral a few weeks back from a podcast where leftist children chat politics with their MAGA parents and the seriously MAGA-pilled father said (paraphrasing here) that he’d be okay with his son getting shot and killed because of Trump because Trump must’ve had a good reason to order whatever killed his son.
You can also go to the leopardsatemyface community where you regularly see Trump supporters get fucked by Trump only to have them say they’ll still support Trump.
They’re also justifying the murders of American citizens with the “just obey. If you agitate them and you get killed that’s your fault”.
I’m not saying give up. I’m saying some parts of MAGA (hard to say how much) are so lost in the sauce I don’t know what Trump would have to do to get them to change their mind.
There will always be a percentage that will follow their cult leader. But as things get worse you do see more move away. If in the lepordsatemyface community you see people regretting their vote (only because it harmed them) and swearing to no longer support Trump
Only the most ardent propagandists are defending this killing.
Oh, sweet summer child
They want to deny you even the chance to die on your feet. How’s all that owning the libs feel now, huh conservatives? You love it when your daddy treads on you to tread on the people you don’t like. Every Republican voter is a traitor.
A federal agent did not kill a civilian. A Confederate soldier killed an American citizen.
This is how the general public finds out that the NRA = Nationalist Racist Association
One of the main purposes (arguably the primary purpose?) of the “well regulated militia” was to ensure that settlers could attack and exterminate American Indian tribes during westward expansion.
It’s almost like 2a was built of ppl who value 2a and people who value power and nobody cared to different the two, including the 2a crowd themselves.
Trump has been contentious among the pro gun crowd. He has supported red flag laws and instituted the bump stock ban. I don’t think this is him being inconsistent.
Tomorrow the morons will be lining up to turn in their guns.
So this seems relevant again
I really think you all aren’t properly focusing on the word “you” here. By “you” he means “not them”… So he essentially is saying “You libtards can’t have guns, because us Maga-idiots will shoot you if you do”.
Let me translate this:
You (the Outgroup, meaning leftists) can’t have guns. If You (the Outgroup) does this, We (the ingroup, the right) will kill you. You have no rights, We have no restrictions.
I highly doubt the US will ban guns. Firsy because there would be a lot of blowback. Secondly, one does not simply remove an amendment.
A constitution is just a piece of paper.
Did you know: In China, Freedom of Speech is actually in their constitution? But guess what actually happens in practice.
Did you know: In China, Freedom of Speech is actually in their constitution? But guess what actually happens in practice.
Did you know: In USA, Freedom of Speech is actually in their constitution? But guess what actually happens in practice.
JFC…you guys are still thinking China is the one with an oppressive government?
I was born in China so I think I have a right to talk about it
Oppressive government, yes absolutely.
The CCP tried to stop me from being born because I was the 2nd child in my faily and they forcibly sterilized my mother for violating one child policy.
Hukou System effectively being “internal border control” system that would deny you rights if your ancestry is rural.
I was born in Guangzhou City, same as my older brother, my parents worked in Guangzhou, but we were denied the right to be enrolled in their public schools (that’s after the one child policy fine has already been paid) because we inherited our parents Taishan (rural) Hukou so parents had to pay for some shitty privately-run school which was worse than public ones. 2nd class resident BS, just like the US’s system of exploiting undocumented immigrants, except PRC does this to its own citizens.
You can ackowledge multiple government’s oppression simultaneously. It’s not a competition of “which is more oppressive”, both can be at the same time.
