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  • The second factor is a factor just not a common one, which is why I listed it second. I’ve never personally seen a wiper motor die, but I have seen the transmissions break, and wiper blades that get torn and wiper arms get bent in (extremely) icy conditions. Your point about most drivers being distracted & driving like shit kinda makes it a bigger concern, since there’s no way distracted drivers would notice the additional wiper of a “'self-driving”’ camera has gone bad or gotten bent.

    I don’t disagree with you on the other points though. There are NO level 5 fully autonomous self-driving cars currently, only pretenders that give people who can’t pay attention a false sense of security.


  • I’m not on the production/manufacturing side so I could only speculate on the costs. The entire industry’s use of the windshield mounted cameras would suggest the costs are lower. Even at the ultra high end like Bently, where there’s plenty of profit margin to experiment with, they’re still using the windshield mounted cameras.

    The other factor to consider would be that the driver can very easily know when the windshield wipers aren’t working (an therefore ignore or deactivate suggested lane departure corrections), but a tiny wiper mounted above the roof would be impossible to see while driving.


  • Yes, a design decision initiated by Tesla and a trend the entire industry followed outside of a few autonomous taxis that have the lidar units on the roof.

    However, the alternative requires a separate lens cleaning system as the former just reuses the windshield wiper. So it does reduce the complexity somewhat.

    Or maybe I’m missing your point entirely?


  • Cort@lemmy.worldtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.worldPardon Me?
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    12 hours ago

    The cameras that track the lines on the road and other cars are mounted to the windshield. these windshields are more expensive because the camera brackets have to be precisely aligned and the glass (in that area) must be completely free of optical distortions. Both of those things raise the price of the windshield, and increase design complexity


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    14 hours ago

    You’re not technically wrong since they were just early to the party with driver assistance & Lane departure warning/avoidance systems, but since the USA made those types of systems mandatory for all cars in 2023, most vehicles 2023+ will now have a similar cost.