She’s not even looking where she’s pointing and yet she’s got her finger on the trigger.
Weapons handling score 0/10
Also her wrist is bent, which is something that makes me unreasonably angry whenever I see it, whether in real life or in movies/TV.
After all these years I just realized he also has his thumb behind 🤣
That shot is sure gonna look sooo cool… for .5 seconds
I have a few tiny guns like that. It would jam on the next shot from limp wristing it. She bought it because it was cute, has no idea how to use it.
For the life of me I cannot see why training requirements violate the 2A.
For the life of me I cannot see why training requirements violate the 2A.
I think in a perfect world, we should have some sort of impartial training. In the world we live in, I wouldn’t trust Trump’s administration to set the training requirements. I’m sure step 1 would involve turning over your social media accounts.
Not to mention the guy is holding the buttstock under his armpit and he’s got his other hand all the way up at the end of the rail guard…
Any time you interact with a 2A online they will swear to high heaven that they personally keep their guns locked in a childproof vault and make safety priority one.
GOP Keynote speakers for this violent stunt.
Been saying it for years now:
Perfect hypocrites.
Anyone left at this point is a full-on cultist, fully subsumed into the hivemind.
Hypocrisy is only a failing if you believe in fairness or justice.
That is a disgustingly true observation
Altemeyer described this pretty well in Right-Wing Authoritarianism. He argues that right-wing authoritarians value strength above all other traits, and the ability to disregard rules is a signifier of strength. Thus, leaders who cheat are idolized by RWAs.
Which makes any system other than ‘might makes right’ impossible to maintain. Rule breaking is destabilizing but to value rule breaking as an ideal is corruptive and destructive. Systems can’t work if the rules that govern them are not followed well enough. The only system left is one where rules of the mighty can only be enforced through might because everyone is trying to break the rules all the time and won’t exercise any self-control.
But realistically, these leaders don’t want a lawless world, they want a system that upholds rules that ensure their own success and safety. Breaking the rules is a temporary totem for them that only lasts as long as it takes to defy the current system and implement their own. But they require a mob of rule breaking fanatics to do it and that selfish mob still exists after the leaders take charge, so they created the very group that will make it impossible for them to have a their system at all, selfish people who think breaking the rules is a cultural ideal. And that, is why Russia is corrupt as fuck, and GOP America will be as well. Rules enforcement through might gets turned on the same mob they used to gain power. Draconian and brutal because might is the only thing that effectively contains this mob of selfishness. Reason, self control, communication, education, non of that will work.
Without rules we choose to follow, we cannot have a civilization that is anything but brutal and violent, corrupt and inherently fragile.
Yes we all know. Umfortunately the hypocrisy is completely invisible to them, so posts like this are a circlejerk at best.
It’s good to remind others not in the loop why the propaganda is nuts.
But yeah you’re not convincing MAGA losers of this. How an event makes them feel is more important than the facts and consistency it represents.
Uuuhmmmfortunately
Trump’s rhetoric was similar to that of Los Angeles-based federal prosecutor Bill Essayli, who tweeted over the weekend that, “If you approach law enforcement with a gun, there is a high likelihood they will be legally justified in shooting you.”
Have they seen the multiple angles of footage of this?
Man had a phone in one hand and the person he was helping up in the other.
Unless he had a third hand somewhere, I struggle to see where the fucking gun was.
They really be taking the old GOP doctrine to psychopathic levels just to own the Libs.
They’ll put whatever spin they can on this to justify the actions of their gestapo.
Jon Stewart says it best:
“They’re lying. We saw it. And that’s how brazen they lie when they know we’ve seen the truth. That’s how they lie when they know we know. Imagine how they lie when there’s no evidence to contradict them. And maybe that more than anything was why Alex Pretti reall was a threat. Because he was brandishing a weapon, a handheld aluminum, 1080p, 60 FPS, weapon of mass illumination. Because there is nothing more dangerous to a regime predicated on lies than witnesses who capture the truth.”
Yes, they have seen the videos. They are lying. They are liars.
*gasp!*
Besides which, law enforcement is not legally justified in shooting you damn near no matter what you do. A cop is not a court of law. A cop is not a jury and judge. A cop is not an executioner. Their legal jurisdiction extends to getting you in front of a courtroom and nothing else.
local nazi supporter on my Facebook basically says it’s his fault for being stupid because he should have announced that he had a gun when he began interacting with them
I’m sure that that would go over well
edit: anybody willing to approach ICE/CBP and loudly declare that they have a gun on them?
Didn’t work for Philando Castile, and that was just a road-side interaction with a “standard” cop. Still murdered.
Right now any idiot can buy a gun, that might not be true for long though
I’m not from the US and only have a vague understanding of the dynamics on the other side of the pond. But damn would it be funny if of all the things he does this would be his downfall. Like, there’s a million reasons not to let that guy near any public office… The pedophilia, the ridicule of disabled people, the dementia, the dismantling of democracy and its institutions, the treatment of women, the lying, you know this list could go on forever. But now there’s this one thing he says that any other country on earth regards as a reasonable and sensible thing to enforce, which is “people shouldn’t be allowed to carry guns around all the time” and suddenly he has a problem with important voter demographics. Like… this is a problem now? Unlike… *wildly gesturing at everything*…?
Guns are more important than human life in the USA. Don’t believe me? We have lost 1.5 million Americans to gun violence in the last thirty years. That is more American citizens than all wars we have fought COMBINED… Crickets
Trump could molest a child that looks like his daughter standing in the middle of Fifth Avenue, pull out a gun, and execute her on live television for all to see and not lose a voter.
Trump mentions something negative about guns and voters threaten to leave his camp. That about sums up the insanity we are dealing with.
He didn’t lose any support when he said “Take the gun first, due process second” in his first term, so this won’t hurt him either. The talking heads are up in arms about it, but this story will be dead in a week and his supporters will forget. All they care about is hurting brown people. It’s so dumb.
I saw an interview of some folks on the street in the south yesterday. “My 401k is doing good so im happy with how hes doing.”
Literally the most selfish people I’ve ever heard of. Unless you take from them in an obvious way, they just keep on truckin.
The US was all about immense narcissim from the very start, so it isn’t surprising. It’s disturbing and disgusting, but makes sense.
Guns are addictive…
They’re fun as fuck but if you spend enough time around them, you constantly aware of not having them when you don’t. Like, a gun in another room 20 feet away, and someone will got get the gun.
An explosion and fireball literally at your fingertips gives a huge boost of adrenaline and testorone on top of it, so it’s not just the mental "this is a great stick!’ base thinking but an actual physical addiction to the biochemicals that are released.
Same thing with huge v8 engines. There’s no lead but the exhaust fumes aren’t much better.
There’s a reason people are like they are, we might as well understand it. And the reasons why Americans latch on to guns and trucks is pretty easy to understand. It’s not something unique to Americans either, this is just where all the guns and v8s are
Hmmm. Reading this makes me think, maybe you shouldn’t have a gun.
I mulled over buying one for a few years and finally bought one a few weeks ago. It’s not a decision I took lightly. In my mind, the absolute best outcome of owning a firearm is that it is an absolute waste of a lot of money.
I mean those other things aren’t garunteed by what Americans call the bill of rights.
As I said,
I’m not from the US
so I act fully within my moral frame of reference to consider having that appended to a constitution as utterly insane.
But, you know, that Bill of Rights also includes amendments about e.g. requiring warrants to enter homes or due process and I guess there’s a whole bunch of laws about the stuff trump does I mentioned or didn’t mention above. But yeah, guns are obviously special or something.
I wish the internet would get over its collective obsession with pointing out conservative double standards. They don’t care that they have double standards. In fact its a power move to show that they’re above whatever petty moral code everyone else has tied themselves to
You’re correct, of course. But there are still a certain amount of Republican voters who like to pretend they have principles. Then there are also so-called centrists and politically disengaged folks. Sometimes they need to be reminded exactly who these charlatans are, so there can be no excuse for confusing one side of the political spectrum with the other.
Yeah, I came to the same understanding when I used to counter conspiracy nuts denying climate change and evolution etc.
You’ll never convince them they’re wrong or hypocrites… But people who stumble upon the thread that are not super critical thinkers will see the discussion and you can help them realise the person is actually full of shit.
Sometimes they can lie believably enough that people fall for it, and some of those people will snap out of it when they see the contradiction and logical fallacies.
They’ve beaten you into submission.
I’m not beaten, I’m suggesting alternate strategy
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Could never tell if she’s twacked out on a lot of adderall or some meth. Probably splitting hairs.
Well, they are wealthy, so probably adderall. But its basically the same thing
Fucking classic
What’s wild about the difference is these two are obviously not using their guns in a responsible manner (posing while holding their weapons poorly) but Mr. Pretti was (concealed and holstered because there was no apparent imminent threat to him).
But as usual, some people think Guns Used By Friends Are Good, Guns Used By Enemies Are Bad.
When will people realize that republicans do not support the first amendment? They support use of force to further their agenda. That’s it. Making gun ownership out to be a right wing thing is such a gigantic fuckup.
once fascists get full power, they will attempt to ban it totally throughout the country. mmuch like with russia, last thing putin wants is the populace with firearms.
Kyle rittenhouse
She’s holding her gun in such a weird way
They both are. It’s clear they have never fired a weapon before. They might shoot at someone, but they’re not hitting anything unless by accident. Which is the likely outcome for these chuckleheads.
I don’t know what the recoil is for whatever he’s holding but if it’s anything like an AK he’s losing a nipple.
Looks like an AR-15. I used to enjoy going to the range and doing safe, responsible shooting. I’m no gun expert, but I’ve gotten to shoot different guns that other people own and I have more experience with the AR-15 than any other gun. I never shot an AK-47 so I can’t compare. The AR has a good bit of a kick, but it’s nothing like a hunting rifle or a shotgun. If he pulled the trigger the way he’s holding it now he’d have absolutely zero chance of controlling it, you do want that thing planted into your shoulder. It’s also possible it’s the .22 caliber version of the AR, if that’s the case then he’d be fine, those are like shooting a BB gun, although from what little I can see of the end of the barrel it looks too big to be a .22
She’d smack herself right in the face if she pulled the trigger on her handgun. Couple of clowns right there.
True, that is actually brandishing, but I don’t think anybody really thought that helping a woman off of the ground while never touching or showing off your gun is brandishing.
For conservatives, words don’t have meanings anymore. If a word sounds like it might have a negative connotation, then it is a word that they use to describe any opposition. They don’t need to bother waiting to see what actually happened. The important thing for conservatives is to say the bad-sounding word first. Nobody has ever held them to account for lying.
For conservatives, words don’t have meanings anymore.
They never really did, I think what allowed them to start breaking through out of that prison of social pressure was when we all stopped socializing and connecting. They started finding they could get a form of social support in atomized realms, while the rest of us just said “let them stay over there, we can’t ban them all, at least there they’re contained.”
I really want to ask them back in those early days when they were debating banning forums and subreddits related to sexism and racism, if they think “containment” is different from “empowerment” now.
Those are the kind of gun owners we don’t need.
