One that always annoyed me is when it is around the holidays, when stores advertise gifts for men. They always assume a guy is into toilet humor, beer humor, assuming they’re a lumberjack who needs to survive out in the wilderness, are into bbq-ing all of the time so gotta have those available all year around for some reason.

Even when I used to have identified myself as a guy, I never once fit into any of those traits. Just because guys grow beards, doesn’t always mean they’re chopping wood somewhere and always wearing plaid.

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    Guys that have adhd, autism, or just overall not as social are assumed to be perverts, sexists, and rapists.

    Girls have hobbies and lives and do not constantly think or talk about men. That one is more of a gripe with “male authors writing women” thing.

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    I would extend that to pretty much all gendered advertisement. Especially for kids, the way toys are advertised in such a gendered way does quite a bit of harm to those who don’t neatly fit into the stereotypes.

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      The toys situation annoys me so much more now that I am a parent. Also it does not matter how hard you try to avoid certain things, we keep getting gifted clothes that would turn our daughter into a free walking advert for Disney princesses and our son into a truck and heavy machinery enthusiast.

      Which, there wouldn’t necessarily be anything wrong with if they were into that to begin with, but that’s really not the case. The push is unreal.

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      Can we all appreciate for a moment that while gendered toy aisles we’re dominating the scene, Nintendo opted to target boys.

      Also I’m very, very curious what the gaming scene would look like through the ages if they’d started with girls. Are fighting/racing games actually more fun or have they just become imprinted onto our psyche?

      Oh for a quick shot of Rick’s portal gun to find out.

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    I used to teach community college sociology. One of my students told me “it would be gay” to be kind with his 4 year old son.

    I often wonder how that kid turned out. Not good I imagine.

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    Marketing people prey on insecure people. It’s not just guys. I had a girlfriend who would spend a fortune… Not even kidding on hair products, cremes, you name it. She was always jealous of my hair and skin and i always told her that i literally make my own soap and don’t care about products. But on Instagram… Well, then just buy stuff from influencers i guess.

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      Oh this hits so close to home. She does not spend that much but also not little. Does a 20 minute routine every night and morning with like 5 different products.

      Then goes and tells me she is jealous of my skin. I almost never wash my face directly even under the shower I just use water. And it’s somehow so much better than hers.

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        I think that’s the issue. Letting the body take care of itself with its natural oils and just cleaning it with pure water is pretty good I think. Could do with a once in a while light scrub to get bacteria out of course, couple times a week maybe.

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          Could do but I never did and have not really had any issues. She is constantly nagging me that I need to do skincare but I just cannot be bothered to do it for no gain. I do sometimes moisturise but that is it.

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            Definitely don’t start anything, no. If your skin is healthy you need to tell her that starting now with a bunch of chemicals that the skin isn’t used to will more likely do damage than good if anything.

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              Ive recently started bathing every day because my toddler insists I get in the bath with her. I’m more rash than man until my system gets used to it.

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                I’m not sure you should be bathing your toddler every day? 😳 How come so often?

                Our kids bathe once a week or so, depending on necessity. But at least once a week. I did too at their age, and they don’t smell or have any hygiene issues, just as I didn’t.

                Their hands, arms, and feet [edit: and face] get dirty more than the rest of their bodies, so those get washed more frequently, but in isolation.

                Leave something for the immune system to practice on, I guess. 😅

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    Most, if not all of them, should just die to be honest. But the one that is targeted at me and annoys me most at the moment is the following.

    Where I currently live, there seems to be an assumption that if you are a man, you’re going to be a deadbeat parent.

    The bar is in absolute hell to be considered a “good dad”. Change nappies? You’re so “hands on”. Spend time with your kids minding your own business? Mums out of the blue coming to tell you “you’re doing great”, with optional condescension. Thanks, I didn’t ask. Or conversely if my child is crying, get offered help insistently, because yeah, you must know better than my sorry man ass, even though you only met my child 5 seconds ago.

    When my partner is present, any questions from doctors or childminders about our children are by default asked to her, and if I don’t (repeatedly) chip in, I don’t even get a look.

    No, I’m not “babysitting” to give my wife a rest, I’m enjoying spending time with my children. No, I don’t feel emasculated having my baby in a carrier/sling or pushing a buggy. Also no, I don’t need to be advertised “manly” looking dad gear (you know the one, looks like you’re cosplaying a spec ops soldier).

    This seems to be getting better as my children are getting older but during the baby phase it was absolutely mind blowing how I felt I either had to assert my presence quite a bit, or paradoxically get infinite praise for doing the bare minimum.

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      Tbf, this is not super local specific necessarily. I definitely pass judgement in fellow coworker dads who show up to work a week after they have their new born. When I chat with them about how nights are going and they say “oh fine, I just sleep in the basement so the baby doesn’t wake me” I want to throttle their weak asses.

      Much of it is definitely cultural. Its made worse that we work at a company that offers dads two months full pay and live in a country with employment insurance benefits for parents that can be split over 18 months.

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        Yeah, by “where I live” I meant the country I am currently in. I am not saying there is no sexism where I am from, far from it, but from what little I can tell, the specifics that I am describing seem to be more prevalent in English speaking countries. Sexism expresses in different ways, that’s definitely a culture thing.

        And yes, here in the UK, fathers are only entitled to two weeks paternity leave which only makes things worse. I was very lucky to be working for a company which had a great parental leave policy when both my children were born (3 months full pay) so I could do my part and bond with my children at a very early age. I remember after two weeks thinking “how do fathers even go back to work at that stage?”. And that’s not even taking into account a difficult birth, like needing a c-section, and the mum needing at least 6 weeks to start being able to safely do anything remotely straining again.

        It’s just insane.

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      the bar really is that low, tbf. congratulations you are in the top 0.1% of parents/dads

      lot of people out there that really shouldn’t be having kids because they’re barely aware of themselves let alone other people

      edit/crossing out dads

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        congratulations you are in the top 0.1% of parents/dads

        This right here is what this whole question is directed at.

        No, doing the basics does not put them in the “top 0.1% of dads,” like it’s some sort of anomaly (they might be, but it’s not because they changed diapers). Almost every dad I know is heavily involved in their kids lives, including when they are babies. I’m never the only dad at the park or the birthday party, and everything else. I have had many discussions with other guys about taking care of our babies, and it is very clear that it is a shared responsibility.

        Do more men bail on their kids or dump responsibility on their spouse than women? Sure. Is that currently the common thing, or what 99.9% of men do? Absolutely not.

        Stop perpetuating this stereotype, especially in a post about negative stereotypes.

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          fair enough, really meant that as comment towards parents as a whole. ime kids are basically accessories to many people, like the dog they don’t bother training or the spouse they never communicate with.

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    I’ve noticed that when you want a question answered it’s best to put your own answer in a comment and let the post only be describing or clarifying the question. When you put a question and your answer together in the post, the question reads more rhetorical since you’ve already given “the answer”, and your answer will be what people discuss rather than giving their own answers.

    My sexist stereotype that needs to stop is that men are not good with kids, or unsafe.

    I want to see more men playing with kids, being handed strangers kids to hold at gatherings, men hugging and cuddling kids. It’s no more suspicious or odd for a man to enjoy and appreciate and be caring with children (not just his own) than it is for a woman.

    I have no qualms asking a strange child if they want help if I see them struggling (seeming lost, trying to reach something, scared of the escalator, whatever), and I want men to feel equally comfortable stepping in without being afraid of what people might think they’re up to… Because people need to stop thinking men are up to something when they are clearly trying to have a positive impact.

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      This is one thing that I’m pretty self conscious about. I don’t know if it’s because I’ve spent a lot of time on the internet and see lots of actual creeps on there but it’s often on my mind in public to try not to come off as a creep. The only exception is with my nieces or nephew, I’ll be dammed if someone’s going to accuse me of something because I’m playing with them or keeping an eye on them in public, but outside of that, I’m a single guy in his 30s and that don’t look good, so I keep to myself.

      Actually, as I was typing this out I remembered the guy that I saw while I was with my nieces and their parents waiting for some food at a fast food place a few months back. The place was busy so we were all there for a while and this old guy comes up nearby, waits for a while, then complains out loud to us. Ok, that’s normal, but then he just hangs out for a while close to the kids. After we get the last of our food as the youngest is getting off of a stool, he reaches out to help her off, holding her under the arms. That type of situation is exactly what I try to avoid. Maybe he was harmless and thought she needed a hand, that for some reason the three adults she knew couldn’t provide, but keep your hands off the kid, we don’t know you. (She was not struggling to get off the stool)

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      As a teenager I never wore dresses, skirts or nail polish because I didn’t want to be seen as a girly girl. I was into science and books and that didn’t seem to fit the vibes.

      I’m glad that I figured out in my twenties that being in a male-dominated tech field doesn’t require you to dress masculine or wear nerd shirts. If you’re into that, that’s great, but it’s also okay to wear dresses or put on make up if you work as an engineer or a software developer.

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      Woman does normal thing dressed as woman.

      “OMFG do we really to sexualize normal thing?!?”

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        To be fair, she did explicitly refer to the bimbo aesthetic. That’s not just dressing “like a woman”, it’s a pretty objectively sexualized aesthetic. Not that what you’re saying doesn’t also happen.

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        I mean, to be fair, a lot of women’s clothing is geared to be sexually attractive. Just because it’s been normalized doesn’t make it untrue. Something can be normal and sexualized.

        Or do you think there’s a practical, unsexy benefit of women’s pants having tinyass pockets and being skin tight?

        Not that I agree with their complaints. I’m totally fine with people dressing how they want, unless it’s dragging their bare unwiped ass all over the furniture.

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          I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wearing clothes that fit well and makes you look good, but it will be judged.

          On the internet in general and specifically on YouTube, it’s difficult for handsome people to do anything at all without being accused of doing normal stuff while being attractive just to increase monetization.

          It’s a weird kind of gate keeping, but I do understand it. There are definitely channels that only exist for that reason, and it might be annoying to see your favorite topic being used by someone who ought to be on OnlyFans instead. However, it doesn’t actually take anything away from anyone, so it’s really just a ‘crabs in a bucket’ mentality, where nobody are allowed to stand out.

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            Yea, agreed. Anyone complaining about something being too attractive is really just advertizing their own insecurity and/or lack of self control.

            Who the fuck wants an ugly environment?!

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    That men always want sex with anyone at any time, and if they don’t that means there’s something wrong with them.

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      I’m on the far end of this spectrum, and I’d argue that there’s definitely something wrong with me, but it’s a curious issue in the sense that it only affects me negatively when someone else is bothered by it. You don’t really miss sex when you have no desire for it. It’s actually kind of a superpower too at times. I feel more free than many of my peers whose minds are constantly occupied with chasing sex.

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        I didn’t think I could ever be like this until I took a long break and realized, “Uh oh. This is working WAY TOO WELL.” Now I’m like 5-6 years in and I used to wonder how I’d go even a month or two without sex.

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        As desires go, it certainly takes up an awful lot of time and energy that can be put to other uses.

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    Meat. I’m vegetarian, my wife is not. When we go out to eat, if she orders meat, there’s a good chance the meat dish will get put in front of me.

    We were at a Christmas market on the weekend, and one booth had a sign that said “Make your husband happy”, and it was of course a butcher stand.

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    The market has determined the gender stereotypes that are most profitable and insecure people increasingly take on those qualities as parts of their personality.

    All other interests are niche and require someone to establish a special interest club to attract like-minded folks.