Holy shit, who would buy a used Tesla? I mean it’s already insane that someone drove it for several years without it bursting into flames, or killing the previous driver in some other fashion
Despite your over-the-top hyperbole, I’d consider one if I could control and/or cut it’s data connection to Tesla and have the batteries thoroughly checked first. For the millions sold, I’m not aware of any significant number of fires that weren’t caused by either accidents or other mishandling (I’m a well-trained defensive driver, so I’ve little concern for having an accident). Same with owner deaths - most have been due to overconfidence in the so-called “autopilot” that I personally know not to rely upon.
Since it’s used, I’m not giving Musk any money, but still getting what is usually a reasonably decent vehicle for relatively cheap due to Musk’s poor reputation. I only want the basics, unlike many others who get sucked into the promise of what I consider still too unproven tech.
To my knowledge you can’t, at least without a level of rewriting the car’s code that you’ll effectively be writing the whole car from scratch. Just buy a different brand, literally any other brand of electric car.
Since it’s used, I’m not giving Musk any money,
The moment you need any replacement parts you’re giving Musk money. Tesla does not provide repair parts to repair shops. I work at a repair shop, ask me how I know. If you call them and request a part they will tell you to bring the car to them and then hang up on you, so, hope your car never needs maintenance because it isn’t getting any outside of a Tesla shop.
Even if we could get parts we still refuse service on Teslas at my shop because they’re such a liability risk.
Why can’t we have EVs with a similar electromechanical complexity to golf carts? We don’t need fancy internet enabled tech, just the bare minimum controls and safety systems required to operate a car.
Is that because they are the largest share of EVs? I hate Musk and Tesla too but EVs in general have fire risks that ICE cars don’t have due to the batteries. I think a more fair comparison would be Tesla vs. Other EVs rather than Tesla vs. all cars. EVs are worse than ICE cars if they catch fire because the giant lithium battery bank right under the passenger compartment and this is kind of true for any EV and not just Tesla.
You may be correct. Unfortunately all I can find are statistics about electric cars vs gas car fires. It is a known fact however that several Model S EV’s have caught fire while just sitting there parked, I haven’t heard of that from any other manufacturer but I haven’t heard all news there is to hear.
Because most used EVs genuinely have significant range reductions as they age? Its not an invalid concern. A lot of used EVs available right now didnt have fantastic range to begin with. If it had 150 mile range brand new 5-7 years ago it wont be getting anywhere near that after tens of thousands of miles of usage, and will only get worse from there.
Nobody wants to take a loan on a car that will have sub 80 mile range before the loan is even paid
They’re not that bad. Sometimes it’s good to step outside and talk to people instead of getting all your news from social media designed to make you mad. Yeah Tesla has quality issues and safety problems, but a lot of people have them and are completely happy with them.
Holy shit, who would buy a used Tesla? I mean it’s already insane that someone drove it for several years without it bursting into flames, or killing the previous driver in some other fashion
Despite your over-the-top hyperbole, I’d consider one if I could control and/or cut it’s data connection to Tesla and have the batteries thoroughly checked first. For the millions sold, I’m not aware of any significant number of fires that weren’t caused by either accidents or other mishandling (I’m a well-trained defensive driver, so I’ve little concern for having an accident). Same with owner deaths - most have been due to overconfidence in the so-called “autopilot” that I personally know not to rely upon.
Since it’s used, I’m not giving Musk any money, but still getting what is usually a reasonably decent vehicle for relatively cheap due to Musk’s poor reputation. I only want the basics, unlike many others who get sucked into the promise of what I consider still too unproven tech.
It’s not actually that over the top, Tesla beats the Ford Pinto in percentage of fire-based deaths, a car most well known for catching fire.
To my knowledge you can’t, at least without a level of rewriting the car’s code that you’ll effectively be writing the whole car from scratch. Just buy a different brand, literally any other brand of electric car.
The moment you need any replacement parts you’re giving Musk money. Tesla does not provide repair parts to repair shops. I work at a repair shop, ask me how I know. If you call them and request a part they will tell you to bring the car to them and then hang up on you, so, hope your car never needs maintenance because it isn’t getting any outside of a Tesla shop.
Even if we could get parts we still refuse service on Teslas at my shop because they’re such a liability risk.
Why can’t we have EVs with a similar electromechanical complexity to golf carts? We don’t need fancy internet enabled tech, just the bare minimum controls and safety systems required to operate a car.
I think they definitely could, you just won’t get one from Tesla because that doesn’t match their brand image.
The Slate trucks seemed like something that was pursuing this idea.
Is that because they are the largest share of EVs? I hate Musk and Tesla too but EVs in general have fire risks that ICE cars don’t have due to the batteries. I think a more fair comparison would be Tesla vs. Other EVs rather than Tesla vs. all cars. EVs are worse than ICE cars if they catch fire because the giant lithium battery bank right under the passenger compartment and this is kind of true for any EV and not just Tesla.
You may be correct. Unfortunately all I can find are statistics about electric cars vs gas car fires. It is a known fact however that several Model S EV’s have caught fire while just sitting there parked, I haven’t heard of that from any other manufacturer but I haven’t heard all news there is to hear.
Because used EVs are super cheap due to people being afraid of battery longevity as if the batteries were thrashed like a cellphone’s.
Because most used EVs genuinely have significant range reductions as they age? Its not an invalid concern. A lot of used EVs available right now didnt have fantastic range to begin with. If it had 150 mile range brand new 5-7 years ago it wont be getting anywhere near that after tens of thousands of miles of usage, and will only get worse from there.
Nobody wants to take a loan on a car that will have sub 80 mile range before the loan is even paid
They’re not that bad. Sometimes it’s good to step outside and talk to people instead of getting all your news from social media designed to make you mad. Yeah Tesla has quality issues and safety problems, but a lot of people have them and are completely happy with them.