US forces have seized an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, in a major escalation of Donald Trump’s four-month pressure campaign against the South American country’s dictator, Nicolás Maduro.

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    9 hours ago

    USA turns into Taliban country. Taliban originaly is “political and militant organization with an ideology comprising elements of the Deobandi movement of Islamic fundamentalism and Pashtun nationalism”, now is just “political and militant organization with an ideology comprising elements of the MAGA movement of Evangelical fundamentalism and WASP nationalism”

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    9 hours ago

    Time to determine on who’s command this was done, and follow down the complete chain to the bottom.

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      Why? The one giving the order on the top is ultimately responsible. Insubordination against king Donald of Orange the First will probably get you court martialed and hanged…

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        not the point, though. The Cowards are using him as a shield. They have been for years. They are every bit as much to blame as he is (and he absolutely is to blame, just not the only one). Once this all falls apart they will say it was all his idea and blame him for everything, to avoid criminal repercussions. People will be so happy to see the king fall that they will give all of The Cowards immunity just to get rid of him, and the cycle will continue.

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    So who had written “blatent piracy” on his trump bingo card at the beginning of the year? He took almost to the very end to also make you cross out this, but he did.

    So, “nuclear test und an uninhabited island” next?

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      So, “nuclear test und an uninhibited island” next?

      Un inhabited?

      Edit: apparently you can’t have partial words italicized.

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      Boarding ships & enforcing sanctions is not necessarily a bad thing, albeit im missing details on this specific case.

      France & Finland have both done this to shadow fleet tankers in recent time as well.

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        It’s always best to make comments like this when you are missing details. /s

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          I only said that becasue we’re ALL missing context. The shadow fleet tankers siezed by Europe happened months ago and we have a lot more context. But I left my comment intentionally open-ended incase more context comes out later.

          For now, all we know is the Trump administration seized a shadow fleet tanker that was sanctioned by the Biden administration, thereby inforcing decisions made by Biden. Europe has done the same. If you would like to add some meaningful context then please do, it’s an interesting topic.

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            Yes, indeed, it’s open ended and on the surface it is consistent with a plausible follow through on existing decision.

            Though the prospect of suspiciously selective enforcement comes to mind, in the midst of this very specific scenario they decide to execute a seizure that is conveniently adjacent to the boat strike operations.

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          wtf? Finland & France siezed Russian shadow fleet tankers, an aggressive act against the Putin regime. This vessel is also related to the axis shadow fleet.

          Supporting these shadow fleet oil tankers breaking sanctions & financing illegal wars is literally pro-russian. Seizing them is literally an act of aggression AGAINST Russia. You have it completely backwards.

          And this tanker was anyway sanctioned by Biden, Trump is now enforcing the biden administration’s sanctions.

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              You didn’t address anything I said. Enforcing Biden’s sanctions against Iran/Russia/NK is not pushing anyone further from the EU. The EU has literally sanctioned the Maduro government, and Norway is currently protecting the Venezuelan opposition party.

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    Welcome to the sixteenth century! When Queen Elizabeth couldn’t afford to go to war against Spain so created ‘letters of marque’ which legalised piracy against Spain and its empire. Single handedly created the pirate economy.

    Then, welcome to the eighteenth century, when america created the fiction of the Barbary Corsairs to legalise american piracy of the atlantic trade.

    Isnt it Mark Twain who states that history rhymes?

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      You all are sleep walking into another forever war nobody wants. I implore everyone to read your own and Latin American history from the last 50 years. It’s not taught.

      https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/901/The-School-of-the-AmericasMilitary-Training-and (Ask Anna for a copy.)

      Venezuela

      Name: Army Commander in Chief Efrain Vasquez and General Ramirez Poveda

      Country: Venezuela

      Dates/courses: Attended the SOA in 1988; 1972

      Info: Both Vasquez and Poveda helped to lead a failed coup in Venezuela in April of 2002, despite supposedly receiving training at the SOA that encourages respect for democracy and civilian governments. Otto Reich, then Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs, shared his support for the coup and a new government, and in the same year was appointed as a WHINSEC Board of Visitor member to “oversee” democracy and human rights curriculum, as well as operations at the school. Reich met with these SOA graduates prior to the coup and advised business leader Pedro Carmona, who subsequently seized the presidency.

      Name: General Ramon Davila Guillen

      Country: Venezuela

      Dates/courses: Attended the SOA in 1967 for Irregular Warfare training

      Info: General Guillen was indicted in November 1996 in connection with a shipment of one ton of cocaine into Miami in 1990, which he says was authorized by the CIA in an effort to catch drug dealers. In 1993, the CIA called the shipment “a regrettable incident” and dismissed the CIA agent involved. (CAP, 9/21/97)

      https://soaw.org/notorious-soa-graduates

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      Organize against what, exactly?

      The way I see it, it’s two assholes fighting. Both suck and are responsible of crisis and death of their own country people. Let them fight, then. Though I know Venezuela doesn’t stand a chance, unfortunately.

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    I hate trump as anyone else here but reading into this it looks like an absolutely legal and normal procedure?

    The ship in question named Skipper was already sanctioned since 2022 for transporting Iranian oil to fund Hezbolah. So minus conflict escalation with Venezuela this seems like a good thing? Hezbolah is an incredibly evil terrorist organization and cutting off it’s funding is good.

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      How it is legal to seize a ship from another country when it isn’t even close to your coast? Are you so brainwashed you can call this normal?

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        I’m not a lawyer but afaik the sanctioned ships are treated kinda like “legal piracy” as country can board it even in international waters if it knows it’s performing a sanctioned operation like transferring goods to a place it’s not allowed to or the ship is stateless or sneaky (no transponder etc).

        At the end of the day these legalities are purely made up to satisfy treaties rather than ethics or rationality so it’s silly to try to look for rational meaning here.

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      Sanctioned by the US. This means the ship is free to trade with other countries. It wasn’t heading to the US. This is an illegal act.

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        That’s not how these types sanctions work though. It’s much more broad than “you can’t pass our waters” and it’s perfectly legal to board sanctioned ships in international waters.

        AFAIK this is legal though I care much more about ethics than legalities as citizen of neither of these countries.

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      “Hezbolah is an incredibly evil terrorist organization”

      Based on? What metric are you using for this? Or do we kill people based on your genocidal white vibes?

      Or is it “that’s what I hear on CNN and Fox who tell me that Saddam’s WMD’s are about to be definitely foubd any second now?”

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      I’m not typically a betting man, but I would be willing to go all in on that not being the reason they seized the ship.

      This administration tends to do what comes natural to them first (do illegal shit) and then search for an excuse later for why it was necessary when confronted about it.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if they eventually came to the same conclusion that you did, but only after Trump or one of his stooges brags about doing it for other reasons.

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        I feel like people are taking the bait here in siding with Iran and Hezbolah just to spite Trump. Both things can be bad and it’s kinda important to be woke to these games rather than blindly oppose everything.

        People keep underestimating Trump and his stooges. Sure they are stupid but they do have a plan and they do scheme.

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    Well at least we know the real reason for the murders now. Why it it always the most greedy, predictable cause?

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      Dude has been saying for 20 years that we should’ve stolen Iraq’s oil. Yet somehow everyone acts surprised when he does pretty predictable things like this.