The US was taking over the occupation of Korea from the Japanese. The USSR wanted the Koreans to govern themselves and be self-sufficient enough to not become vassal states of the USA which the USA would use to invade and nuke the USSR.

It’s not just a both sides wanted to control Korea thing. That’s not accurate

Apologies for missing the sarcasm. Yes, the USSR did engage, but from a position of weakness. They had no motivation to divide Korea but they didn’t have the will or strength to resist the beligerence of the US.

Wow. Try inventing a partition line like Yosemite Sam and saying “I dares ya ta cross this line” and when the Korean people tried to push the racist American colonizers out of their country. Try forced them to lives in caves because of the amount of napalm they dropped. Try bombed every single building to the point where bombers were sent out and and there was nothing left to destroy.

There was no North/South division before the US created it, and they created it because they wanted to nuke China.

It is absolutely driving away North Korea. You need to read more. North Korea has never and will never Trust the USA after what we did to them.

Taiwan is a province of China.

The Taiwan government today is relying on strategic ambiguity, neither saying it is an independent country nor saying it is part of China. However, the KMT which prosecuted the White Terror under the protection of US and UK warships claimed the mainland for decades.

Sorry, that’s just now how politics works anywhere. Do you consider with political party “ruled” which states or cities or islands in the US? When the Confederacy seceded from the Union did that suddenly mean they were no longer legitimately part of the US?

Taiwan was part of China, there was a civil war. The losers of the war retreated to Taiwan, and then the US and UK sent warships to block the victors from bringing the losers to justice. Taiwan at that point was still part of China, the country, but now had its own fascist government prosecuting the White Terror and killing hundreds of thousands of people while the US and UK protected them, and then integrated them into the global economy. At no point did Taiwan secede, at no point did the concept of the nation of China have its borders redrawn, nor did the nation of China declare a separation between the island the mainland.

Hell, even the fascist mass murderers on Taiwan said it - there is only one China and Taiwan is an island province of that country. And world leaders agree that’s the case.

Nixon’s war on drugs was for voter disenfranchisement, not distraction.

The war in Vietnam was for the US’s absolutely rabid anti-communism and racist yellow peril

Really? So the invasions by Napoleon, by the WW1 victors, and by the Third Reich were all just Russia being a pain?

They lost a few percentage points of total refining capacity.

The strikes Ukraine made did disrupt a large percentage of the refineries, that’s true. But the strikes didn’t do a lot of damage and the refineries were brought back onine shortly.

The total annual production of those refineries was affected. But only something like 3% - 6%.

Wow. Fully on victim blaming? Stop letting billionaires influence me? Stop them from influencing my family and friends? That’s your strategy? And you call me delusional?

Perhaps you haven’t seen the Princeton study that demonstrated, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that popular opinion has absolutely no influence on legislation in America. That popular and unpopular legislation passes at the exact same rate, meaning that popularity is not a factor in legislation. They went further to explore what DID have an effect on legislation. Do you know what they found? Legislation passing was directly correlated to the popularity of a law with the ultra minority (>1%) of wealthy individuals in the country.

That’s a very direct tell. The people are not clamoring for things the billionaires want. The party is acting in the billionaires’ interests. The research has been done. This is fact. I know blue MAGA can’t handle facts, but you really need to get this fact into your worldview if you’re going to be effective.

In the general [election] vote for whoever isn’t a fascist

The Democrats are the moderate wing of the fascist movement because America is a fascist project. Everything the Nazis did they learned from the Western imperial powers. The Nazis studied American apartheid. They modeled their plans for the Slavs after the USA’s treatment of Indians (which is still happening right now). They modeled their propaganda on our propaganda.

Our cities and towns, our water, our suburban sprawl, our uranium mines, our prisons are all reminders of what fascism does when it wins. It builds on stolen land, it structuralizes the violent oppression, and it creates genteel social aesthetics to cover it over. The Democrats are the genteel social aesthetics.

Ruth Bader Ginsberg showed us this when she rules against a tribe and as precedent she relied on the Doctrine of Discovery, a papal bull that the Europeans used to kill and enslave 10s of millions of indigenous people. It’s very difficult to imagine something more clearly damning than SCOTUS affirming that Indians didn’t have the right to do something TODAY on the basis of the Doctrine of Discovery. She even said that the reason it was important to affirm is because the entire country relied on this for its legal basis to continue existing.

Democrats and Republicans alike were into ice pick lobotomies for women. Democrats and Republicans alike were into eugenics. Democrats and Republicans alike have a long dark history, because it’s not about both parties being the same, it’s about both parties being adminstrators of the same empire.

It’s the empire that’s fascist. Not just one party. And the fact that you think you can solve this by getting off Twitter and getting your family off Twitter and voting really hard for the less obvious of two facist parties in a violent virulent fascist country is proof that the PR strategy of the Democrats is working exactly as it’s intended.

The country these two parties administer integrated fascists directly into the country’s administration. It supported fascists, and still supports fascists abroad. It depends fascism’s right to organize, to recruit in public, to participate in elections, to participate in governments.

Responsible countries purge fascists. The US does not purge fascists. It purges communists. Anti-communism being a core tenet of fascism, the connection is clear.

But of course. I can’t convince blue MAGA any more than I can convince MAGA. Both groups are completely impervious to facts, history, and reality.

That’s not how the Republican party went further right. They went further right because their previous right rhetoric and aesthetic laster long enough for the economy to continue to collapse and for their constituents to feel real economic pain. So, they had to go further right in order to rationalize the situation in the mind of their voters by blaming the erosion of traditional values even more. It’s a death spiral driven by economic realities, not voter ideology.

In the same way, the Democrats are losing because the voters want a solution to the economic problems but the only solution threatens their true constituency - the owning class. So the Democrats can’t be pulled further left because that would accelerate the erosion of the power of the elite. And the Republicans are forced to go further right to explain why their previous policies didn’t create the change that was needed. Thus, the entire elite, both Ds and Rs are dragged right, back into the original rationalizations for founding a nation in indigenous genocide and chattel slavery.

Voting D will never fix that. The proof is all throughout history. The Ds and the Rs collaborated to purge every leftists they could find in the country - twice. And they may very soon be doing it again, because this is what happens when unions get stronger, when resistance movements get stronger, and when solidarity movements get stronger.

China has been eliminating poverty for quite some time. In fact, over the last 70 years, China accounts for 80% or more of the entire global poverty alleviation gains. The US has created more poverty in that same time.

But also, the US has been racist, violent, colonialist, jingoistic, misogynistic, and white supremacist since it’s founding. You know those propaganda images DHS posts on Twitter? Those are from the US’s time of westward expansion. This isn’t new. What’s new is that we have given up on trying to hide it, which is something we did for for the last 70 years. But even in the 40s we had concretation camps, we had open racism in all of politics, we had the second largest Nazi group in the world.

And after WW2? Operation Paperclip? Operation Gladio? The US openly staffed NATO with Nazi officers. The US openly advocated for Nazi politicians to lead West Germany. There were literal Nazis running West German after the war.

And then of course the Korean War. The Vietnam War. The Irag wars. The Afghanistan war. The embargo against Cuba. The coup in Iran.

This is what the US is. Nixon banner heroin explicitly to imprison black people. We have slave labor producing billions of dollars in value annually. And we punish our prison slaves who don’t work by giving them solitary. All of that is massive gross human rights violations, things we’ve pretended to invade other countries for.

This is who we are. It’s not new.

Not a single word in the article even hints at psyops.

Probably not more than the society they are being assimilatrd into hating immigrants and their language and culture.

Sorry I didn’t realize you changed the subject so that you could steer the conversation towards absolving the USA of its centuries-long violent, racist, genocidal, jingoistic psychosis by blaming it on Russian psyops.

My bad.

Sorry. What thread do you think you’re on right now?

Oh, I see. You just added psyops to the thread by saying you think NATO isn’t good at psyops on a thread about cyber warfare.

Look, let’s just end the discussion. I don’t need people getting confused about which of us is the fool.

The citizen-farmer who ordered mass genocide, destruction of food sources, and stole 10s of thousands of acres of land for his own personal wealth? The president who called native Americans “beasts of prey” and who was given the epithet “town destroyer” and “devourer of villages” by the native people of the land?

That citizen-farmer?

You never said the word psyops in any of these comments. What the fuck?

If things have gotten worse in the last 15 years, I’m certain it is because of the state of the American psyche and not because of some foreign propaganda.

A, that’s not cyber warfare. That’s cyber propaganda. B, Americans don’t need foreign influence to be racist misogynist violent jingoistic bigots.