Consumer Reports’ latest used-car reliability leaderboard has some surprises.
The problem with jeep is the cost of parts and the long tradition of keeping even the smallest repairs from being easily done by the consumer. I have a fiat 500. Same company owns both brands but my car shares most components with European fiats. As a result I have one of the best pieces of software to diagnose my car. MultiscanECU will do everything I need including adding keys. All for under a hundred bucks one time buy. I have really good documentation because europe. You will get none of that with the jeep branded stellantis products. So its hard to maintain them.
Wow how shitty are Jeeps then?
My wife has a jeep. It’s 6 years old and it has already seen a total engine replacement, a center console screen replacement, and several electronics systems repairs. That thing is a piece of shit.
Very. Central head unit and climate controls are completely unresponsive 30% of the time. And their drivetrains are notoriously awful, regularly requiring replacement before 100,000mi.
Just my personal/family experience
Almost as bad as Teslas!
Let me put it this way… having a jeep for off-roading is like training for war in Call of Duty
The wording is confusing. Tesla is at the bottom, barely beating Jeep for last place
The article is a commentary on this report:
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/which-brands-make-the-best-used-cars-a2811658468/
This is not exactly the slam dunk it seems to be, since Consumer Reports mentions right in their article that Tesla added a bunch of new models in that time-frame, which would make issues way more likely. One of those models is much-reviled, seemingly the worst model to come out of any company in decades.
Consumer Reports also makes mention that the older models from Tesla are faring way better. Which is what usually happens.
People are way less likely to read the details, though, obviously. Clickbait works too well!
Statistics can be made to show whatever you want with the right amount of massaging. That’s what articles do with every sort of report. Especially when it concerns something they can take advantage of for click bait.
Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable. - Mark Twain
This is true, but I’d be hard pressed to both name a source that’s more reliable than CR, and or which didn’t also suffer from needing click income. CR actually doesn’t need to rely upon it as much as the usual due to their strong subscriber base (last I knew- it’s admittedly been quite a while since I saw anything about their finances).
I was actually referencing the linked article from The Driver, not CR. At least CR performed the original analysis. A third party article about that analysis will almost always be less accurate and just adds another layer for analysis to be made and obfuscated.
Holy shit, who would buy a used Tesla? I mean it’s already insane that someone drove it for several years without it bursting into flames, or killing the previous driver in some other fashion
Despite your over-the-top hyperbole, I’d consider one if I could control and/or cut it’s data connection to Tesla and have the batteries thoroughly checked first. For the millions sold, I’m not aware of any significant number of fires that weren’t caused by either accidents or other mishandling (I’m a well-trained defensive driver, so I’ve little concern for having an accident). Same with owner deaths - most have been due to overconfidence in the so-called “autopilot” that I personally know not to rely upon.
Since it’s used, I’m not giving Musk any money, but still getting what is usually a reasonably decent vehicle for relatively cheap due to Musk’s poor reputation. I only want the basics, unlike many others who get sucked into the promise of what I consider still too unproven tech.
It’s not actually that over the top, Tesla beats the Ford Pinto in percentage of fire-based deaths, a car most well known for catching fire.
control and/or cut it’s data connection to Tesla
To my knowledge you can’t, at least without a level of rewriting the car’s code that you’ll effectively be writing the whole car from scratch. Just buy a different brand, literally any other brand of electric car.
Since it’s used, I’m not giving Musk any money,
The moment you need any replacement parts you’re giving Musk money. Tesla does not provide repair parts to repair shops. I work at a repair shop, ask me how I know. If you call them and request a part they will tell you to bring the car to them and then hang up on you, so, hope your car never needs maintenance because it isn’t getting any outside of a Tesla shop.
Even if we could get parts we still refuse service on Teslas at my shop because they’re such a liability risk.
Why can’t we have EVs with a similar electromechanical complexity to golf carts? We don’t need fancy internet enabled tech, just the bare minimum controls and safety systems required to operate a car.
I think they definitely could, you just won’t get one from Tesla because that doesn’t match their brand image.
The Slate trucks seemed like something that was pursuing this idea.
Is that because they are the largest share of EVs? I hate Musk and Tesla too but EVs in general have fire risks that ICE cars don’t have due to the batteries. I think a more fair comparison would be Tesla vs. Other EVs rather than Tesla vs. all cars. EVs are worse than ICE cars if they catch fire because the giant lithium battery bank right under the passenger compartment and this is kind of true for any EV and not just Tesla.
You may be correct. Unfortunately all I can find are statistics about electric cars vs gas car fires. It is a known fact however that several Model S EV’s have caught fire while just sitting there parked, I haven’t heard of that from any other manufacturer but I haven’t heard all news there is to hear.
Because used EVs are super cheap due to people being afraid of battery longevity as if the batteries were thrashed like a cellphone’s.
Because most used EVs genuinely have significant range reductions as they age? Its not an invalid concern. A lot of used EVs available right now didnt have fantastic range to begin with. If it had 150 mile range brand new 5-7 years ago it wont be getting anywhere near that after tens of thousands of miles of usage, and will only get worse from there.
Nobody wants to take a loan on a car that will have sub 80 mile range before the loan is even paid
They’re not that bad. Sometimes it’s good to step outside and talk to people instead of getting all your news from social media designed to make you mad. Yeah Tesla has quality issues and safety problems, but a lot of people have them and are completely happy with them.
It’s party time at your local Jeep dealer !
