Point being that you can boycott US products and still have Bourbon “style” whisky. Kind of like how some distilleries outside Scotland make Scotch style whisky, which is often very very good.
You’re the one calling appropriation a “genuine contribution” if you knew anything about the history of whiskey and bourbon, you wouldn’t be making that claim.
I’m no expert on alcohol, but when I went to the distillery in Bourbon County, they tell it was made by accident originally. Basically the distillery burned down, and they tried reusing the burnt barrels only to find that the whiskey had a pleasant flavor?
What’s appropriation there? The locals just brought the whiskey recipe with them when they hopped the pond.
They distinctly changed the recipe. It’s no different than Champagne and Prosecco and Sparkling Wine. You can make the stuff, it just isn’t called Bourbon. Why is it appropriation to use the same damn rules here that you already had in Europe?
Depending on what they are making, sometimes they do. Re-charing can only go so far and you lose a lot of the elements in the oak when you do. Some casks are one time use only for what they want to make.
3-4 uses, than they ship them to Scotland to be broken down for scotch.
I worked at a distillery as a contractor. Orientations include history as well as all the products they make. Also just talking with the higher ups gets some pretty useless neat information.
A lot of people don’t have the money to afford it anymore. Cannabis is a lot cheaper especially if you go the route of things like vapes versus flower.
Well, let’s be honest. American whiskey isn’t very popular outside of NA. It’s a mixer whisky but only for those that want a whiskey and Coke. There’s just far better done elsewhere on the planet.
But an American whiskey is for when people feel like that Hollywood western Americana vibe. It’s a novelty.
Even in USA media, the JD bottle is always used in the “hit rock bottom” scene.
I feel like you’re kind of proving my point here. Looking at the dollars and sales.
So what percentage of that was the really good whiskey distilleries most people haven’t even heard of vs the big ones that supply the world with the novelty of American whiskey?
Yeah I know. It’s the same with beers too. But you gotta find the places and directly order them or ask a distributor in the country to grab them. It’s not something you can just grab from the shelf at the local store like other whisky countries.
American Whiskey was a very popular export, especially to Canada.
And they have become very good at boycotting US goods. Especially when there are plenty of alternatives.
Canada sends their regards. We fight fascism here, we don’t drink it.
Yeah, I didn’t love bourbon before, but my brother in law is a huge fan and hasn’t bought any.
And he buys it but also follows and has all of us enter the lcbo lotteries to buy bourbons.
I do love bourbon. I think it’s one of the very few genuine contributions to world cuisine from the USA.
And I will never drink another drop of it.
There’s nothing unique about bourbon. Other places can distill it, just not market it as such.
There’s plenty of over 50% corn mash, and aged in brand new oak barrels, type “whiskeys” out there.
Okanagan Spirits makes “BRBN Bourbon-style whisky”. Bourbon (as you say) is a protected designation of origin product, meaning that it has to be made in the US. It’s not on the PDO list on Wikipedia though, so it appears it is a separate designation, same idea though.
Point being that you can boycott US products and still have Bourbon “style” whisky. Kind of like how some distilleries outside Scotland make Scotch style whisky, which is often very very good.
Wow! It’s like I didn’t know anything about liquor and you just enlightened me! THANK YOU OH SO MUCH KIND SIR!
Oh, and … buh-bye.
You’re the one calling appropriation a “genuine contribution” if you knew anything about the history of whiskey and bourbon, you wouldn’t be making that claim.
I’m no expert on alcohol, but when I went to the distillery in Bourbon County, they tell it was made by accident originally. Basically the distillery burned down, and they tried reusing the burnt barrels only to find that the whiskey had a pleasant flavor?
What’s appropriation there? The locals just brought the whiskey recipe with them when they hopped the pond.
And then made legislation that it can only be made across the pond and no longer where the recipes originated from.
They distinctly changed the recipe. It’s no different than Champagne and Prosecco and Sparkling Wine. You can make the stuff, it just isn’t called Bourbon. Why is it appropriation to use the same damn rules here that you already had in Europe?
You’re a fucking shithead
A real asshole. An excellent account to block.
I do worry about what happens when cheap American oak ex bourbon casks stop getting sent to Scotland…
Canada buys them for their whiskey, doesn’t need to be new.
Depending on what they are making, sometimes they do. Re-charing can only go so far and you lose a lot of the elements in the oak when you do. Some casks are one time use only for what they want to make.
3-4 uses, than they ship them to Scotland to be broken down for scotch.
I worked at a distillery as a contractor. Orientations include history as well as all the products they make. Also just talking with the higher ups gets some pretty useless neat information.
Cannabis is a factor. Alcohol consumption is down for the whole US.
A lot of people don’t have the money to afford it anymore. Cannabis is a lot cheaper especially if you go the route of things like vapes versus flower.
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Well, let’s be honest. American whiskey isn’t very popular outside of NA. It’s a mixer whisky but only for those that want a whiskey and Coke. There’s just far better done elsewhere on the planet.
But an American whiskey is for when people feel like that Hollywood western Americana vibe. It’s a novelty.
Even in USA media, the JD bottle is always used in the “hit rock bottom” scene.
JD is far from top shelf US whiskey though.
In 2023 $1.8 billion of whiskey was exported to countries outside North America – that number is second only to the UK. You can look at the numbers (and impacts of tariffs) here
Yes, let’s judge every other whisky producing country by the mass produced garbage that makes up the bulk of their exports too.
I feel like you’re kind of proving my point here. Looking at the dollars and sales.
So what percentage of that was the really good whiskey distilleries most people haven’t even heard of vs the big ones that supply the world with the novelty of American whiskey?
Oh dude. That stuff is barely whiskey. There’s much better American stuff out there.
Yeah I know. It’s the same with beers too. But you gotta find the places and directly order them or ask a distributor in the country to grab them. It’s not something you can just grab from the shelf at the local store like other whisky countries.